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Old 21-06-2014, 14:38
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I've only just realised how old this thread is. I used to love The Kinks until they released Apeman, which I thought was a horrible song that made a mockery of all their previous good work. It was if it was written purely as an excuse to wear gorilla costumes on TOTP.

Going back to another point, I think that playing Days at a funeral would be just about unbearable.

I don't know where it originated from, but I have a track downloaded from somewhere of Waterloo Sunset being sung as a duet between Ray Davies and Damon Albarn.

I also share the view that half of the threads in the so-called Music forum have very little to do with music at all and really ought to be in Showbiz. Perhaps there ought to be a separate Pap Music forum in which to lump together all of this fly-by-night stuff that's manufactured by producers rather than musicians.
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Old 21-06-2014, 16:12
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No...... APEMAN was a brilliant inventive song

Ray lost it about th time of Cum Dancing... total crap song

but he had a good run

Still cant decide whos the greatest songwriter
... Paul Mac or Ray ?
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Old 21-06-2014, 18:02
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Happy big 7-0, Raymond. You genius.

From Face to Face to Lola versus Powerman...I think the Kinks were right up there with The Beatles. Village Green...is a wonderful album, but Arthur....is my all-time favourite. I think it's their absolute masterpiece. Or should I say "finest hour."
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Old 22-06-2014, 08:49
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No...... APEMAN was a brilliant inventive song

Ray lost it about th time of Cum Dancing... total crap song

but he had a good run

Still cant decide whos the greatest songwriter
... Paul Mac or Ray ?
Can't agree. Come Dancing was a marvellous song both lyrically and musically. Ray Davies is, in my opinion, the greatest of British songwriters-even though I loved Lennon and McCartney.
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Old 22-06-2014, 09:38
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No...... APEMAN was a brilliant inventive song
You have to be joking... surely?

I think Ray Davies actually admitted it was a cynical piss-take of the type of song that gets on Top Of The Pops. I detest it so much that I have to switch it off as soon as it comes on the radio.
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Old 22-06-2014, 14:54
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Was nt Desmond Morris book... Naked Ape.... out in
paperback selling millions ?
Maybe that book inspired Ray ?
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Old 22-06-2014, 15:14
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Was nt Desmond Morris book... Naked Ape.... out in
paperback selling millions ?
Maybe that book inspired Ray ?
Very likely. It was released in 1967. I like the song. Fits in nicely with Lola v Powerman's themes of disillusionment with the record industry and yearning for freedom. If I had to choose a rather cynical attempt at writing a hit, I'd plump for Plastic Man, which is bordering on self parody. No, it IS self parody. Think Ray's admitted as much himself!
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Old 22-06-2014, 15:48
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come on .... Ray is famous for his humour and novelty songs.... Las t of the Steam power trains...
Ape man..... Dedicated follower of fashion etc

The Beatles were knocking out lots of novelty songs in the 60s too but Ray probably stuck at it more than most .

Good to see that Ray is hale and hearty and still doing concert tours... wot a guy !

(thought I heard a rumour of Ray and Dave getting back together to do something too ! )
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Old 22-06-2014, 16:03
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Ray Davies is a legend of Rock and Roll and has
achieved iconic status around the world for his
brilliant songs and lyrics.

He hit the scene with the Kinks not too long after the
Beatles and with songs like
'You really got me'
'Waterloo Sunset' and 'Lazy Sunday Afternoon,'
he helped make the 60s into a special decade of pop music.

But not many people know that it could all so easily have never happened, a few more hours more left out in the cold
for the baby(Rays grandma ) and Ray might never even have been born !

Ray's mother's mother ..............was an unwanted baby and she
was abandonned on a doorstep..... left out in the cold and rain !
But luckily the baby was found, taken pity on, and given a second chance in life..

When she grew up, she met a guy and got married
but her husband's well to do family were horrified that their son had married an orphan girl with no family history.

They promptly cut him off from the family.

The course of true love never runs smoothly but the young couple must have been happy together, because they went on to have 21 children !!
One of those children was Ray's mother !

So whoever found that baby on the doorstep and saved
it's young life, never knew it but they also saved some of
the finest pop music ever written !


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Old 22-06-2014, 16:05
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come on .... Ray is famous for his humour and novelty songs.... Las t of the Steam power trains...
Ape man..... Dedicated follower of fashion etc

The Beatles were knocking out lots of novelty songs in the 60s too but Ray probably stuck at it more than most .

Good to see that Ray is hale and hearty and still doing concert tours... wot a guy !

(thought I heard a rumour of Ray and Dave getting back together to do something too ! )
Yeah, of course. But those songs are good.

