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Has Danyl even got that good a voice?
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fairycakes
04-11-2009
I hate his voice so much. Agree with everything the OP said.
Joe has the best voice in the competition, technically.
BillieA
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by skreepers:
“Has Danyl even got that good a voice?”

He has poor control in general, including breath control.

He has an indistinctive tone.

He has an average range.

He struggles with his tuning in all his registers.

His projection is volume without a musical tone (i.e. shouting).

If the above are components of a good voice then he has a good voice.
shymike
04-11-2009
Just don't get it with Danyl - imo not that great singer at all - sings out of tune and shouts a lot - no way should he win after last weeks performance
Green Goddess
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by shymike:
“Just don't get it with Danyl - imo not that great singer at all - sings out of tune and shouts a lot - no way should he win after last weeks performance”

What so lets say your fav has a really bad week and they could do, they then do not in your opinion to win the show?
Andybear
04-11-2009
I think is voice is well below average.
MissMatch
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by fairycakes:
“I hate his voice so much. Agree with everything the OP said.
Joe has the best voice in the competition, technically.”

I agree!
Menk
04-11-2009
I think having a good voice is a slightly different thing from being a good singer, although ideally it would be best to have both. OP's question is about the voice and I believe he has been blessed with a very good voice - good strength and also lyrical qualities, a very distinctive tone and effortless projection (and I'm not talking about the big notes here.)

Specific criticisms about his technique tend to be more valid than criticisms about his voice. He is often accused of singing out of tune, but his style of singing doesn't always hit a note dead centre and stay there - so I can understand this. His top notes are not open and pure - some find this harsh on the ear. But this is his singing style, and it is the style that many are objecting to. Pavarotti would be in tune and pure in the high notes (well, not any more obv. ) but it wouldn't be rock'n'roll would it?

So I think in this thread it boils down to whether his tone is your cup of tea or not because he has certainly been blessed with a good voice, and the OP's question doesn't appear to be one of singing technique.
Acashoonhay
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by Menk:
“I think having a good voice is a slightly different thing from being a good singer, although ideally it would be best to have both. OP's question is about the voice and I believe he has been blessed with a very good voice - good strength and also lyrical qualities, a very distinctive tone and effortless projection (and I'm not talking about the big notes here.)

Specific criticisms about his technique tend to be more valid than criticisms about his voice. He is often accused of singing out of tune, but his style of singing doesn't always hit a note dead centre and stay there - so I can understand this. His top notes are not open and pure - some find this harsh on the ear. But this is his singing style, and it is the style that many are objecting to. Pavarotti would be in tune and pure in the high notes (well, not any more obv. ) but it wouldn't be rock'n'roll would it?

So I think in this thread it boils down to whether his tone is your cup of tea or not because he has certainly been blessed with a good voice, and the OP's question doesn't appear to be one of singing technique.”

I'm with Billie A's take on the things that you have mentioned in the first paragraph.

There is no excuse for not hitting the notes, whatever your style of singing.

Are you suggesting Danyl is rock 'n' roll? Excuse me if my face is not exactly straight at the moment.

Are you suggesting rock singers don't sing or don't have to sing in tune?

No, it isn't. In this thread it boils down to whether he has a good voice.

No, he hasn't. He has struggled to hold a tune in 7 out of 9 performances and even the other two had more than the odd duff note in them. I don't think that constitutes a good voice by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes, it would appear to be one of technique because the question was whether his voice is that good, not whether people do or don't like it.
buenoshermanos
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by skreepers:
“Everyone goes on about the fact that no matter how unlikeable Danyl is, he has probably the best singing voice in the competition...

To be honest, I hate his voice. It sounds like he is singing through his nose, and he is off key most of the time apart from his big long money notes (:yawn

Does anyone else think his voice is DISTINCTLY average?”

