I respect your opinion but I just think the bloke was knackered and couldn't be bothered with all the hoopla of what he probably went into thinking would be a bit of fun for a few weeks, and became a media monster that was more hassle than it was worth to him.

It did raise his profile though, as it does anyone that appears on it.


Lol! Who was not so lucky?

Well done James you were a gentleman and very gracious....

If we followed through the logic of your argument, then Arlene would be treated with the same contempt you say James should be. All recollection of the poison she shot in JS' direction seems to have mysteriously evaporated, however ... which makes me suspect some DS posters have longer memories and/or are less forgiving than the viewing public.

Yes, James may well be a mouth on legs at times, but I hardly think he can be held responsible for JS' ultimate decision to quit. Did he book that speaking tour on a cruise boat for JS as well, then?!

I am no massive fan of JJ but I think he has behaved very well this year and was extremely gracious.

Who called JS a dancing pig?

Oh yeah,....forgot

I agree. I supported him last year too when he spoke up on ITT. I got quite choked tonight when I saw how emotional he became on Saturday night. This series is very intense for the pros - their faces under the spotlight during 'the moment of truth' really shows the strain they are feeling this year.


It wasn't Arlene, it was Daily Mail journalist Ann Leslie, a 'friend' of JS who called him dancing pig in this article. I'm no fan of Arlene and she was far too outspoken last year about JS, but it wasn't her.

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[quote=BuddyBontheNet;36427903]I agree. I supported him last year too when he spoke up on ITT. I got quite choked tonight when I saw how emotional he became on Saturday night. This series is very intense for the pros - their faces under the spotlight during 'the moment of truth' really shows the strain they are feeling this year.



It wasn't Arlene, it was Daily Mail journalist Ann Leslie, a 'friend' of JS who called him dancing pig in this article. I'm no fan of Arlene and she was far too outspoken last year about JS, but it wasn't her.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much for that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would have (wrongly, it appears) attributed the 'dancing pig' comment to Arlene.

Let's see how many others join me in admitting the same

I agree with the rest of your post too.

Totally agree - I like the Jordans very much and hope James gets further next year.

I think James surprised many of us last night and well done to him. he was a real gent perhaps working with Zoe did the job and calmed him down a bit. They had a lovely working atmosphere perhaps others pairs should take note.

James should be still there and Olla out. Chris Hollins has in week whatever, improved 'so much' that he is now 'back to week 1'

Surely this speaks volumes

Yes it says he was better in week 1 than many of the contestants are in week 7.

Indeed he was!!

JJ (the other JJ)

I disliked James till ITT last night when he was such a sweetie. He had a great rapport with Zoe and even though that didn't always translate to their dances he was genuinely upset they were out.

I find some of the vitriol displayed on this particular forum really quite unpleasant at times and James Jordan seems to get a fair amount of the poison hurled in his direction.

I suppose the grace with which he handled himself both on Saturday and last night on ITT just doesn't fit in with the Mr Evil image some of you portray him as because he was so horrid to that nice Mr Sargeant.

From my observations no matter how good his choreography is or how graceful his partner dances, he will always be "over-marked" and rightly be eliminated so that some inept, but more "cuddly" couple get through in the view of a large section of this forum.

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The rant about JS occured on ITT last year. I don't know that enough of the general public would have seen it for it to have affected James's votes for this year. I know a lot of people on here hated him for it but as we've said before we're actually a very small percentage of the overall viewing public.

I'm consistently amazed at Bruce and Tess's inability to pronounce Ola's name. I mean, how long has she been there now?!

I've never liked James - too arrogant for me - but I was really impressed with his reaction to getting the boot. I like him more now.

[quote=gig-ge-dy;36380806]James won't keep quiet about this ... Wild stab in the dark here, but might that be one of the reasons he keeps exiting unexpectedly early with competent dancer celebs?

Now he's got some spare time, maybe he can sit down and analyse why so many opinions seem to have changed about his missus Ola this year. [b]Clue for him, it's not because she's got the best celeb dancer as a partner.QUOTE]

Okay, maybe Ola has not got the best celeb dancer but she has an extremely charming, funny and entertaining man as a partner and for that reason they are one of my favourite couples.

