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*Confidential*
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Keiō Line:
“I'm sorry OscarsMum, but I cannot in good conscious support a campaign that seeks to remove the right of PEOPLE to sell animals . It is not for the government to dictate what private individuals can and cannot sell (within prescribed boundaries, such as not endangering people).

It is clear that this campaign is being organised by an elite cat loving fascists organisation who want to corner this particular trade for themselves.

It is telling that they want the government to setup a vetting process so that an “independent” body can vet the suitability of cat owners and where they will be kept, with a (cough) small administrative charge. (HINT: no more house cats!). Three guesses of who would make up this independent body!



I also see one famous cat charity (not the RSPCA) have also supported the move, despite initially campaigning against it. There change of mind coincided with the suggestion that all cat purchases will have a surcharge contribution of 10% that goes towards the good work of the cat charities. While this has little chance of becoming law, it demonstrates that money and control are the key factors in play and not the welfare of cats”

All opinions are welcomed on the forum and you have stated why you dont wish to partake. That's fine. You've made your position clear and that's that really.

I don't think Oscarsmum has done anything other than simply ask if people wish to sign, the haven't made any demands for signatures, but have provided a link and it's upto the individual concerned whether they want to or not.

The thread isn't about debating the issue, as far as I understand, the thread was made to make people aware of the existence of the petition and of the deadline, if people want to sign, fine, if they don't, as you feel, that's equally fine.
Stroppy
04-11-2009
I agree Confidential. Very tactfully put.
Keiō Line
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by *Confidential*:
“All opinions are welcomed on the forum and you have stated why you dont wish to partake. That's fine. You've made your position clear and that's that really. ”

Yes, but as it was intepreted as an argument, I wish I hadn't. Still I think we are cool about it.

Originally Posted by *Confidential*:
“I don't think Oscarsmum has done anything other than simply ask if people wish to sign, the haven't made any demands for signatures, but have provided a link and it's upto the individual concerned whether they want to or not.”

I agree.

Originally Posted by *Confidential*:
“The thread isn't about debating the issue, as far as I understand, the thread was made to make people aware of the existence of the petition and of the deadline, if people want to sign, fine, if they don't, as you feel, that's equally fine.”

Sorry but I do not agree. As I said above, with hindsight I would not have made the post (becuase of the reaction). Without hindsight, I was right to make the post. If you post support for a petition, you can not expect people not to post if they object to it, or the people sponsoring it.

Perhaps a DS mod could clarify the issue? I understand that in some "pro" and "appreciation" threads posting opposite views is seen as antagonism, but I did not think this was one of those threads.
*Confidential*
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by Keiō Line:
“Yes, but as it was intepreted as an argument, I wish I hadn't. Still I think we are cool about it.


I agree.


Sorry but I do not agree. As I said above, with hindsight I would not have made the post (becuase of the reaction). Without hindsight, I was right to make the post. If you post support for a petition, you can not expect people not to post if they object to it, or the people sponsoring it.

Perhaps a DS mod could clarify the issue? I understand that in some "pro" and "appreciation" threads posting opposite views is seen as antagonism, but I did not think this was one of those threads.”

And that's it in a nutshell. We don't agree.
OscarsMum
05-11-2009
[quote=Keiō Line;36463673]Yes, but as it was intepreted as an argument, I wish I hadn't. Still I think we are cool about it./QUOTE]

Your original post wasn't interpreted as an argument but undoubtedly would have become one had I engaged with you further. It was your opinion (which you are entitled to) but it was based on assumptions. You seem to be under the impression this petition was set up by *some elite cat loving fascists organisation who want to corner this particular trade for themselves. * That is simply not true. The fact that that it isn't true throws into question the rest of your comments.





Originally Posted by Keiō Line:
“Sorry but I do not agree. As I said above, with hindsight I would not have made the post (becuase of the reaction). Without hindsight, I was right to make the post. If you post support for a petition, you can not expect people not to post if they object to it, or the people sponsoring it.
Perhaps a DS mod could clarify the issue? I understand that in some "pro" and "appreciation" threads posting opposite views is seen as antagonism, but I did not think this was one of those threads.”

Who exactly are you assuming is sponsoring this petition?
I would imagine it has the support of several cat charities but sponsoring it???
Please clarify what you are saying and back it up with proof.
OscarsMum
05-11-2009
Bump!
RuthStar
06-11-2009
Signed
OscarsMum
07-11-2009
Originally Posted by RuthStar:
“Signed ”

Thanks Ruth
OscarsMum
09-11-2009
Bump!
OscarsMum
15-11-2009
Bumping for more signatures
OscarsMum
21-11-2009
Bump!
OscarsMum
29-11-2009
966 signatures so far

Well done everyone. Lets see if we can push it over the 1000 mark


Message for Keio Line ~
I have no wish to get into any kind of dialogue with you either on the board or via PM.
However to answer your points I don't think I am endlessly resurrecting a dead thread...merely giving users who don't log in daily a chance to see and sign up to an important petition.
I'm sorry if you find it annoying but I think the good it could do must surely outweigh your slight irritation?
I know you don't agree with the petition and you've made your views very clear, even if you were misinformed about much of it, however there are many others who I'm sure do agree with the petition and would like the opportunity to sign it.
You mentioned previously in this thread that you would endeavour to stay out of my way.
Please do because quite frankly I'm starting to feel slightly harrassed by you.
If you have a problem with either me or my thread please feel free to report it to the Mods.
Lippincote
29-11-2009
Oscar's mum, without in any way agreeing with the previous poster ..... on the 28 Oct when you started this thread, you said there were "only 6 days left to sign" the petition, so it does look like you are resurrecting a dead thread. (I haven't signed - I completely agree with the idea, but doubt the effectiveness of online petitions.)
Keiō Line
29-11-2009
Has a post of mine been deleted?
OscarsMum
02-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“Oscar's mum, without in any way agreeing with the previous poster ..... on the 28 Oct when you started this thread, you said there were "only 6 days left to sign" the petition, so it does look like you are resurrecting a dead thread. (I haven't signed - I completely agree with the idea, but doubt the effectiveness of online petitions.)”

Hi Lippy,
Yes, when I started the thread there were only 6 days left. However because of a glitch with the confirmation emails not being sent out this was extended literally a day or two before the deadline.
It's entirely your choice whether to sign or not but I'm glad you agree with the idea
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