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Voting %'s
Cape73Town
01-11-2009
Sorry if this is a stupid or previously asked question, but do they ever publish the voting % (like they do with TXF), as I'd be interested to see who gets what each week, so that when it's added to the judges score (or mark the score quates to) what the final rankings look like.

Thanks in advance for any answers posted.
isopap
01-11-2009
Originally Posted by Cape73Town:
“Sorry if this is a stupid or previously asked question, but do they ever publish the voting % (like they do with TXF), as I'd be interested to see who gets what each week, so that when it's added to the judges score (or mark the score quates to) what the final rankings look like.

Thanks in advance for any answers posted.”

No they don't do this. There have been requests to the BBC to publish the results under the Freedom of Information Act (or some similar legislation) but they refuse saying information of this kind is not covered.

IIRC though some of the figures from last year were leaked though.
welwynrose
01-11-2009
Easy answer no they don't
*Laura*
02-11-2009
No. They were leaked last week and it was reported that Chris was way ahead in the public vote with Tuffers being his closest rival. I have to admit that knowing that he was so popular took the shine off last night's results show a little for me, as once it got down to the final three I knew Chris was safe.
StrictlyRed
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“No. They were leaked last week and it was reported that Chris was way ahead in the public vote with Tuffers being his closest rival. I have to admit that knowing that he was so popular took the shine off last night's results show a little for me, as once it got down to the final three I knew Chris was safe.”

Yes, for me that's definitely a reason not to know the percentages - spoils the tension and the surprise.
-Sid-
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Yes, for me that's definitely a reason not to know the percentages - spoils the tension and the surprise.”

I was still biting my nails!

Was so relieved when Chris & Ola's name was called out
Taz93
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Yes, for me that's definitely a reason not to know the percentages - spoils the tension and the surprise.”

Yes but not if the results were put on the SCD Website after the Final.
isopap
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“No. They were leaked last week and it was reported that Chris was way ahead in the public vote with Tuffers being his closest rival. I have to admit that knowing that he was so popular took the shine off last night's results show a little for me, as once it got down to the final three I knew Chris was safe.”

Ooo, I missed this. Where was it reported?
*Laura*
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by isopap:
“Ooo, I missed this. Where was it reported?”

Hi There, it was discussed in this THREAD (Chris Hollins winning SCD - Daily Star).

The article in the Daily Star

Quote:
“STRICTLY bosses fear the show faces another “John Sergeant” crisis as outsider Chris Hollins tops the public vote.

The BBC Breakfast TV host is more popular with viewers than bookies’ fave Ricky Whittle, 27.


Hollins, 38, has raked in the most votes in every show so far, despite his ordinary performances on the dance floor. Yet Chris and dance partner Ola Jordan, 27, are 33-1 outsiders.


Ex-cricketer Phil Tufnell, 43, is their only rival in the voting. A show source said: “Chris has two left feet but the public love him.””

Psychosis
02-11-2009
It's hardly a "John Sergeant" crisis for Chris. He's not the best dancer but he's certainly not awful.
isopap
02-11-2009
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“Hi There, it was discussed in this THREAD (Chris Hollins winning SCD - Daily Star).

The article in the Daily Star”

Thank you. I wasn't on the internet on Saturday!

I would always tend towards being slightly dubious about a Daily Star article but not surprised that Chris is popular. Him and Ola are quite cute together and he started well.
Cape73Town
05-11-2009
Thanks for all the answers - I agree that perhaps not best to post them after each show, as it could spoil the tension and also result in block voting, but I can't see why the BBC won't publish them after each series?

Looking forward to watching everyone tackle the huge floor at Blackpool and will have to keep my fingers and toes crossed when the results are announced and hope my vote helps
mossy2103
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by Cape73Town:
“ but I can't see why the BBC won't publish them after each series?”

What would be gained? The series would be over, and after the Final, public nterest generally drops to something close to zero (apart from the forum stalwarts). For most, I suspect it would be a case of "Ho hum, what's that all about then?".
Servalan
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“What would be gained? The series would be over, and after the Final, public nterest generally drops to something close to zero (apart from the forum stalwarts). For most, I suspect it would be a case of "Ho hum, what's that all about then?".”

It's not about what would be gained - it's what would be lost: the judges' (and the producers') credibility.

Can you imagine if the public voting figures for SCD6 had been published? Quite aside from re-igniting Sergeant-gate (), it would confirm what it was pretty obvious in the final weeks of the competition: that the contestants being ousted by the judges in the dance-off were more popular with viewers (significantly, in some cases) than the judges' favourites whom they shamelessly steered through to the final.

