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Is Craig Kelly the 2009 John Sergeant
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wicker.man
01-11-2009
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictly...-underdog.html


He's a deluded fool. Bring back Arlene!

Nice photo btw Craig.
EmilyIRE
01-11-2009
Not really, unless you count staying in while other, better dancers are eliminated. I didn't like John Seargant but he was at least entertaining (for a while, it got old towards the end) and had a bit of personality. He also knew he wasn't the best dancer, although he did do a credible week 1 waltz. Craig seems to be labouring under the delusion that he can actually dance and is just boring.
fredster
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by Robert Romarin:
“My hunch is that it's playing the Blackpool card that's helping to keep him in more than anything...don't ask me why...and, if so, then it's a unique situation in the history of the show so far. I don't think he's much of a personality, I can't see any real comedy or other entertainment value to his dancing and I don't believe even the loony fringe voters have convinced themselves he's being 'bullied'.

Or 'no' in other words.”


It appears the whole of blackpool have been voting for him.
gibletjohn
01-11-2009
No. No personality or Fun...get rid.
Bhoy1888
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by Evilredzebra:
“I only really started watching properly last year so can't comment on previous series but I think the big difference is that John Sergeant didn't knock anybody out who was being touted as a potential winner. Ali was an early front-runner and the judges said tonight that Zoe could really challenge.

I know that superior dancers to John were eliminated before he stood down last year but I still don't think he survived in the competition at the expense of anybody who would have made the final based on their dance ability alone.
The only thing that Craig and John do have in common is that, in Week 7, they are the worst celebrity dancers left in the competition. I always found John's "appeal" for votes to be hugely self-deprecating and his performances laugh out loud entertaining (much like Todd Carty's one on Dancing on Ice when he went flying off backstage). Craig doesn't show any personality and his dancing is not remotely entertaining to watch. This is why I don't understand the BBC giving so much airtime to his endless "I want to get to Blackpool" crap. What will we have next week ... "I work in London so really want to get to the final?"”

I think Mr Jordan may disagree about that.He hated wasn't to impressed when himself and Cherie were put out
PrincessNidor
01-11-2009
I don't think we can compare Craig with John Sergeant.... Personally I think Craig is a slightly better dancer than John Sergeant, however he has a lot less style, wit or entertainment value.

I think the Judges made a mistake keeping him in over Linda.

Unless he really improves, I hope Craig goes this weekend.
carol north
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by BelgoLift:
“JS did not think he could dance, and he was also somewhat entertaining. There is a difference...”

How right you are!!
CaroUK
01-11-2009
Well up until last night, those who left (with possibly the exception of Martina in week 1) were all also rans anyway.

None of them had the potential to get to the final on ability personality or the needed combination of both. With the best will in the world, Zoe was never going to get much further as her bottom 2 place 2 weeks out of 3 showed that she didn't have the public support, and I don't think I was the only one who thought her Samba was selfconscious, slow and overrated by the judges.

Craig has had his story and hopefully those who were voting to get him to Blackpool as his birthday pressie will stop now.
Servalan
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“I don't think I was the only one who thought her Samba was selfconscious, slow and overrated by the judges.”

While I agree with the other points you make, I have to call you on this: 'Boogie Nights' is an uptempo disco track. Therefore not slow! If James had been smart he'd've taken a leaf out of Ian's book and picked a midtempo R&B track - he could have got a bit more samba content into it, as well ...
winenroses
01-11-2009
"I think what the judges are doing to me is a bit of tough love." Craig

See, this is the kind of thing which Craig sees, or says he sees, but most of us don't. Does anyone really think the judges are giving him 'tough love'?

He is either having us on or there is something wrong with his perception of reality.
MarkFan
01-11-2009
John was funny, sweet and very entertaining. Craig's just...well, beige.
wicker.man
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by MarkFan:
“John was funny, sweet and very entertaining. Craig's just...well, beige.”

and stiff.
currykev
01-11-2009
Craig did improve (just) enough to avoid the "steps to hell"
But don't concern yourselves.
He'll soon be visiting JS in the land of the no-hopers!
Mr Whittle's dance last night was sublime.
Greytop_1967
02-11-2009
"HUMPTY Dumpty" Strictly dancer Craig Kelly has vowed not to become this year's John Sergeant - despite Arlene Phillips saying he is one of the worst dancers she had ever seen.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0VfQgxmMa
Starpuss
02-11-2009
I didn't vote for John but I can understand why people did. He was entertaining and funny. I just cannot understand why anyone votes for Craig He is dull and delusional. What is entertaining in that?
tonydancer
02-11-2009
The real difference between Craig & JS is that JS had a huge lead in the public vote every week, even knocking Tom Chambers' vote into a cocked hat. Everyone around the show, including John, knew that he would make the semi final at least. He left to avoid weeks of nastiness.

This year we hear that Tuffers and Chris are the people's choice. So sooner or later, hopefully sooner, Craig will find himself in a dance-off. Bruno will then find it even harder to contain his delight than he did when voting off Jo.
Greytop_1967
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by Greytop_1967:
“"HUMPTY Dumpty" Strictly dancer Craig Kelly has vowed not to become this year's John Sergeant - despite Arlene Phillips saying he is one of the worst dancers she had ever seen.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz0VfQgxmMa”

JS I agree was loved and he was honest that he could not dance.

