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Old 31-10-2009, 21:00
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I think they are getting worse.
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Old 31-10-2009, 21:01
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I agree, I think a lot of performances suffered tonight because the routines didn't quite match the music.
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Old 31-10-2009, 21:02
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I agree it was particularly bad this evening

Anton really ballsed it up too with his VW song choice. A 10 could quite easily have been in sight with bearable music instead of whatever that was.
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Old 31-10-2009, 22:40
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I also thought Anton's choice of music was poor - and hindered the performance......I thought Vincent choose well though…
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Old 31-10-2009, 22:48
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I think they are getting worse.
I agree. Was it Anton's which sounded like a wobble-board? I disliked most of the music, so can't remember.
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Old 31-10-2009, 22:50
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I don't agree. I thought the music was good and some great dancing tonight.
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Old 31-10-2009, 22:52
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I thought the music was particularly bad tonight some of the worst I've heard, the dances and the music didn't go together at all.
Who chooses the music are the pros given a short list of what they can use ?
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Old 31-10-2009, 22:53
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I think they are getting worse.
You are quite right. I felt the song choices, in the main, were poor and the band and singers were worse than ever. If training is done to an original track then it must be quite disconcerting coming to the dress reshearsal and performance and hearing such poor quality. Anton's in particular was a poor choice.
Still it meant I tended to mute the sound and concentrate on the footwork when the cameras allowed.
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:02
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I thought the music choices tonight were worse than last week.
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:16
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Guess I'm in the minority but I thought that was a really good song choice for the VW

EDIT: although I think the singers massacred 'Love Sex Magic'
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:23
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I agree it was particularly bad this evening

Anton really ballsed it up too with his VW song choice. A 10 could quite easily have been in sight with bearable music instead of whatever that was.
That was so appalling i had to mute the sound to try and get the flavour of the waltz. How in heavens name did he expect Laila to get the timing, rhythm etc to learn the waltz with that abominable music choice. The girl deserves 4x10's for getting it right in spite of such c8ap music.
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:40
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That was so appalling i had to mute the sound to try and get the flavour of the waltz. How in heavens name did he expect Laila to get the timing, rhythm etc to learn the waltz with that abominable music choice. The girl deserves 4x10's for getting it right in spite of such c8ap music.
Anton's music choice, although strange, was actually in proper waltz timing unlike Flavia's who absolutely ruined that song by forcing into waltz timing.
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Old 31-10-2009, 23:58
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I couldn't feel any waltz time in Flavia's music. For an unmusical dancer like Craig that was tough. OK, the underlying 3/4 was there but it wasn't strongly accented and so slow!!! It's even harder to be convincing dancing slowly than fast - mistakes are more glaring and you really have to hold your lines.
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Old 01-11-2009, 00:28
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I couldn't feel any waltz time in Flavia's music. For an unmusical dancer like Craig that was tough. OK, the underlying 3/4 was there but it wasn't strongly accented and so slow!!! It's even harder to be convincing dancing slowly than fast - mistakes are more glaring and you really have to hold your lines.
Totally agree with you, don't know what she was thinking, there are so many songs she could have used with natural waltz rhythm. For somebody like Craig, who's struggled so badly with timing up to now, she really did him a disservice.
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Old 01-11-2009, 14:14
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Some awful choices tonight - Vincent's was very good as was Erin's - suited Ricky very well.
At this stage something memorable or even quirky is going to work as the series is beginning to flag a bit in many ways.

I feel that a lot of the dances are very 'safe' and lack an element of drama that makes the audience sit up and take notice.

It doesn't have to be 'gimmicky', just a little bit 'out of the ordinary' so that a more unusual interpretation could be made of it.

I think if Anton had chosen a 3/4 timing to Eric Clapton's 'Leyla' it would have been right on and the male singer would have made a great job of it.
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Old 01-11-2009, 14:19
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Does the professional get to choose the song, or are they given a list and then have the final choice ?

I thought Antons was a poor choice last night, pleased to see I was not the only one
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Old 01-11-2009, 14:36
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James on the Paul O'Grady Show last week said they give a
shortlist of songs and one is chosen from that list.

Then I suppose it depends on other pros' choices and whether songs have been done before etc.
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Old 01-11-2009, 14:55
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James on the Paul O'Grady Show last week said they give a
shortlist of songs and one is chosen from that list.

Then I suppose it depends on other pros' choices and whether songs have been done before etc.
At last! An honest answer from a pro.

I've been saying this on here for years.

The problem is the "half truths" told by several pros over time. In answer to the question "Who chooses the music?" They always answer "We do" but never add that it's from a list provided by the producer.

One contributor to this board posted five years ago that the music was the producer's choice. They said they'd read it in the first BBC SCD annual.

There were few recognised ballroom tunes played. Many of the choices I though had weak tempos, the most essential part of the music.
As Victor Sylvester used to say "Strict tempo."
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:00
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At last! An honest answer from a pro.

I've been saying this on here for years.

The problem is the "half truths" told by several pros over time. In answer to the question "Who chooses the music?" They always answer "We do" but never add that it's from a list provided by the producer.

One contributor to this board posted five years ago that the music was the producer's choice. They said they'd read it in the first BBC SCD annual.

There were few recognised ballroom tunes played. Many of the choices I though had weak tempos, the most essential part of the music.
As Victor Sylvester used to say "Strict tempo."
Sorry, I read that the exact opposite way to you, and in the same way as many pros have answered this year, including Brian more than once - the pro gives the producer a short list, and the producer makes the final choice. You seem to read it as the producer gives the pro a list and the pro makes the final choice?
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:05
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Sorry for any confusion --- In reply to make it clear, the Pro proffers a list of songs and dependent, I suppose, on other factors one is chosen (by whom I don't know). Will see if the POG show is viewable to see exactly what James said.
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:10
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Sorry for any confusion --- In reply to make it clear, the Pro proffers a list of songs and dependent, I suppose, on other factors one is chosen (by whom I don't know). Will see if the POG show is viewable to see exactly what James said.
This is what I understand to happen too. Brian has stated that this is the case several times this year, on twitter. Erin also very clearly said she'd picked the VW music for her and Ricky on ITT.
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:10
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I can see no reason why the producers shouldn't provide a list of music.
They will want to achieve a balance.
The other consideration is each piece of music will need the orchestrations written out or altered for each band member and singer and in a key of their choice. The music also has to be shortened to fit the length of the dance. All this takes time.

My argument is the choices are often dire in the first place.
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:58
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Just looked at the POG show at :

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/t...player/3005697

At around 29 mins in Paul O'Grady asks who chooses the music, Ian says we do - then James goes on to explain that the Pros give a list of 10 songs and then the BBC say you can choose one of these 3, so we do get quite a big decision in the music.
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