The show's reputation has already taken another battering this year and we are now in the middle of a new 'judges vs public' battle - releasing this information would only make matters worse.

Although it would make interesting reading ...
mossy2103
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“It's not about what would be gained - it's what would be lost: the judges' (and the producers') credibility.

Can you imagine if the public voting figures for SCD6 had been published? Quite aside from re-igniting Sergeant-gate (), it would confirm what it was pretty obvious in the final weeks of the competition: that the contestants being ousted by the judges in the dance-off were more popular with viewers (significantly, in some cases) than the judges' favourites whom they shamelessly steered through to the final.

The show's reputation has already taken another battering this year and we are now in the middle of a new 'judges vs public' battle - releasing this information would only make matters worse.

Although it would make interesting reading ...”

Unless it's me being slow ......
In the absence of any figures from previous years, I'll take that post, especially the bit about credibility, as being supposition and guesswork.

But one thing confuses me - you mention the final stages, surely (for SCD6) it would have been the public voting putting two couples into the dance-off anyway?
Servalan
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“In the absence of any figures from previous years, I'll take that post as being supposition and guesswork.

But one thing confuses me - you mention the final stages, surely (for SCD6) it would have been the public voting putting two couples into the dance-off anyway?”

The figures leaked last year were pretty accurately reflected in what subsequently happened on-screen. Lisa and Rachel leap-frogged each other in the dance-offs, each time paired up with someone the judges could - and did - off, to ensure their favourites reached the final.

It is pretty obvious that the producers and the judges colluded to protect their favourites - because they knew how the public were voting and therefore could mark up Rachel and Lisa and mark down other contestants who were more popular (Austin, Christine). It isn't the public voting that consigns people to the dance-off: it's a combination of the public's and judges' votes. Therefore the producers could reasonably work out how to score contestants to ensure Rachel and Lisa were safe.

It all came undone in the semi-final, of course, when they tried to stitch up Tom, the public's remaining favourite. They botched it up by creating a situation where he could never be saved by the viewers. Hence the three-person final we saw where the public finally had their say.
mossy2103
05-11-2009
Sorry, but I simply do not accept or support any such conspiracy theory. But I accept that others do (as is their right).
Cornchips
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by isopap:
“No they don't do this. There have been requests to the BBC to publish the results under the Freedom of Information Act (or some similar legislation) but they refuse saying information of this kind is not covered.

IIRC though some of the figures from last year were leaked though.”

Does anyone know what exemption clause they use to get out of publishing it?
Kyle123
05-11-2009
Im really shocked that Chris and Ola are getting the most votes! I do like them, but I really didnt think they'd be the top couple!

Im glad though, I'd love to see Ola have a good run in the competition, she always seems to go out midway.
cassieconvinced
05-11-2009
What I found interesting last year from the XF numbers was that Alexandra Burke was NOT a favourite in the voting, eighoan (sp?) was, but she kept gathering voters as other acts were kicked out and eventually overtook him.

That's why I would like to see the percentages, if for nothing else than to see if any of these theories that roam around on this forum are accurate. I wouldn't even mind getting them two years later, just so I know what was actually happening.
cassieconvinced
05-11-2009
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“Im really shocked that Chris and Ola are getting the most votes! I do like them, but I really didnt think they'd be the top couple!

Im glad though, I'd love to see Ola have a good run in the competition, she always seems to go out midway.”

We don't know this for sure. It was in the Daily Star from a "source" inside the BBC, which could be the cleaning lady who happened to hear people applauding as each dancer did their turn on the floor.
jtnorth
05-11-2009
From X Factor/Pop Idol voting figures I have seen - and I haven't seen every series - what surprised me was how changable it all was. Someone could be leading one week and gone the next. Certainly song choice and order of performance were really important. And those shows didn't have scores so wanting to stick up for the people at the bottom of the leaderboard wasn't an issue. The people who won in the end weren't winning every week. There's a lot of luck - as with SCD where you need to get your bad dances over with while people will forgive you and have the dances that suit you waiting for the end.
mossy2103
06-11-2009
Originally Posted by cassieconvinced:
“We don't know this for sure. It was in the Daily Star from a "source" inside the BBC, which could be the cleaning lady who happened to hear people applauding as each dancer did their turn on the floor.”

Very true, something that everyone should bear in mind whenever a tabloid quotes "a source", "insider" or says that something was "leaked" to them.
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