DS Forums

 
 

Ricky not happy about his lack of support


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 28-10-2009, 16:41
Smokeychan1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,286
And in the blog he does mention Tuffers, and it may just be badly written and ill thought out, but you could read a hell of a lot into what he says

Everyone has voted us through this far so i guess its only right i do my part and dont let them down,so bring on the pain,i wont let excuses get in the way. Big Phil had an opperation and danced that week,we all have problems so lets just get on with it,i didnt use it as an excuse
Very easy to read that as 'Phil used his op as an excuse, I, being wonderful, didn't.
It is easy to read it like that, especially when he adds -

Tess was really lovely to bring it up. She didnt have to but she wanted everyone to know i wasnt at full strength and bless her for that,she is just a really genuine person so thank you Tess.
Just so we all know HE didnt bring it up, HE didnt use it as an excuse
Smokeychan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 28-10-2009, 16:47
Tissy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Pembrokeshire.
Posts: 40,686
And in the blog he does mention Tuffers, and it may just be badly written and ill thought out, but you could read a hell of a lot into what he says



Very easy to read that as 'Phil used his op as an excuse, I, being wonderful, didn't.

May not be how he meant it, but very easy to read it that way.
I don`t think he meant anything detrimental to Tuffers tbf.
Tissy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 16:49
Tissy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Pembrokeshire.
Posts: 40,686
I'm glad he is not happy. Don't like him!
By most of the comments on this thread it looks like you`re not alone.
Tissy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 16:56
taxi_driving
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,058
Well he won't be out will he

Unbearable, as will the judges.
He might well be out in a dance off.
taxi_driving is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:04
Caramel Crunch
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,559
How does he know how (un)popular he is?

Has he seen the voting figures?

Anyway, he's got it all wrong. It's not so much about being an underdog, but the fact that the likes of Tuffers, Ricky G and Natalie Cassidy have personalities that appeal to many.

They are fun and endearing.


Spot on Sid
Caramel Crunch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:09
ESPIONdansant
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Somewhere in the UK
Posts: 6,493
I went off him when I saw his ruddy great gas-guzzler.

He doesn't run a furniture delivery business, does he? Who else needs a huge pick-up?

Admittedly I haven't seen the vehicles the others drive and I might think the better or worse of them if I did. But his pick-up and his somewhat self-absorbed blog put me off him. Fab dancer but ......not my cup of tea.
ESPIONdansant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:24
carol north
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,221
I'm probably wrong but I don't recall jade and Ian doing samba rolls - she got into position where it looked like they were going to do it but didn't. Same I thought for Laila and Anton with the cameraman whizzing around to make it look like a roll. Jo attempted one I think but it was terrible and Ricky did make a good attempt at the samba roll - the only one to do it properly.

I don't really understand the criticism about it being all about him. It's his personal blog - who else is it going to be about?

I'm fairly neutral on all the dancers and finding it really hard to figure out why everyone seems to dislike him and Nat so much. Seems all fairly irrational to me.
Totally agree with you - it was his own personal blog so of course it would be how he did on Saturday night.

As for Tess mentioning his injury and oh how he got the sympathy - people forget of course that Tess mentioned Ricky G having the Flue the week before but thats OK!!

As for your post not understanding the dislike for him - well it has been like that from day one as soon as they appeared. Think if everyone was honest they would have been thrilled if Ricky had been dancing with their favourite Pro as one poster said on another thread - every lady Pro would have wanted Ricky and every Pro man Alli.

As for people assuming he is not popular just because those on DS do not how on earth do you know if the viewers do or not and as I said before I was surprised to see the support Ricky and Natalie have on the BBC boards.

I am one of those strange people who vote for the best dancer and that is Ricky and Alli.
carol north is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:24
Shappy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: By the window
Posts: 14,154
The reasons people give for disliking Ricky really make me laugh: his car, his feet, his blog. What next - the colour of his socks? His fingernails?

Shappy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:37
valkay
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15,280
I'm suprised he hasn't blamed Racism yet, or is he saving that for when he doesn't win??
valkay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:43
Jan2555*GG*
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,922
The reasons people give for disliking Ricky really make me laugh: his car, his feet, his blog. What next - the colour of his socks? His fingernails?

Why are the colour of his socks vile and his fingernails dirty well thats another reason in my book then
Jan2555*GG* is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:46
Agent Krycek
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Stalking David and Neal
Posts: 38,045
I don`t think he meant anything detrimental to Tuffers tbf.
No, probably didn't, but it's very easy to read it that way, so perhaps he shouldn't be quite so keen to press the send button when he blogs, and maybe get someone else to read it over first. TBH, the whole blog came across as a bit whingey and just annoying.

BTW, not planning on voting for anyone this year, I am Switzerland on the whole thing at the moment
Agent Krycek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 17:47
Smokeychan1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,286
The reasons people give for disliking Ricky really make me laugh: his car, his feet, his blog. What next - the colour of his socks? His fingernails?