Craig is the weakest link still be voted in by the public but he thinks he can dance.

Time to go Blackpool or not.
FlaviaCacake
02-11-2009
JS was entertaining. He taunted the judges by reminding them of the voting rules, he flaunted his popularity while never claiming he had anything more than two left feet. Craig actaully thinks he can dance. It makes me cringe when backstage he insists on watching his performance again to see if it was really 'that bad'. If he's as good a dancer as he thinks then surely he can feel if the dance is good.

Also, as someone else has pointed out JS didnt knock out any potential finalist where as Craig as already done that. He's got to go soon or with the problems of the new voting system and Craig overstaying his welcome its going to make this years show a bit of a shambles.
beauty-1
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by skimpy_scampi:
“He's no JS that's for sure.

JS was the master of cult like "badness". He knew he was no good, but revelled in it
Fiona Phillips is up there too, but wasn't adept enough to carry off the showmanship of being rubbish.
Chris Parker, bless his cotton socks, knew he was bad and embraced it.

Craig is more akin to Andrew Castle.

Some celebs just plateau and no amount of training hours
in a week is going to change their dancing level.”

Andrew Castle at least brought warmth to the dance floor.
ESPIONdansant
02-11-2009
He is in the sense that he is garnering votes because people do not wish to hear him so thoroughly sl@gged off by the judges.
It is no good huffing and puffing (Bruno) and turning away from Craig in such a dismissive fashion and telling him that he can't dance in such dismissive and hostile tones and expecting viewers not to feel a little protective.
I haven't voted but I do think there are better ways of dealing with people. The lad seems to be trying very hard and doesn't deserve such negativity. I think it's courageous to carry on under those circumstances.

The silly judges (unless it's a cunning plan to stir up some kind of spurious controversy) alienated viewers last year and are repeating that mistake.

Bruno was most unpleasant. Unnecessarily so. Craig hasn't half JS's chutzpah but he is being treated like a leper. Now even I am sorry for him.
Romus
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by Greytop_1967:
“So Craig goes to Blackpool and another good dancer goes home.

Are we going down the 'John Sergeant ' route again.”

Yes. It's simply another tedious "public vote" fiasco.

Expect much of the same, week after week, until we have a final with those "elite" dancers whose marks are high enough to lift them above the "public" and those whom the public have pushed through but who don't deserve to be there.

thenetworkbabe
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by Greytop_1967:
“So Craig goes to Blackpool and another good dancer goes home.

Are we going down the 'John Sergeant ' route again.”

No its dumbed down JS. Craig is just trying to pretend he is being bullied by bad judges when they are actually being nicer but pointing out that he is hopeless. He is hopeless. JS had a few (very few) moments of humour, looked like a panto character and probably appealed to older folk who still could remember who he was. The blackpool argument is completely illogical but it may appeal to some and its being pushed by the BBC who are probably surprised anyone could believe it.

The whole show this year is dumbed down. Its got old reality TV characters doing well or at least OK in watered down versions of their previous runs in SCD or other shows.

Jade is getting support despite being a charisma light zone compared to Colin and Denise and a much weaker performer.

Phil has little ability and has none of the massive improvement of Darren or Mark but he's probably riding a similar big vote regardless of content. Being amiable, mature and sexually attractive to the voters gets you support on reality TV shows as he knows from winning IAC..- the show thats most based on audience appeal and least on what you do.

Ricky G is trying to be funny after the success of Todd from the same stable on DOI . Some people may actually think he is funny.

Craig as JS the victim fits the same bill.

Meanwhile Zoe has just rerun Cherie's story to the same arguments and with the same result and Ali may be rerunning Rachel with the same problems with those voters that resent attractive females or want another Billy Eliot or some hunk winning.

The only new character is the obvious winner in Ricky W and it remains to be seen if people go with that, the people near to him survive and challenge or the voters find some strange argument why the best dancer shouldn't win and someone much weaker should.
hopeless case
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by amelie74:
“Craig is no JS. John was smart, funny and not deluded about his dancing potential.

I really don't understand why people are voting to keep Craig in - he's a poor dancer and doesn't seem to have a personality!!”

I am loving Craig! His genuine bewilderment at the scores and comments has me rolling about.

I'm not voting for him though....I am just glad he is staying in.
sueh21
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by Starpuss:
“I didn't vote for John but I can understand why people did. He was entertaining and funny. I just cannot understand why anyone votes for Craig He is dull and delusional. What is entertaining in that?”


Maybe it's Flavia getting a huge sympathy vote?I just hope it is not a huge Blackpool based vote otherwise that means he will probably stay in at the expense of a better couple again this week.
Bhoy1888
02-11-2009
You all moan that Craig shouldn't be there cause he is the worst dancer but then in the same breath say you think JS was better because he was more entertaining and friendly etc

Either you want it to be about dance or popularity
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