Sorry but Len really has lost the plot. I like Ricky Groves but his dance was def' not worth a 8 and there were al lot of the others that were over scored.

The only thing he got right was commenting about the dance - two couples there should have not been there. Craig should def been in the dance off

Maybe all that time he spends in a high pressure cabin is finally getting to him?

Len's always been a bit generous with his marks, but 8 for Ricky's dance is more than genereous tbh (just to add, I have nothing against Ricky Groves and really loved his American Smooth last week)

I used to be a fan of Len but he was back to his nasty self last night. How is he left get away with being so nasty, rude, arrogant week after week.
The way he rudely stares at Craig and then starts pointing his finger in that agressive manner . What a disgusting thing to say to anyone ' I hate sitting next to him' , then rubbishing the comments of Craig and Bruno. I wish the BBC demoted him from being head judge, because its clearly gone to his thick skull.

what was with the whole pointing thing? You could tell everyone was really uncomfortable and there really was no need for that.

I doubt Craig loves sitting next to Len either, but he doesn't make a song and dance about it

It made me laugh how he nearly sent the paddle flying across the room when he gave Ricky the 8.

TBH I think Len, Bruno and Craig are just as bad as each other. They can all be quite rude. I thought Craig calling Ricky G "conceited" was nothing short of rude. Why does he have to be so personal? I think Len had a point about constructive criticism but the whole finger pointing just made the whole show look pantomime. I really didn't like his aggressive nature.

I found Len's 8 for Rickys' Rumba more offensive than Craig's comment about it being conceited which Len too great offence to.

True. I agree with you Sid, it wasn't worth an 8 but Craig needs to think about what he says. He can be so cutting. But like I said, they are all as bad as each other.

Craig never shouts over the other judges while they're talking nor rubbishes their scoring like bully Len.

Craig does have a bit of an acid tongue But he's tried to provide more positive feedback this series and I'm sure the celebrities know what to expect from him and don't take it too seriously.

I think it really means more when Craig gives a good score or good comments - and I think Craig has been very positive this season. He doesn't say things for dramatic effect - he says what he thinks.

Len, on the other hand - gets right on my wick and scores on things other than the quality of the dancing.

Give me Craig over Len anyday - and don't get me started on Bruno!

Oh dear Mama, have to disagree with you again!

I'm finding Bruno's verdicts and scores the most realistic this series.

What I want to know is who is telling Alesha what to say?

I think I may be a bit out of step with this bit... I think Craig, whom I've never like before, is the only judge who talks sense this year and gives honest and constructive criticism.
Len is turning into a bully and one of those 'I want the camera on me as much as possible' wannaby TV personalities. His attack on Craig was rude, incorrect and made him look a pillock!

I've thoought for a long time that Len is a pillock. It is about time that he was replaced.

All the dancers want good marks from Craig, as they know that he is more honest than any of the others, and a good score from him means more than any amount of 8's and 9's from Len.

A much more entertaining Ask Len would be to get Jeremy Paxman to quiz him on why he gave Ricky G an 8 and Jade a 9, and did he not think that some of the dancers performances might have been in between Ricky and Jade?

I'd also like to hear him explain how its all the public's fault when the better dancers are in the dance off, if the judges cant tell the difference between good and bad dances?

Arlene.

It's like the Chinese olympics opening ceremony, they choose the pretty one to stand by the microphone whilst the "non media friendly" one is off camera with a microphone

Len probably saw Craig was giving a 4, wanted to give the dance a 6 himself but gave it an 8 to compensate for Craigs lower score.


I love how the other judges all ignore her comments. We always get 'I agree with Len/Bruno/Craig' from them - Alesha sort of sits there and makes some ambiguous ramble about nothing.

I think he gave the 8 to counter Craig's low score which makes a mockery of having a variety of opinions.

"You've undermarked someone I like so I'll overmark instead"

Hi didn't call Ricky conceited, he called the routine and performance conceited.
A subtle difference that completely went over Len's head.

I'm pretty sure that Craig and Len actually get on all right after seeing them on ITT. They're some of the few people on the whole show that realise it's not worth taking it all too seriously. That's why they play up disagreements for all they're worth. If they really didn't like each other it'd be all tight lips and snide remarks like on The X Factor.

I think 'conceited' was a stupid word to use, because that was about the last thing that could be said of such a shambles (and besides, I'd've thought doing anything James Bond-style would need a healthy dose of conceit to make it right. It's like criticising a paso for being aggressive). And I think giving 8 was pretty stupid, but then again it was probably a reaction to what Len knew would be a low mark from Craig.

It's time for Len to go.
His marking is ridiculous, normally he marks far too highly.
His comments are usually bland and he seems to try to seek public popularity by being "Mr Nice Guy"
His dance demos with "Claude" are atrocious and serve no useful purpose.
In short it's "Goodnight and goodbye, Len".

Of course it was self indulgent and conceited to chose a James Bond theme just because Ricky G likes James Bond. What has James Bond got to do with the rumba? Maybe Ricky G should have concentrated on the basics of the dance or even chanelling someone that actually made sense in the context of the dance.

If Len gave the mark in response to the low marks of others then he was clearly overmarking and not scoring on the merits of the dance. After that he had no right to complain when the public play favourates too - does he think he is the only one allowed to play favs?

It's all a bit of a pantomime and I feel sorry for Craig. He has a way of delivering his comments that immediately gets everyone booing. However for most of the dancers I feel he offers the most constructive comments, even if I do think he undermarks a little.

For me Bruno is the worst judge for being totally unconstructive. He's so OTT and just flits between 'that was marvellous darling' to 'you just can''t dance'. Somehow he fails to get booed.

But this is a Len thread and I have to say I was quite shocked with his incident with Craig. He was completely out of order and the pointing thing shouldn't be tolerated. Each judge is entitled to voice their opinion - that is what they are paid to do. We the GBP can make up our own minds about what we saw and what each judge thought and then choose how we vote.

Have some respect for each other - and for yourselves!

Was also quite surprised about this exchange as they got on so well on ITT on Friday. It's weird and it doesn't make the show more enjoyable.

Len can't have it both ways - complaining about the public saving 5 worse dancers from the dance-off, yet doing the same thing as the voters by childishly awarding Ricky Groves an 8.

I wonder what would have happened if Craig had shouted and poked Len's shoulder. I bet he would have been given a warning by the BBC bosses.