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I think I've seen all your posts... I sometimes get that - pain in the archie when it happens.

I'VE GOT IT!! Simon is trying to turn Danyl into a male diva! In Simon's twisted unmusical mind Danyl is the direct male equivalent of a Whitney, Mariah, Celine or Christina, despite the fact that this is conceptually flawed and inevitably pushes Danyl's voice way beyond what it is naturally capable of.

It all makes sense now, the big money notes, the female song choices and Simon's pricklyness over the hitherto unforeseen sexual ambiguity of such a project!

I think he has a good voice. Don't think it's perfect but its good. I actually prefer the MP3 versions of his live shows than watching the videos because then you can focus more on his voice. He has this annoying thing where he doesn't finish the end of the big note though "I didn't know my own streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen" being the most noticable. But personally I feel the vocal coach should have beaten that out of him.

The second half of I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing was really good. Really really good. Shame about the terrible start.

I think his singing on his own songs is much better and more likable than we get on the show though.

I love that song, and it would be perfect for Danyl.

I think he has a good voice unfortunately he tends to over cook the song though.

His voice is really unpleasant. It's one of those sounds that makes me feel stressed out. I'd also urge you to look at the group song form the first live week, "I Gotta Feeling" on Youtube. Listen to his first line, after Jamie and Olly at the beginning of the show and you'll see what I mean. It's about 21 seconds in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7nJir8uoo

John and Edward have the ear of a fair few people. What does that say?

I wouldn't say it's unpleasant.

His line in that song was the same as the start of I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing. Maybe he couldn't hear the music then either. Funny how the others could.

I'd say it's excruciating!

He could hear the music and the line was botched but not out of key as it was in last Saturday's performance. You must have noticed that Ollie sang the wrong notes on the line before Danyl's too - it's not ideal when someone messes up your cue.

Strange remark from someone who seems to be supportive of J&E.

"Menk in Excuse of Danyl's Bad Vocals Shocker"


The thing is no one is trying to convince anyone that J&E are good singers.

I think he's a very good singer, just listened back to the mp3's of his performances and they sound the best out of all the contestants but agree this week was pretty bad in the first half of the song for whatever reason. Hopefully this week he will be back on form.

may i refer you to this thread

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1154602

Just pointing it out in the intrests of fairness - no-one else would mention (or even notice for that matter) a mistake made by any other contestant.

But nobody in their right mind pretends for a second that J&E are proper singers do they? I'm (vaguely) supportive of The Terrible Twosome because they're highly amusing (for now.)

Its all down to personal tastes as well,surely?

I sometimes wish (no offence meant!) that the people on this forum with music knowledge would stop giving lectures on why Danyl's voice is bad, or trying to explain keys/octaves/any old thing to back up their argument.

I am not musically trained, but I know what I like when I hear it. And I didnt need any musical training to tell that the first part of his song last Saturday was bad.

But, overall, I like his voice. My favourite performance of his has still been week one, mostly I like listening to his own stuff - I find it lovely.

I don't know what a "proper" singer is and I don't care. I like listening to what I like listening to.

wouldn't kick him out the shower...

...and didn't someone once say that about Will Young's Light my Fire

To be honest I've seen just as many on this forum with musical knowledge supporting him as not supporting him.

I honestly don't think you're a million miles off there. Having listened to Danyl's own stuff, it's easily within his comfort zone, not sung in a great range and I didn't notice any massive belts - none of this is a bad thing BTW. It's not to my taste but okay to listen to.

Compared to his XF performances he seems to be pushed into something he doesn't really know how to do, often his big 'money' note sounds strained - like it's being sung from the throat rather then the chest giving it a 'tight' sound, not a natural belt like someone who's used to doing it.

Best example I can give is compare his IDWMAT and David Cook's belt at the end of his, Danyl looses the power towards the end and starts sounding 'thin', David, who does sing in this style already easily maintains it.

Personally, I think it's Simon's song choices are the main problem, he's picking songs that Danyl isn't naturally suited to, and pushing his voice where it isn't used to going - and I don't trust the vocal coaches on the XF to sort it, after last year when they turned Diana, a girl with a pleasant voice with an interesting quirk at auditions/boot camp into a girl who's voice was all quirk and nearly unlistenable to.

Maybe because no other contestant is as overrated.

In fact I can't remember another so overrated contestant.

Precisely Candy Store. And actually nobody has made such cringeworthy mistakes either (unless you count J&E, who are at least consistent in their entertaining - ahem - pitching.)

>>Originally Posted by Reality Sucks
Actually his idols are all soul artists such as James Brown, Jamiroquai, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson etc. <<

Dead wrong. His only idol is the face in the mirror every morning.