Exactly ... which was my point for James to sit down and think about. He's not dancing the World Championships here. He's taking part in a show designed to appeal and involve an audience of 8 million plus people who watch the show and its daily personality driven spin-off for more than pure clinical dancing ability. If you tell them after two weeks that the final is pretty much certain to be Ricky W, Ali and Jade or Laila, a big chunk of the audience would start tuning out. The judging system's designed so the judges through dance-offs can get two or those four, deemed by them, best technical dancers through to the final anyway, thanks to dance-off saves. But the public like the idea that if they take to somebody else, for whatever reason, more than the top four technical dancers, then they get the crumb of being able to get somebody the judges don't favour to the final too. And they do that by keeping their chosen one out of a dance-off altogether so the judges can't stop them. That's the show and why people who support someone other than the top 4 technical dancers keep watching. Shouldn't be rocket science for any pro dancer on the show to work out. At least two of the top 4 technical dancers will always make a final ... if folks prefer somebody other than the remaining two top 4, some 'personality' candidate will get the third spot thanks to the public vote.

Judging by his appearance on ITT last night, James either began to work out for himself finally that that's what the show he signed up for entails ... or he realised that arguing it shouldn't work like that will prevent his own missus from having a chance to reach this year's final. Cos she sure ain't gonna get there unless folks at home keep Chris/Ola from a dance-off against 3 or 4 other couples the judges like scoring better.

Either way, coming to terms with what the entertainment show he signed up for is about ought to give him a chance to do better at it in future.

I don't agree with him but I understand why he got frustrated and angry. This year the penny has dropped and he's realised that this the nature of the beast and it won't change I think it helps like it did with Gaby that his Mrs is one of those helped by the bottom of the table voters (ok not the absolute bottom but Cola were second bottom apart from Craig/Ricky G.)

hes being nice so his image does not tarnish Ola's chances. ONce shes out he will have a good moan!

I agree with this and the harassment of his wife I don't think helped either - it's the one time on ITT he seemed angry when he was talking about people phoning up and haranging his Mrs - lets face it a man whose been told to shove off by Thatcher isn't going to be bothered what a bunch of dance judges say about him but his wife is a different story.

I also agree with people who think that James has been unfairly demonised too and last night has shown he isn't stupid and has learnt from the experience.

I think the not so lucky one was Arlene.

Argee with this too although I think last night proved he's getting that and doing something about it.

John S did indeed have a cruise booked. He was also amazed to find the press hanging about his home taking snap shots. He felt bad when Heather and Brian went and, when James left with Cherie - loudly reminding everyone it was a DANCE contest, he bit the bullet and left.

James was the only one to be unkind at this decision - a complete turn around from his comments 48 hours earlier. Of course, if he and Cherie had been reinstated to keep up the numbers - as I reckon they should have been - I am sure Mr J would have been applauding John's brave decision.

He shot himself in the foot by speaking bluntly - as if John had renaged on a promise to donate a kidney to a curly haired orphan or something! It's an entertainment show - all the other pro dancers were gracious on camera - regardless of what they were really thinking - James should have followed their lead, IMO.

Claudia was STUNNED by his comments.

And, seeing how the great British public vote, I think John and Kristina WOULD have made the final - and possibly won. Which would have devalued the training and improvement of everyone else in the show.

Well let's not forget that Arlene "I just want raw sex!" is no longer part of the show.....Although I was annoyed at the only female on the panel being dropped, her mouth ran away with her far too often and her comments were cringemaking - and unsuitable for a family show.

James was very nice on ITT and as I said earlier, when John stepped down - on the Monday - the BBC should have reinstated James and Cherie. I wonder if John assumed this would happen?

Some people felt James was a bit mean to Georgina who he danced with previously, but it is only is Sargeant remarks - said in the heat of the moment - that I remember.

But I never vote until the final anway!!!