What is the point of the judges vote at the end of the programme on Sunday. The last two Sundays there was clearly one better singer than the other but the judges decide to put it to the public vote.

It is not know about talent which is blatent by the way Rachel was voted off on Sun. Clearly miles better than Lloyd. So if it is what the public want lets get rid of the judges vote and let the public vote each week. After all three out of the four shows so far have gone to deadlock. Judges vote is pointless.

Also why vote for your favourite. You may have three or four and won't know who you want to win until show progresses. Why not vote for person you want out. Public decides who they dont like more using this method

But if it was a vote for who we want out. The remaining contestants would be the ones that provoke no emotion not the most popular.

But surely, by virtue of the fact the the public voted someone else out other you, it would mean that you are more liked than the other person?

I happen to agree with the OP; X-F should now be a vote to evict, except for the final where it would revert to vote to win.

If it was vote to evict, more people would vote for the poor acts to go & we'd be left with the cream of the crop.

The shake up X Factor needs is to revert back to how it used to be (will never happen) or finish all together. I may not even tune in for the final this year. I love Lucie & Stacey, like Olly, and the twins and Danyl are providing some good talking points... however there's nobody that makes me go "wow" and the fact that it looks like Danyl, J&E and Joe will be around til the final just makes me want to switch off.

YES!!

It's beginning to get to me that people think this is a good idea. I don't even think it's a good idea on Big Brother, it just makes the eviction more nasty so "entertains". All it did for BB was make the house more and more boring each week.

I think you've summed it up perfectly.

The standard is low this year.

Even the better acts don't fill me with any passion whatsoever., as they are so bland.

I remember in previous years, the likes of Rhydian making my jaw drop, or the likes of Leona moving me, but I don't feel that this year at all.

Would they really? There is a vitriol of hate for Danyl, who is far from the worst contestant! He'd have been out on his ass the first week everyone jumped on that bandwagon.

J&E would be gone, yes, which I assume is the basis for this argument because it really makes no sense in terms of any of the others.

Miss. Frank would probably still be in, but at the expense of a bigger personlity. Possibly Stacey? Who knows.

It DOESN'T equate to more liked, no. That is a common misconception. You can't measure how popular someone is by looking at how unpopular they are, a LOT of people could be indifferent.

To prove this point, and hopefully lay this to rest:

Most Popular poll

John & Edward 22.43%
Olly Murs 16.62%
Lucie Jones 15.30%
Stacey Solomon 12.93%
Danyl Johnson 11.61%
Joe McElderry 10.29%
Jamie Archer 8.97%
Lloyd Daniels 1.85%

Least Popular poll

(Listed least disliked first to show you it's not the same order as most liked first)

Olly 2.19%
Joe 3.20%
Stacey 3.37%
Jamie 4.55%
Lucie 6.58%
Lloyd 21.25%
John & Edward 22.09%
Danyl 36.76%

I don't know if I even voted in those so really they are not really correct. There maybe some who are just don't vote.

That's not my concern, mita My point is that they are not the same thing.

I love Jamie and voted Stacey my least fave this week, whereas you love Jamie and also like Stacey. We'd vote differently, hence the fact the polls do not show the same thing.

In summary, X Factor has to go by popularity because they want to sell records at the end of the day.

Why is it that Danyl supporters cannot accept the fact that others have simply reached their own conclusions that they don't like him? Because they're so bloody superior? Because they're confident that all those who don't agree with them are incapable of thinking for themselves? Because unless you jump on a "bandwagon" or believe everything you read in the gutter press, its humanly impossible not to recognise the Second Coming?

I thought he was a crap entertainer the first time I saw him perform. And no, I don't find him "cocky."

I find him repulsive.

I do like Danyl, but I'm a Jamie fan actually so you can save your ranting. What I said didn't deserve that, tbh. I merely pointed out that a lot of people suddenly started disliking Danyl at the same time - this is a fact!

No they wouldn't. They'd vote for the favourites to get rid of a rival.

So, no different to now then?

Negative voting is stupid.

Big Brother is boring after so many weeks because the big characters leave.
I can't see The X Factor being any different.

We'd be left with 3 dullest out of the 12 acts for the final.

If you like 4 acts yet only one of them makes you want to pick up the phone - then tough...

It's up to you to vote for your favourite(s) and if they ain't good enough to make you vote then that's your problem.

As for the bottom two thing, I think they should shake that up.
The final X should get through and then the bottom two should do a sing off with the lines opening for us to vote for 15 minutes who we wanna stay out of the two.
I think we should get 100% say in who goes each week.
The judges make the wrong choice 90% of the time. At least we'll only have ourselves to blame this way.
Last edited by Billyyyyy : 06-11-2009 at 17:50

There's no way you can know that. Many people probably disliked him from the start (I did) but didn't comment till later.

No, at the moment we vote for our favourites. That's fair, the ones with the most votes go through. If we voted to get someone out, I'd vote for the best one every week so my fave had a better chance of winning. I assume that's what the other poster meant.

The X Factor would not work with 'vote to kick out'. That's why they do it the way they do.

Well, fair enough, yeesh. It was a very small point of a post about negative voting to illustrate that it wouldn't work. On this forum, it APPEARED as though that was the case. You even said yourself you didn't comment til later, how is anyone supposed to read it differently?

I like this idea. I like it a lot

The thing is though, using your logic, of scrapping the judges' vote, the same two would still have gone home as they got he lowest viewers' votes!

Nah, because that was when we voted for all the acts so I voted Jamie, for example. If we'd had to vote between Rachel and Lloyd based on the sing off, we'd only be able to choose one of those so I could have then voted Lloyd, for example.