He has a singing voice which not only sounds inferior when compared to soul greats (Marvin, Stevie, Ray) or second class versions (Smokey, Luther), or the third rate current wannabes but even the top impersonators of such voices. That's why being an arrogant tw*t is simply unforgivable.
neelia
04-11-2009
I think that he has a good voice. At the same time I have only really enjoyed one of his performances. I think he would appeal to me more if Xfactor had been a radio show.
kaylah
04-11-2009
No hes very poor Out of tune off key shouts the top notes and cringeworthy performances. Dont care what hes like as a person never have.

Olly and Jamie have far better voices and rarely they go out of tune or off key.
mamamia
04-11-2009
Great voice,people have different opinions and mine is that Danyl has the whole package.
shymike
04-11-2009
Of course any one may have a bad week - but a winner of a competition should show consistency throughout and danyl has not done that; I also hated his sulking last week - a winner should be able to dust themselves down and put in a belter of a performance - danyl pulled his bottom lip out and sang out of tune - that is why he should have left
kenda11
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by buenoshermanos:
“He has a singing voice which not only sounds inferior when compared to soul greats (Marvin, Stevie, Ray) or second class versions (Smokey, Luther), or the third rate current wannabes but even the top impersonators of such voices. That's why being an arrogant tw*t is simply unforgivable.”

why are you comparing him to those singers...its completely pointless ofcourse he's not as good as they are....most singers arent.

i might be mistaken but i dont think he's ever said that hes as good as them
rufusrufus
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by mamamia:
“Great voice,people have different opinions and mine is that Danyl has the whole package.”

i agree with you, he's cool.
Reality Sucks
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by mamamia:
“Great voice,people have different opinions and mine is that Danyl has the whole package.”

He wasn't my favourite to begin with and I agree with neelia that I prefer to listen to him than to look and listen at the same time. However, the more I hear him the more I think he has a really distinctive voice. I'd like to hear him sing something with no money note just to see how he copes with a simple song - no frills.
Menk
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by Acashoonhay:
“I'm with Billie A's take on the things that you have mentioned in the first paragraph.

There is no excuse for not hitting the notes, whatever your style of singing.

Are you suggesting Danyl is rock 'n' roll? Excuse me if my face is not exactly straight at the moment.

Are you suggesting rock singers don't sing or don't have to sing in tune?

No, it isn't. In this thread it boils down to whether he has a good voice.

No, he hasn't. He has struggled to hold a tune in 7 out of 9 performances and even the other two had more than the odd duff note in them. I don't think that constitutes a good voice by any stretch of the imagination.

Yes, it would appear to be one of technique because the question was whether his voice is that good, not whether people do or don't like it.”

I wasn't using rock'n'roll in the literal sense, no.

Many, many contemporary singers do not hit the note dead-on - that is not to say they are not in tune, they bend notes, come from underneath etc. It does not make it out of tune.

In the second paragraph I have highlighted, you are commenting on his technique, not his voice.
Candy Store
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Many, many contemporary singers do not hit the note dead-on - that is not to say they are not in tune, they bend notes, come from underneath etc. It does not make it out of tune. ”

Many singers throughout time have bent notes but Danyl does not bend notes. He doesn't appear to have the ability to. He's never done it on XF at least or on any of his material on the web.

When you bend a note, you bend into the note but Danyl just hits the wrong note and stays there because, of course, he didn't actually intend to hit the wrong note.

Bending of notes was one thing that was repeatedly mentioned when comparing Danyl's performance of Feeling Good to Adam Lambert's because note-bending is one of Adam's strengths. It was pointed out several times that Danyl didn't do that. Not in a derogatory way to Danyl, just in "Thank God he didn't even try" because it's obviously something that he can't do.

Generally, Danyl's voice is just an acceptable one in the world of a talent show (or would be if he managed to control his tuning issues) but it is nothing unique, exceptional or spectacular and doesn't stand out in any way in the big scheme of things.
Menk
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by Candy Store:
“Many singers throughout time have bent notes but Danyl does not bend notes. He doesn't appear to have the ability to. He's never done it on XF at least or on any of his material on the web.