I said his feet were ugly and while it is hard to ignore that when he is dancing, I didnt say I didnt like him because of his feet.

I also see nothing wrong in being competitive. But let's not confuse Ricky's cavalier stab in the back attitude toward his fellow celebs as being competitive. A true competitor wins (or loses) on their own merit, not by attempting to discredit their competition.

If Ricky wants to impress the audience at home, he needs to work harder to let his feet do the talking instead of his mouth.
Smokeychan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 18:02
Apricot
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,179
Ricky does annoy me, and guiltily, I can say there is no rational reason for this. It annoyed me that he was so good from day one - what's the point of a competition when one contestant is already booked a place in the final? His partner Nat also got on my nerves, that big grin, the assurdness that she had a star. As I said, it's all very irrational!

I do sympathise with Ricky fans this year though - I supported Emma Bunton the year she was on, and the backlash against her on here was ferocious. One couldn't make a pro-Emma comment without being labelled a "bunny" and mocked. So stay strong Ricky fans!

One thing I must note, how can anyone who spent 4 years reading undergraduate law at a top university have such awful grammar and punctuation?
Words of comfort Shappy like manna from heaven in the desert - and you don't even like him

I found wanting Tom to win bad enough on here last year but nothing compares to this flak.

Still that's what makes it the programme we know and love (note to self - support someone less out there next year)
Apricot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 18:10
jtnorth
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,491
Well, Jade, Jo and Laila appear to me to do samba rolls - if there is something in the feet that stops them counting then I acknowledge I'm not a dancer and well done you for seeing their feet with the way the camera moves. (After watching those and Ricky's I couldn't work up the energy to rewatch Phil's and Craig's as well so I can't say about theirs - I don't enjoy the samba at the best of times.) Ricky is specifically criticising the other dancers for not doing samba rolls, not for how well they do them. I rewatched them to try and see a good interpretation of what he says in the blog because, while not a fan, I don't want to dislike him, but I can't see any explanation for it other than that he's wrong.

[OT - rewatching, I can't tell you how depressing I find it that - to me - Jade is so clearly the most of fun of them by a mile and she's the one that ends up in the final 2. Does make me impatient with Ricky feeling sorry for himself. If he ends up in the last 2 he can complain all he likes, rightly, but until then... I don't think he will end up in the final 2 any time soon, btw.]
jtnorth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 18:15
carol north
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,221
Words of comfort Shappy like manna from heaven in the desert - and you don't even like him

I found wanting Tom to win bad enough on here last year but nothing compares to this flak.

Still that's what makes it the programme we know and love (note to self - support someone less out there next year)
Excellent post thank you!!
carol north is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 18:17
Abbasolutely 40
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,697
The reasons people give for disliking Ricky really make me laugh: his car, his feet, his blog. What next - the colour of his socks? His fingernails?


I dont dislike the man because of his feet .Its his dancing I dislike becuase of his feet , they are careless and not elegant .

Maybe if you look back that is what people are saying

I personally am not keen on Ricky as a competitor becuase of his attitude and now because of his discrediting others , Not a nice trait and not doing him any favours at all
Abbasolutely 40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 18:17
zankoku87
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lancaster
Posts: 5,642
Well, Jade, Jo and Laila appear to me to do samba rolls - if there is something in the feet that stops them counting then I acknowledge I'm not a dancer and well done you for seeing their feet with the way the camera moves. (After watching those and Ricky's I couldn't work up the energy to rewatch Phil's and Craig's as well so I can't say about theirs - I don't enjoy the samba at the best of times.) Ricky is specifically criticising the other dancers for not doing samba rolls, not for how well they do them. I rewatched them to try and see a good interpretation of what he says in the blog because, while not a fan, I don't want to dislike him, but I can't see any explanation for it other than that he's wrong.

[OT - rewatching, I can't tell you how depressing I find it that - to me - Jade is so clearly the most of fun of them by a mile and she's the one that ends up in the final 2. Does make me impatient with Ricky feeling sorry for himself. If he ends up in the last 2 he can complain all he likes, rightly, but until then... I don't think he will end up in the final 2 any time soon, btw.]
I agree with all of this - particularly about Jade. Oh well...
zankoku87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 21:30
fatskia
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,563
Karen Hardy wrote:-

There was high praise for Ricky Whittle, Zoe Lucker and Ali Bastian this weekend – who’s your favourite celeb to win the competition?
“My favourite is clearly Ricky Whittle. I know what the nation is like and we all love an underdog, but he’s just so far out there! From a quality and technical point of view he’s just blowing everyone out of the competition. The connections between him and his dance partner Natalie are brilliant. He’s so far ahead from a quality of dance point of view, then absolutely – he’s my favourite by far.

