After tonight's farce surely it is time for the BBC to tell us the results of the public vote. At the moment they could put anyone they wish through regardless of phone ins.
In view of the fact that several phone in votes for the BBC have been faked in the past then openness now is of paramount importance.
To see good dancers go out whilst worse ones go through
is not right, regardless of how much begging and pleading from the celebs goes on.
BBC is a public funded body so we should be told what's happening with the votes.

Why would it help to see the vote.......it will just tell you what they and us already know.....the 5 couples at the bottom of the board got more votes than the 5 at the top.....simple as that it doesnt take rocket science to work that one out.

We've done this before.

The BBC will never reveal the number of votes. They consider it "sensitive information which could be of advantage to a competing network."

This is "BBC speak" for; "We don't want you to know that compared with the ratings, how so few people actually vote."

there is no sensible reason to keep the public vote secret so why does the BBC do it??

Check out the FAQ on the BBC Strictly site. They explain why they wont release the voting figures.

JJ

I don't believe the BBC would mess with the phone vote. It's just asking for a huge fine from OFCOM and a load of bad press, and why would they want to? They've got no interest in keeping in dancers who are unpopular- they won't pull in the viewers.

Don't they refuse to show it because they don't the numbers to have an effect upon the voting? Look at what happens when someone's unexpectedly in the bottom two - it's unusual for them to be in the dance-off once again the next week. Releasing the voting information would just see this effect strengthen.

They could simply reveal order of voting in order to keep the paying public happy .... it's not rocket science, is it?

But it wouldnt keep you happy because it would show that the public are voting for who THEY like and not who YOU like

They should release the details after the series has ended, like DOI do. It would show they having nothing to hide. Doubt they will do it though.

Explain, please

All I am saying is that the voting figures would just show what we already know that the people at the bottom of the leaderboard are getting more votes than the people at the top for whatever reason. As you said that they should reveal the numbers to keep the public happy but it wouldnt keep them happy because everyone is voting for who they want to vote for and it wont necessarily be what other people want.

On Joseph and also on Maria I think they announced which one in the sing off would have gone if it had been down to the public. I think that a similar thing would be fair on Strictly.

We have no idea what order they are in - and realistically RW could have topped both the judges & voters list.

So long as the actual figures weren't released, no-one would know the scale of variance in the public vote

No need to release the figures. It's not a general election.

This is the way SCD works. Ali and Zoe didn't get 'phone votes. I pay to watch TV so I think it's fair that I and the other millions have just as much say as Len and co.

They could of course show percentages, which would not reveal "sensitive information". But don't hold your breath, revealing the vote would deny them the opportunity to manipulate the result.

Does anyone realy believe that the beeb are not loving the "upsets"? It promotes the publicity for the show. They would also have loved it if Len had actually given Craig a clip round the ear tonight.

I was just going to post similar. If they are not going to show the numbers they should definitely show the percentages .

They should reveal the results at the end of the series. ITV do this so I don't see why the BBC can't.

At the end of the series would be interesting.

Honestly, why do people twist themselves in knots when they find themselves out of tune with the populace?

Knowing the figures won't provide any lightbulb moments, it won't help you understand why someone you would have preferred see stay received less public votes than someone you believe should have gone.

The only effect releasing figures would have, is to compound the fact that dancer X wasnt all that popular with the voting audience. I'm certainly not the keeper of the celeb's egos, but even I feel that to be an unnecessary humiliation.

nah I don't need to know - I believe the results, the bland ones are going first whether they are good dancers or not...

Why the conspiracy?

Isn't it fairly obvious that Chris, Ricky G and Tuffers particularly seem to be popular with the public?

I think this would be fair as it wouldn't necessarily sway the judges to one or the other. But then again, I then think that the couples in the dance off should have to perform 30 secs to a minute of another type of dance which the judges can compare them on the same dance espeically if they have done different disciplines in the main part of the show

If you want to see the dancers judged purely on ability then you have to eliminate the public vote and allow voting by judges only.

When you allow the public to vote then they will go for their favourite whether they are good or useless, look at last year.

Thats the conclusion all these shows are trying to avoid and whilst they avoid it their shows will die. You can't have a dancing show where effort and ability are not rewarded and anything but dancing ability keeps you in. The judges end up looking incredible, the winners are incredible and audiences drift away as its all pointlessly random, soon no one any good turns up as the show is harmful to your career and lots of people with gimicks or comedy acts do turning it nto Strictly Come Comic Dancing .

The problem with the public vote is that despite all the efforts to make it more responsible things are getting worse - time to do away with it before the final or to let the studio audience or someone else decide.