I think because Village Green had sold so poorly (and I know that's ridiculous) they were looking for a 'banker' to restore their profile, but I'm afraid I think Plastic Man was a cynical rehash of Dedicated Follower...mixed with a bit of, say, Well Respected Man. Those songs are imperishable classics, but Plastic Man, um....isn't. IMO of course. And only judging by the generally wonderful standards of their other songs of the period.

I come to praise, not to bury the genius of Sir Ray.
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Old 23-06-2014, 00:49
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Ray Davies is a legend of Rock and Roll and has
achieved iconic status around the world for his
brilliant songs and lyrics.

He hit the scene with the Kinks not too long after the
Beatles and with songs like
'You really got me'
'Waterloo Sunset' and 'Lazy Sunday Afternoon,'
he helped make the 60s into a special decade of pop music.

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Lazy Sunday Afternoon is actually by The Small Faces, not The Kinks. I love The Kinks and Ray Davies is an amazing songwriter, I agree. So many brilliant songs, real classics and very influential. Actually so were the aforementioned Small Faces, another terrific 60's band.
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Old 23-06-2014, 03:03
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Lazing on a Sunny Afternoon..... in Summertime......!

( you must remember it ! )
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Old 23-06-2014, 09:48
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Lazing on a Sunny Afternoon..... in Summertime......!

( you must remember it ! )
Yes of course I know Sunny Afternoon but you said Lazy Sunday, which was a hit by The Small Faces so I thought you were talking about that song. Anyway, both songs are good!
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Old 23-06-2014, 10:10
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Yes of course I know Sunny Afternoon but you said Lazy Sunday, which was a hit by The Small Faces so I thought you were talking about that song. Anyway, both songs are good!
"Lazy Sunday Afternoon-ah...." Brillliant song. Love it when the chimes come in.

Small Faces were great, just think their albums weren't as consistent as The Kinks. Very few bands are though. . Ogden's Nut Gone Flake is an off the wall classic, though.
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Old 23-06-2014, 17:49
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Lazy Sunday Afternoon.... Lazing on a Sunny Afternoon....
Waterloo Sunset...... Hey Jude.....

all these classic songs of the 60s.....

But I bet most of the guys on this forum were nt even born when these songs hit the airwaves !
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:36
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The Kinks are one of the greatest singles acts of all time. Some days I think they might be THE best. Some of those albums ain't bad either. If they only did You Really Got Me, Sunny Afternoon or Waterloo Sunset they would be fondly remembered but from around 1964-1968 it was like Ray Davies (and Dave) had an endless supply of musical greatness seeping out of them!

Days, All Day and All of the Night, Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Set Me Free, Come On Now, I'm Not Like Everybody Else, Dead End Street, David Watts, Come On Now etc. etc.

I mean just listen to Till The End of The Day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIc-RnqjwWA

Those riffs, those harmonies. F*ckin' hell!

This much later version from the Jools Holland Show is brilliant too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-3gxWG2wI

God bless Ray Davies and The Kinks!

(I was born in 1994 for some proof of this music's staying power)

Edit: Come On Now is so underrated I wrote it down twice!
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Old 25-06-2014, 06:39
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holy crap ... born 1994 .... right at the start of the Spice Girls era ...... !

but hes got to go back to the 60s to find some "real " music !
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Old 21-06-2015, 11:20
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Ray Davies is 71 today.

Happy Birthday Ray.
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Old 26-06-2015, 01:39
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Happy belated birthday to Ray.
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Old 26-06-2015, 12:29
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I love that album to be its their monument, although they had such a huge canon of great songs, and they albums are great, some are quite patchy, some are downright horrendous, but Ray is one of the national heroes of Uk music, they've got a lot of great singles to their name and Shangri La is one of the best single ever made, a huge unrated single that deserves to acknowledged as the great lost single it is. as is the brilliant Village Green, the song and the album, buy it now its miles better than Abbey Road.
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:07
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Has anyone here seen the Kinks musical "Sunny Afternoon"?

I saw it a few months back and it was amazing. One great song after another and loads
of laughs to be had. The guys playing the Davies brothers were particularly good.
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Old 21-06-2016, 08:50
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Ray Davies is 72 today.

Happy Birthday Ray.
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Old 23-06-2016, 11:07
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Has anyone here seen the Kinks musical "Sunny Afternoon"?

I saw it a few months back and it was amazing. One great song after another and loads
of laughs to be had. The guys playing the Davies brothers were particularly good.
I have done - it was great, and having liked the Kinks before seeing the show I'm now obsessed with them. What genius! IMO Dave Davies is hugely underrated, you (mostly) just hear about Ray.
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Old 21-09-2016, 19:21
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Heads-up!

There will be a Ray Davies special at Christmas with radio presenter Mike Sweeney. Mike was speaking to Ray for over half an hour a few weeks ago.
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Old 22-09-2016, 04:39
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We had this yet? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMs5QwHmMc
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