When you bend a note, you bend into the note but Danyl just hits the wrong note and stays there because, of course, he didn't actually intend to hit the wrong note.

Bending of notes was one thing that was repeatedly mentioned when comparing Danyl's performance of Feeling Good to Adam Lambert's because note-bending is one of Adam's strengths. It was pointed out several times that Danyl didn't do that. Not in a derogatory way to Danyl, just in "Thank God he didn't even try" because it's obviously something that he can't do.

Generally, Danyl's voice is just an acceptable one in the world of a talent show (or would be if he managed to control his tuning issues) but it is nothing unique, exceptional or spectacular and doesn't stand out in any way in the big scheme of things.”

Your understanding of bending notes must be very different to mine because Danyl bends notes very often in his performances - you only need to listen to the intro of 'Feeling Good' to hear that.
Brunnen-G
04-11-2009
Never liked his voice, Whitney was spot on when she said he had no melody. He actually sounds like he sings in two notes that are always out of tune with each other. As a performer he does have a fair bit of talent but his voice has no Xfactor. I believe xFactor can come in many forms but there are better examples of it in this years show.
cute chick
04-11-2009
Danyl has the best voice in the competition, plus he is totally different to all the bog standard X Factor crooners.

He is exciting, distinctive and totally stands out in the crowd. I think he has amazing potential and has a warm and soulful voice. He doesn't overdo the vibrato and on top of all that, he's a nice person. Even Louis Walsh has now changed his tune about Danyl. I think he feels a bit guilty about the "unlikeable" comment. He's got to know Danyl now as a person.

Danyl is the first singer of his type who has truly caught my eye. Normally I prefer the 'quieter' performers, such as Leon Jackson, who I also voted for and still love. Both so different to each other, but I love the warm tone of their voices.
Agent F
04-11-2009
Nope. Whitney didn't like it and neither do I.
Green Goddess
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by cute chick:
“Danyl has the best voice in the competition, plus he is totally different to all the bog standard X Factor crooners.

He is exciting, distinctive and totally stands out in the crowd. I think he has amazing potential and has a warm and soulful voice. He doesn't overdo the vibrato and on top of all that, he's a nice person. Even Louis Walsh has now changed his tune about Danyl. I think he feels a bit guilty about the "unlikeable" comment. He's got to know Danyl now as a person.

Danyl is the first singer of his type who has truly caught my eye. Normally I prefer the 'quieter' performers, such as Leon Jackson, who I also voted for and still love. Both so different to each other, but I love the warm tone of their voices.”

I agree totally with you.
RampantJelly
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by buenoshermanos:
“He has a singing voice which not only sounds inferior when compared to soul greats (Marvin, Stevie, Ray) or second class versions (Smokey, Luther), or the third rate current wannabes but even the top impersonators of such voices. That's why being an arrogant tw*t is simply unforgivable.”

That is a pointless argument since all of the above are legends, have sold millions of records between them, and were in the business for years. They are also soul artists and I wouldn't put Danyl in that category- wondering why you did.

For raw talent and vocal sound Danyl has a good voice. I've not liked most of the songs he's been given. Simon must think a big note is necessary to impress.

His audition showed him to be more than capable, the songs I've heard that he wrote himself are more low key than his live songs so far.
Green Goddess
04-11-2009
Originally Posted by RampantJelly:
“That is a pointless argument since all of the above are legends, have sold millions of records between them, and were in the business for years. They are also soul artists and I wouldn't put Danyl in that category- wondering why you did.

For raw talent and vocal sound Danyl has a good voice. I've not liked most of the songs he's been given. Simon must think a big note is necessary to impress.

His audition showed him to be more than capable, the songs I've heard that he wrote himself are more low key than his live songs so far.”

where did you hear the songs he wrote as I would love to hear them. thank you.
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