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Is Simon wrong about the twins?
imacd001
03-11-2009
Simon says that X-Factor is a singing contest, but I would say its a contest for singers. The question has always been Do you have the X Factor, and the twins obviously do!
Hogzilla
03-11-2009
He didn't say that when Same Difference was his act, did he?

Come to think of it, he didn't say that on Sunday when he let Lloyd knock out the better singer....
Rose Petals
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Hogzilla:
“He didn't say that when Same Difference was his act, did he?

Come to think of it, he didn't say that on Sunday when he let Lloyd knock out the better singer....”

Same Difference could at least sing. J&E are tone deaf.

The programme's called the X factor so I've always thought it more important an act has what you would call 'it' rather than being a great singer, but Sexy Si would think differently. That said, J&E don't have the X factor either, what they're still doing on there is anyone's guess.
Distoney
03-11-2009
Not sure that he is wrong. He has a valid opinion but I also think he is out of touch with what the public want. He doesn't seem to want to move on from diva 80s and 90s music where he expects the acts to belt out the songs like the top American singers.

I think it is the humour and happy go lucky attitude that the twins bring that appeals to a lot of the audience.

I personally would like to see something completely new in our music industry - someone who has a unique voice that I could identify with. A lot of songs today sound too much the same and its now getting boring.
Distoney
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Hogzilla:
“He didn't say that when Same Difference was his act, did he?

Any act that belongs to Simon can sing

Come to think of it, he didn't say that on Sunday when he let Lloyd knock out the better singer....”

Yes, I felt he forgot it was a singing competition there.
Rose Petals
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Distoney:
“Not sure that he is wrong. He has a valid opinion but I also think he is out of touch with what the public want. He doesn't seem to want to move on from diva 80s and 90s music where he expects the acts to belt out the songs like the top American singers.

I think it is the humour and happy go lucky attitude that the twins bring that appeals to a lot of the audience.

I personally would like to see something completely new in our music industry - someone who has a unique voice that I could identify with. A lot of songs today sound too much the same and its now getting boring.”

I agree and the singers all sound much the same too, you can barely identify one from the other. Well, I can't anyway. I'd like to hear, and see, some more individuality from artists.
TinaTyping
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Distoney:
“Not sure that he is wrong. He has a valid opinion but I also think he is out of touch with what the public want. He doesn't seem to want to move on from diva 80s and 90s music where he expects the acts to belt out the songs like the top American singers.

I think it is the humour and happy go lucky attitude that the twins bring that appeals to a lot of the audience.

I personally would like to see something completely new in our music industry - someone who has a unique voice that I could identify with. A lot of songs today sound too much the same and its now getting boring.”

i agree i hate diva songs anyway .. allways sound like someone torturing a cat . i love john and edward
The Spoon
03-11-2009
Dermot plugged them as 'coming up next' during Saturday's show?

Consiracy 3: Simon Cowell is a massive John and Edward fan and has plotted for them to win since June
Could Simon Cowell's 'I hate those twins' routine be a massive bluff? Insiders have claimed that Simon and fellow judge Louis have been planning to whip the public into a frenzy over John and Edward ever since their first audition. Westlife's Shane Filan has fuelled this speculation by revealing that Simon showed him footage of the boys back in June and said 'they're going to be massive'.

The truth?
As the man who launched Zig and Zag's music career, Simon Cowell has never been one to let a poor vocal performance stand in the way of a hit record. As a savvy businessman, he will also be keen to maximise on the twins' mania that is sweeping the nation so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he plans to turn them into stars. His whole 'twins are a nightmare' act could be part of a plan to get people to vote for the duo simply to annoy him, therefore keeping them in the show. However, while he may want them to reach the final in order to keep ratings high, we don't think he would actually want them to win as it would turn the whole show into a farce. Would he be happy for the twins to represent the best new UK music talent with a performance on American Idol? We don't think so. However, this is definitely the most plausible of the theories put forward.

sounds like what i have been posting for weeks...
noorani
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by imacd001:
“Simon says that X-Factor is a singing contest, but I would say its a contest for singers. The question has always been Do you have the X Factor, and the twins obviously do!”

I think that's the problem really. They talk about the singing, but so often, it's said that they are looking for a contestant with the x factor, especially during the auditions. So this enlarges what it is they are wanting.

But that tells me that each of the 12 finalists have been percieved by the judges to have the xfactor in some shape or form as well as some singing ability, they've seen something in them that they think they can do something with.

I think the defination of 'x factor', could be more on the perception of the person watching the act rather than a set list of criteria. What would Simon be saying about them if he had got the groups?

Simon always calls it a singing competition, which for him I suppose is his personal main aim, but on a whole, I don't think the show would be popular if it was just about that and super serious with it. He's had to encompass more than just the singing, and so the xfactor part of it, and the entertainment part of it is all added in with it to make it a popular show. So I'd say it's a competition for singers.
imacd001
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by Rose Petals:
“Same Difference could at least sing. J&E are tone deaf.

The programme's called the X factor so I've always thought it more important an act has what you would call 'it' rather than being a great singer, but Sexy Si would think differently. That said, J&E don't have the X factor either, what they're still doing on there is anyone's guess.”

You say they don't have the X Factor, but something is getting them votes. Is it pity? I dont think so, I think people really do like them.
The studio audience sould also be told to shut it, the booing is appauling.
spendleb
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by imacd001:
“You say they don't have the X Factor, but something is getting them votes. Is it pity? I dont think so, I think people really do like them.
The studio audience sould also be told to shut it, the booing is appauling.”


The people I know who support them do so because they laugh AT them, they do not have the X Factor as they are pretty talentless, as said before, strip away the loud backing vocals and the OTT staging and they are just 2 lads with average to poor voices, if they have a week where they just sit there on stools singing a ballad then they will be out no problems, suspect Simon already has this planned for when he wants rid of them, they are not there by chance or talent, it's all planned
imacd001
03-11-2009
Originally Posted by spendleb:
“The people I know who support them do so because they laugh AT them, they do not have the X Factor as they are pretty talentless, as said before, strip away the loud backing vocals and the OTT staging and they are just 2 lads with average to poor voices, if they have a week where they just sit there on stools singing a ballad then they will be out no problems, suspect Simon already has this planned for when he wants rid of them, they are not there by chance or talent, it's all planned ”

You could say that about half the acts!!
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