HA did someone say that??

Ethan is wayy too over-hyped on this thread
.he was not that much more talented vocally than lloyd..
Lloyd was so much better than him both at auditions and judges house.

Joe has the most beautiful voice..best in the comp

But Lloyd shows no presence on stage at all.

Problem I have with Joe...I agree he has a good voice, but he grins through every song...nice to see he is a happy lad..but lyrics dont' always call for that, there is connection to the song....for me anyway.

Pathetic :yawn:

True but presence can be learned....

I agree with joe he smiles all the time, he seems to disregard the meaning of his songs.

The only ones who put "passion" into their songs are jamie and danyl

I clearly remember stacey/rikki smiling all the way through their very depressing songs

Yes, that is what has been disappointing this year. The lack of any correct or any emotion showed. When Danyl shows it...he gets criticised for it. But Joe grins through every song, regardless of what it is about.

People were deafened by Ethan's good looks, Lloyd has a better voice than him even. Duane was the best voice and should def have gone through, but come on now, Ethan?! lmao. His voice was so weak, it was barely even there.

I found the whole process odd to be honest.

Leaving aside the whole issue of this being a bad series all round (with some justification, but...) the boys actually could have been a decent category if Miss Thing could have been handed a pair of calipers to extract her head from her arse for all of five minutes.

I quite liked the very little I saw of Duane, a good soulful tone or so I heard for the five or so seconds I heard him. He may have been dreadful, but we'll never know I suppose.

I will go out on a limb here and say that even if that was Duanes best five seconds of the whole process, it was a five seconds light years ahead of that perpetually weeping Caledonian drag artist, who had all the range of a dysfunctional air rifle, and brought an emotional indifference to his songs akin to being kept waiting by the cheese counter in an Asda supermarket.

He did have a funny eyebrow though. I assume he thought it constituted some kind of "look" (though I half expected Nicholas Cage to run onstage and rip it off his head as it was a clue in "National Treasure III - Ricky's eyebrow and The Pharaohs Golden Testicle ").

Anyway, I digress. She could have picked three halfway interesting contestants, and instead picked three bloody awful ones. In a way, that is some achievement.

But dear God, Ricky?!?

I'd be more embarrassed about that then lamping a toilet attendant any day of the week.

Definitely agree OP.. Ethan would have definitely won (or at least had a very very good shot at it !). I still to this day have absolutely no idea why he wasn't picked

He had the whole package, he could have definately won.

I was a fan of Ethan and my ideal final 3 boys would have been Duane, Ethan and Joe but Ethan wouldnt have won, I think the only boy with a chance at winning was Duane, and Cheryl made a bad decision there I think.

Am I the only person who thinks the acts who go through are not actually chosen by the judges themselves (except Simon)?

There's no way!!

That's just what I was thinking the other day. She should have put him through instead of Rikki. Just shows what an inexperinced, poor mentor she is. Some people wrongly take the piss out of Louis but he would not make a mistake like that he would have known that Eathan would be more liked than Rikki.

The reason Ethan wasn't put through is that he would have sailed through to the final and won. The girls went too crazy over him.

The young girls are going crazzzzy about lloyd....but thats not helping him "sail" through...

The reason Ethan was not put through was because he was the worst singer..

I don't agree at all. Ethan is a better singer than lloyd and Rikki. I don't actually like Ethan or anything, I just think he was way too popular and his looks would have won it for him.

Sorry but imo ethan was no where near as good a singer as rikki....however annoying rikki was (the eyebrow ) he was a pretty solid singer.

And Lloyds performance at judges house was much better imo.

This is all my view of course, Its just Ethan would have faced the same back-lash lloyd is....he is only there for his looks...

In all honesty, I actually really liked Ethan's voice. Use Somebody was one of the better auditions this series and at least he's not as montonous and tuneless as another certain blonde, Welsh male act in Cheryl's category. Plus, he was just soooooooooooooooo hot.

Ok both lloyd and Ethan are "hot' and would appeal to girls everywhere...but one was picked over the other WHY?
cause lloyd is a better singer and out-shone ethan at judges house.

lets face it if lloyd and ethan were butt ugly and old would we still be such fans...?

I think that both Lloyd and Ethan had the poorest vocals of the final 6 boys. Of Lloyd and Ethan, I think Lloyd at least has a potentially gorgeous vocal tone that with work, could be made good. Ethan.....no power and very dull voice.

It was only all looks with Ethan, at least Lloyd has potential.

There's a lot of people who believe that.

I think the answer is a resounding no.

Meh, I do agree, but it would be a case of the best from a bad bunch. Ethan was as shaky as they come tbh.

Just to clarify for bluerose15, Lloyd really, really isn't a better singer than Ethan. Though Ethan's judges homes performance wasn't great, his audition was far better than anything Lloyd's ever done. And I believe very strongly that presence can't be taught. You can improve on skills, but good performers are born, not made.

I must say I am still baffled by the choice. While not in Joe's league, Ethan is a lot better than Rikki and Lloyd. He's also a lot cooler/more current than Joe. He would have had a really good chance of winning. Perhaps Simon wasn't thrilled about the prospect of an Idol reject winning the x factor?

I agree with this.

Sorry ethans voice is not in a million years better than rikki's.

Rikki had a very good voice he was just bloody annoying.


I can see why people would say lloyd from what we have seen in the lives but imo Lloyd ran rings around ethan in the early stages of the compertiton.