Totally agree with you (I think, I've been on the pink pop, so am a bit bemuddled ), but with all this Danyl bashing he doesn't seem to mind that much. He could help him out a bit more, but doesn't. Ollie is his golden boy. Is it me or is he morphing in to Si (yuk think I may hurl )

Am I making sense

**backs out quietly so no-one knows I've been here**

I thoroughly enjoy her repetitive comments.

I really liked Cheryl last year, she seemed genuine and sincere. This year she seems aloof, rude and uninterested in anything else but how she looks and her 'career' I think the whole show is all about the judges now and its getting really boring.

I think half the reason people are voting for the twins is because the audience are fighting back against a show that feels scripted and manipulative.

very first post here after lurking for many months

Last year I gave her the benefit of the doubt; assumed she was just nervous & couldn't really think of something original to say & she'd improve this year when she was more into the swing of things.
Turns out she really does just have nothing remotely interesting to say.

Her comments generally are dire. One turned out to be spot on though—when she warned Simon not to be so smug after Rikki was voted out, one of his acts could be in the bottom two the following week.

Well welcome lurker.. and I agree with you as well.

IMO cheryl is the worst judge this year. her song choices are pants, her comments catty and unhelpful, and it seems she's on the show to further her own career. Nothing more than attention grabbing.

Seems? That's the only reason.

She will never be a 'posh'.
Posh and her husband are in a different stratesphere to her.

lol her use of the phrase thouroughly entertaining is so repetitive its funny

Hahaha.
She gives one good comment and suddenly that makes up for the rest of the absolute trash she comes out with?

Seriously, underneath the autotuned vocals, you are left with a "judge" who is out of her depth and has absolutely no real talent herself.
How exactly is saying "yer a little popstaaa" and "i love ye" being constructive? And she's getting paid THAT amount of money to say that?

Are Simon, Dannii and Louis out of their depth as well?

See the list of cliches from last weeks show. They all dished them out.

How exactly is saying that "was a great performance" to Lloyd the comment of a woman with fully functioning ears? And how constructive was this constructive:

Her comments last week to Danyl were ridiculous - she told him 'you've got it all, and you do everything well, you just don't do it for me'!! I just thought what a stupid thing to come out with, how is that constructive, what can danyl take from that and think well i can work on that this week, she is their to give helpful, constructive advice not to take digs at someone's personality - how would she feel if one of the contestants gave it back to her, took a dig at her personality or the fact she is on a singing show and can't sing herself - last year she seemed focused to do well on the show this year she is only on their for her career and that is all she is thinking about not her acts or the other acts, just herself.

People seem to be confused about what a judge does. A coach may offer advice to help someone improve. A judge does not. A judge... well, they judge! I can't recall olympic judges offering advice to the athletes.

The primary purpose of the judges is to give their opinions. They are also required to integrate this with their role as "TV Judges" and entertain the public. Getting them talking, whether good or bad. Simon Cowell didn't get to where he is today by offering constructive criticism. He did so by giving blunt and direct opinions which the viewing public found to be controversial and entertaining. If it worked for him, I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed for the others.

A 30 second slot in front of a shreiking audience on live TV is not the place for anyone to get any real advice. There simply isn't much time for the judges to do much more than pass comment and perhaps say why they didn't like it.

Simon has spent years using "the likeability factor" as a cover for just not getting it. Cheryl simply doesn't think Danyl has a hope. She's probably not wrong as he clearly isn't connecting with the public.

why are people only saying this about cheryl

louis said to llod you should be in a boy band whats he meant to do with that.....if the judges went into technique(which none of them do) alot of people would turn off.

True. I can't recall Simon giving John and Edward any "constructive criticism," nor would I guess that they expect it. I don't understand why any one contestant should be entitled to it over the others.

It is interesting that Cheryl is the target.

As the list which I so generously provided on the previous page shows, Cheryl wasn't the worst for cliches last weekend. Ironically, it was DS forum favourite Dannii saying the things Cheryl apparently says (you're a star, I adore you, you're hot hot hot, you're a heartthrob) and Louis was probably the worst of the night (as usual!). Not saying that they shouldn't say these things, it's all part of being an X Factor judge and Dannii and Louis do their jobs well. Just interested in the selective memories we seem to have on here.

Well, seeing as this was a thread about Cheryl Cole, most people would assume that it wasn't about the other judges and their comments? Or is it just me?

But no, to answer your question, Dannii's comment to Olly wasn't constructive and yes, the cliches are just rolling out from all the judges these days, which is getting pretty boring all round.

However, I do feel that out of all the judges, Cheryl's comments are the least constructive.. and it's clear for everyone to see that she knows absolutely nothing about the singing voice, which is why her own is utterly dire and is also the reason why she doesn't even attempt to comment on anything about the voice.
& no, I don't believe the judges should be sitting talking about vocal technicalities, but as a so called "singer", one would think she might try comment on a voice itself, rather than what someone is wearing (eg. Stacey in week one).

I agree that if the judges only talked about vocal technique, not EVERYONE would understand it and it would get boring. But really, I think it's far too repititve, so it would be nice to see one of them saying something that's a little different, no?


Nah, it's not a selective memory atall, it's your total inability to realise this was a thread about CHERYL COLE and her comments.

I suppose it is, when you cherrypick to suit an agenda that fails to stand up to scrutiny.


How many posts are you going to base around a comment you've taken completely out of context? There's more to a "performance" than the vocal, which she in fact criticised; "I found at times your voice was drowned out by the track. I would love to hear something a bit more melodic". And to reinforce the point (even though there's really no need to); "it's the most comfortable you've been on stage". Seems the hearing issues reside elsewhere ...

One comment of little or no consequence is hardly an issue, given that everything else she had to say throughout the show was pertinent and clearly distinguished her from her colleagues.


Absolute tripe. A few pleasantries during the course of an honest appraisal is fine. But there's absolutely no comparison with consistently failing to offer any opinion whatsoever.

The irony of this comment is absolutely staggering.

She always seems to be reading from a script (i.e., glancing down every three words or so), even for her "comments" and intros to her acts!

She brings that 'little princess' side to the table that everyone seems to love, she's not a brilliant observer then speaker to be honest, her teeth is annoying also (lol).

The show would be weaker without her though thats for sure - but her being allowed by "daddy Simon" to plug that terrible song for me says everything about that show.

Lets hope J&E win it - it will wreck her head, big-time lol

A Goldfish has a memory capacity of 7 seconds....

Tommy - How could you give J&E any constructive criticism??, everyone knows there tripe but most are voting for them because there doing it for fun or to annoy the hell out of Simon...

Lets be honest not many serious music lovers would buy any of that show's music - unless it was new & original...

Some chance of that lol