“But there’s still a long way to go – we’re in week six, we’ve got another 10 weeks to go so all things could change. It’s tough both physically and mentally so we’ll have to see who can hold their game.”

I wish Karen would give a bit of insight as to why she thinks Ricky is so far ahead. I accept her opinion because she knows much more about it than I do, but I cant see Ricky's Samba being a huge amount better than Jade's - infact, I thought Jade's was more difficult.


I did agree with Natalie's music choice (I suggested it in the 'What music?' thread)
fatskia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 21:51
Chris1964
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,020
One of the niggly problems about SCD this year is the ridiculously short period of voting that the combined show allows for. Personally I think its causing the show to disconnect from its audience and make the outcome less of an event.
Ive voted on an off over the years and this is the first year that I have not found the line to be engaged.
Chris1964 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 21:54
sugartingles
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 733
I'm probably wrong but I don't recall jade and Ian doing samba rolls - she got into position where it looked like they were going to do it but didn't. Same I thought for Laila and Anton with the cameraman whizzing around to make it look like a roll. Jo attempted one I think but it was terrible and Ricky did make a good attempt at the samba roll - the only one to do it properly.
Yes, but the point isn't whether or not the rolls were a *good* attempt - in his blog, he says "we were the only ones to attempt the samba rolls" - and he's just wrong on that score, sorry. Even if you want to evaluate the quality of the rolls, there is no question that other couples made THE ATTEMPT. Jade, Laila - even Jo had an (admittedly sub-par) attempt at them. It's not really the standard of the rolls that's up for debate. It's the attempt.

It's the fact that he believes he is doing something nobody else is doing - and drawing attention to it - that is going to put a lot of people off Ricky, I feel, and which, I think, is going to be his downfall later in the competition.

Good luck to him, I think he has genuine raw talent - but he isn't the most *entertaining* dancer IMO. As to whether or not he is 'popular' in terms of votes, only time will tell.

But he has some serious shortcomings off the dance floor (and a few on, btw) and (like it or not) he is coming over as arrogant and conceited at a crucial time in the series when the real 'journey' people are demonstrating more likable qualities that will endear them more with the GP.

I'm not saying it's right, but it's ruddy important, and he ignores that at his peril.
sugartingles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 22:04
cassieconvinced
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,900
I'm with Sid on this whole discussion. How does he know he doesn't have public support? That's what I'd dearly like to know.
cassieconvinced is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 22:06
cymrugirl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,304
jtnorth - I am absolutely no expert and it does make it harder to see the footwork with the jerky camera shots but I think the dead giveaway to them not being samba rolls is the fact that both girls are fairly stationary. Even with one samba roll, they should have travelled. I don't think Ricky is lying is his blog - I think he is misinterpreting what is being said. The samba roll being a prime example. Jo attempted a more 'basic' samba roll - ones that they will teach you when you start learning the samba and is on the bronze syllabus. The one Ricky attempted is known as the more advanced samba roll (shadow position) and I think this is where he's getting the terminology mixed up. The more advanced one is the flashier samba roll and the way I saw it, he was the only one to attempt this roll. But my samba knowledge is pretty rusty so everything I'm saying could be wrong!

I think the fleckerl remark was perhaps to do with the fact he was the only one to attempt it in both directions as Jade did do one in her routine.

I didn't find his remarks particularly disparaging but I think I'm very much in the minority on that one!
cymrugirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 22:06
mintchocchip
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,555
I'm with Sid on this whole discussion. How does he know he doesn't have public support? That's what I'd dearly like to know.
Yeah I'm confused too, he seems popular enough outside the forum(s) to me (then again for each contestant I know at least one person outside the forums that's supporting them). And he has quite a lot of support on the forums too
mintchocchip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 22:09
mintchocchip
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,555
DOuble post sorry.
mintchocchip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2009, 22:10
cymrugirl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,304
Yes, but the point isn't whether or not the rolls were a *good* attempt - in his blog, he says "we were the only ones to attempt the samba rolls" - and he's just wrong on that score, sorry. Even if you want to evaluate the quality of the rolls, there is no question that other couples made THE ATTEMPT. Jade, Laila - even Jo had an (admittedly sub-par) attempt at them. It's not really the standard of the rolls that's up for debate. It's the attempt.

It's the fact that he believes he is doing something nobody else is doing - and drawing attention to it - that is going to put a lot of people off Ricky, I feel, and which, I think, is going to be his downfall later in the competition.
Sorry Sugartingles - have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think either Jade nor Laila attempted a Samba roll and like in my previous post, I think he is just getting the terminology mixed up. I've looked at the clips over and over and I'm still not convinced Jade and Laila were trying to do samba rolls. They certainly looked like they were preparing to go into them but never actually did so it's not about the quality of the rolls - to me they never did them
cymrugirl is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 15:10.