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More respect should be given to Artists/Song Writers |
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LiL Wayne's verse in "Down" is almost perfect. Read it Carefully amazingly contructed
even if the sky is falling down like she ‘posed to be she gets down low for me down like her temperature cuz to me she zero degrees she cold, over freeze I got that girl from overseas now she’s my Miss America now can I be her soldier please I’m fighting for this girl on the battlefield of love don’t it look like baby cupid sending arrows from above don’t you ever leave the side of me and definitely not probably and honestly I’m down like the economy# Don't u think? ![]() I'm sorry, but those lyrics are drop-dead cringeworthy! 'and honestly I'm down like the economy' ![]() What's the next line? 'I'll buy you diamonds girl, and satin and lace, then when we're getting grimey you can sit on my face'?As someone posted above, good songwriters should get more credit - but when it's dross like this, perhaps it's best if they hire professionals in. |
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Linda Perry deserves a lot more credit. She did after all write Beautiful for Christina Aguilera, and helped both her and Pink to reassert themselves and to find a new, better and more comfortable sound for them.
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For me James Morrison is one if the best singer/songwriters out there.
Writes all his own songs and has a fantastic voice. Great songs such as Broken Strings, Wonderful World and You Give Me Something. Both his albums are fantastic filled with great songs. |
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Lil Wayne?!
![]() I'm sorry, but those lyrics are drop-dead cringeworthy! 'and honestly I'm down like the economy' ![]() What's the next line? 'I'll buy you diamonds girl, and satin and lace, then when we're getting grimey you can sit on my face'?As someone posted above, good songwriters should get more credit - but when it's dross like this, perhaps it's best if they hire professionals in. If you listen to RAp music you would know that lil wayne verse has to be one of the best of the YEAR! |
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Lil' Wayne had a decent album, but he's not topping any polls. That track won't be remembered in 10 years time, either...
I hope that Jay Sean's chart success allows him to hire a better publicist than you. |
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LOL u serious
If you listen to RAp music you would know that lil wayne verse has to be one of the best of the YEAR! Have a listen to this for some real lyrical quality in rap music... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY But, if you prefer Jay Sean et al, then good for you, that's your opinion - I'm just giving mine. |
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LOL u serious
If you listen to RAp music you would know that lil wayne verse has to be one of the best of the YEAR! ![]() i can see how someone who really loves what he does could think those lyrics are the "best of the year", but that's only your opinion, just because you think so doesn't make it fact. it could be turned around just as easily - if you listen to rap music predominantly, how do you know there aren't better lyrics out there in a song you haven't heard because they're of a different genre? |
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Plus his verse barely qualifies as the best on Jay Sean's album, never mind best of the year.
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Katy Perry wrote her entire debut album. Impressive.
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For me James Morrison is one if the best singer/songwriters out there.
Writes all his own songs and has a fantastic voice. Great songs such as Broken Strings, Wonderful World and You Give Me Something. Both his albums are fantastic filled with great songs.
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Katy Perry wrote her entire debut album. Impressive.
![]() Here is 6 No 1 songs Cathy Dennis wrote: 2000 "Never Had a Dream Come True" S Club 2001 "Can't Get You Out of My Head" Kylie Minogue 2002 "Anything Is Possible" Will Young 2004 "Toxic" Britney Spears 2007 "About You Now" Sugababes 2008 "I Kissed a Girl" Katy Perry Unfortunately the singer gets all the credit for her creation |
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Yes with a lot of help from Cathy Dennis
Here is 6 No 1 songs Cathy Dennis wrote: 2000 "Never Had a Dream Come True" S Club 2001 "Can't Get You Out of My Head" Kylie Minogue 2002 "Anything Is Possible" Will Young 2004 "Toxic" Britney Spears 2007 "About You Now" Sugababes 2008 "I Kissed a Girl" Katy Perry Unfortunately the singer gets all the credit for her creation |
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i was just about to mention cathy dennis in reply to that too, but you've beaten me to it.
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it doesn't matter who writes it. it only matters how well its delivered. does anyone care that frank sinatra didn't write his songs? its like claiming that a concert pianist must write each orchestral piece he plays or have no "cred".
i don't care if you write your songs if you can't perform. cheryl cole of course can't do either...thats another thing all together. there are plenty of great song writers behind some artists. david foster, baby face, Diane Warren etc..they put out the hits. but they don't generally sing their own stuff and thats fine. its hard to argue their stuff would be better if they only kept it for themselves. btw the david foster hitman dvd/bluray is awesome
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it doesn't matter who writes it. it only matters how well its delivered. does anyone care that frank sinatra didn't write his songs? its like claiming that a concert pianist must write each orchestral piece he plays or have no "cred".
i don't care if you write your songs if you can't perform. cheryl cole of course can't do either...thats another thing all together. there are plenty of great song writers behind some artists. david foster, baby face, Diane Warren etc..they put out the hits. but they don't generally sing their own stuff and thats fine. its hard to argue their stuff would be better if they only kept it for themselves. btw the david foster hitman dvd/bluray is awesome ![]() I remember Britney winning best song at the MTV awards for "Baby One More Time" and after thanking everyone mom,dad,god,fans at the end she says "oh and thanks Max Martin for writing the song" |
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you don't have to worry about the writers. they get a cut regardless and a better one than the arist that might get screwed as you know. i think they get their cut before costs are considered which sometimes wipe out the singers cut. which is why many are trying to get even a partial writing credit for lyrics or whatever these days on their songs.
the writers get bank. don't worry about em. |
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you don't have to worry about the writers. they get a cut regardless and a better one than the arist that might get screwed as you know. i think they get their cut before costs are considered which sometimes wipe out the singers cut. which is why many are trying to get even a partial writing credit for lyrics or whatever these days on their songs.
the writers get bank. don't worry about em. |
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e.g. Ask the public who Greg Kurstin is and they'll probably have never heard of him.
Yes, writers and co-writers should get more recognition. I don't see a problem though with acts who dont write their own songs or only co-write. I don't expect actors to have written the screenplay for e.g. |
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Mariah carey is by far the best songwriter in music today.
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Mariah carey is by far the best songwriter in music today.
IMO one the the best lyricists has to be the very under rated Eddie Vedder - far better songs than i've ever heard from Mariah Carey. |
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The correct title of this thread should be:
More respect should be given to good Artists/Song Writers. Just because someone writes their own stuff does not give them instant credibility. |
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