Well said. Totally agree with you.

I agree to say something about credibility is something so subjective. Some of my friends go on the various Rock places during the summer. I love Rock and I don't care if it is heavy metal,soft rock or whatever I love most of the songs.

Hi Glorifindel I agree they are more that smart enough. I know it has started to open up new outlets not just in this country but others too.

I think they will both be have to go on the tour though.
Still they can manage that.

It has given the publicity that was required and good on them.

Has he not learnt his mistake from the Danyl thing? He really shouldn't be setting out his stall this early.

lets be honest Simon and Co are loving it they are totally pushing SCD into the gutter.

they are totally owning the tabloids in terms of stories.

Maybe he still really wants Danyl to win but thinks the public are not voting for him enough as Simon favours him too much.

I agree with you mentors look at poor Lloyd bless him.

It makes me annoyed as we were really looking forward to hearing him sing this weekend.

If Jamie walks, is he free to do his own thing? Surely they won't want him on the tour?

ArtyAttack he had 35% of the votes last week it was said and J&E had 30%.

I don't know it just all seems weird first of all Danyl and Sannita and then Sky and Jamie.

Or perhaps he wants Jamie and that's why he hasn't bigged him up at all?

Hey, long shot but just throwing it out there.

I'm lost for words with the Buster and Fightstar example.

I don't think that he has quit. The heading would have said Jamie quits if he had, not threatens to quit.

Well according to one thread on here, Jamie has had a fall out with him.

This is what makes me think this is not true. He wanted to go on tour. He loves being in the xFactor. It just does notring true.

I think Simon's probably at the point where even he's confused by who he's trying to manipulate and to what end!

But, on that note, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he cools down on his praise towards Danyl to quite an extent to try and give him room for improvement (create a 'journey' for him).

Yes he did but that was about two weeks ago and that is when he threatened Simon to leave.

That was a site on the internet offering 10,000 free phonecalls that makes up only a tiny sample of overall votes and shouldnt be used to guess a winner.

I dont believe it for one minute hes loving it on the XF why would he walk, Its all rubbish

You might well be right there we just don't know do we.

I want him to stay but it is up to him of course.

You must be having me confused with someone else. He's not even in my bottom 3. My vitriol is directed to Lloyd.

I simply do not see the point of him and I said so before, so all over the place is clearly an exaggeration .

Big ((((((((((((((((hug))))))))))))))))))))))) the voice of reason

I think you'e missing my point. I'm not saying I deem either credible, I'm saying that fans who turned their nose up at Busted (X FACTOR) can still like Fightstar (Jamie's band)!

As mita said, credibility is subjective. You state your case as if it's factual.

Vitriol,one of my fave words- I am sure you see things that we as fans might not see. However as fans we cannot help it.

Which type of rock bands or rockers do you think are credible?

Possibility, I suppose. It was someone with a username beginning with V bashing Jamie so I put two and two together. I won't mix you up with anyone again after this lengthy discussion though.