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Laila and Anton's paso way better than Ali and Brian's last week?


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Old 07-11-2009, 20:54
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I wouldn't say Ali is a more natural dancer.

She's just had more practice - having done extensive ballet training in the past.

If Laila had had as much experience, I bet she'd be just as good.
Maybe. How can we know that for sure though?
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:16
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thought laila did great tonight, and looked absolutely fabulous... but i do get the impression the partnership with anton is strained and its pobably affecting them.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:18
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Ali is a korma; Laila is a phall ... in terms of personality. The judges prefer technique, so we'll get the korma in the final.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:36
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I thought Laila was fab... But why did anton choreograph a lift in it when he knew the judges would mark them down?
Bit pointless pretending it was spontaneous when we had seen them practising it in their VT?
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:41
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thought laila did great tonight, and looked absolutely fabulous... but i do get the impression the partnership with anton is strained and its pobably affecting them.
Not again please!! things don't look bad at all between them, it's the same with others some days as well. I thought they were wonderful tonight and they deal with each other well. They are a good team don't drag things up again.
Their dance was lovely LAILA did the straight face beautifully
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:44
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I thought Laila was fab... But why did anton choreograph a lift in it when he knew the judges would mark them down?
Bit pointless pretending it was spontaneous when we had seen them practising it in their VT?
I imagine he's got the point that the judges aren't going to mark them highly whatever they do, especially in Latin, so he's trying to appeal to the public to keep them out of the bottom two.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:48
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Am I the only one who thinks so?
Probably not but Ali's was more polished. I'd have put Laila & Anton above Natalie & Vincent on the leader board though.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:51
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Ali's wasn't that polished.

(And I like Ali)
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:53
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Not again please!! things don't look bad at all between them, it's the same with others some days as well. I thought they were wonderful tonight and they deal with each other well. They are a good team don't drag things up again.
i haven't 'dragged' anything up before, so can hardly do so again!

i don't happen to think they are a particularly successful or well suited pair. so there.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:53
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I preferred Laila's Paso - even taking Ali's sore foot into consideration the whole feel of her dance last week was wrong.
As an actress, she should have been able to portray the passion and aggression more.

I'm a bit disappointed in Anton putting in the lifts though - he should know better?
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:55
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Probably not but Ali's was more polished. I'd have put Laila & Anton above Natalie & Vincent on the leader board though.
Laila's was vastly simpler but she had better suited music to what people expected and her outfit and the choice of colours was also more obviously linked to what she was doing. She looked the part before she started acting it.Ali looked like some other plot and her choreography and music took her there. You probably can't be too obvious given what some people will expect, the pitfalls of getting subtler or unsuitable l music and how little the camera shows.
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:57
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I wouldn't say Ali is a more natural dancer.

She's just had more practice - having done extensive ballet training in the past.

If Laila had had as much experience, I bet she'd be just as good.
Sid . where are you getting " extensive training from " she did ballet as a kid, I did Irish dancing , doent mean I could be in the River Dance league .!
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Old 07-11-2009, 21:59
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I absolutely loved it - the Paso is one of my favourite dances. Anton and Laila looked superb (dark colours, particularly red and black, always look great) and the choreography was spot on. Brilliant. I just loved it.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:00
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Sid . where are you getting " extensive training from " she did ballet as a kid, I did Irish dancing , doent mean I could be in the River Dance league .!
She did ballet right through her teens as I understand it and was taking dancing lessons as recently as 18 months ago. Her ballet experience shows in her beautiful poise and lines - Darcey Bussell commented that she was obviously a ballet dancer. It's pretty obvious, actually!
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:00
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Sid . where are you getting " extensive training from " she did ballet as a kid, I did Irish dancing , doent mean I could be in the River Dance league .!
It was something Sara Cawood said on ITT.

She revealed she was a trained ballerina herself and she felt Ali was as well from the way she moved.

I reckon Ali's done a fair bit of ballet in the past. I don't hold it against her though - but it undoubtedly helps her perform better.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:02
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It was something Sara Cawood said on ITT.

She revealed she was a trained ballerina herself and she felt Ali was as well from the way she moved.

I reckon Ali's done a fair bit of ballet in the past. I don't hold it against her though - but it undoubtedly helps her perform better.
Ok fair enough , but I wouldnt call it extensive training .
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:02
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Laila's was vastly simpler but she had better suited music to what people expected and her outfit and the choice of colours was also more obviously linked to what she was doing. She looked the part before she started acting it.Ali looked like some other plot and her choreography and music took her there. You probably can't be too obvious given what some people will expect, the pitfalls of getting subtler or unsuitable l music and how little the camera shows.
I agree with you about the dress and the music although it was paso music. The pros are limited in what they can choose. There was nothing wrong with the choreography but agree that the dance as a whole was probably too subtle for many viewers. At least the camera is showing the dancers feet this year so we actually see some of the faults the dancers are making.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:03
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She did ballet right through her teens as I understand it and was taking dancing lessons as recently as 18 months ago. Her ballet experience shows in her beautiful poise and lines - Darcey Bussell commented that she was obviously a ballet dancer. It's pretty obvious, actually!
Source?

All I've seen cited as evidence in other threads is a Mirror article that spun stage school as a specialist dance school; and even it only said:

The actress, now 26, went to stage school for three years from the age of 10 where she was taught dance instead of sports and gym.

She also had ballet lessons for several years as a child.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21750964/
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:06
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It was something Sara Cawood said on ITT.

She revealed she was a trained ballerina herself and she felt Ali was as well from the way she moved.

I reckon Ali's done a fair bit of ballet in the past. I don't hold it against her though - but it undoubtedly helps her perform better.
In other words, the only evidence is what you remember Sara Cawood giving as her opinion, and even that didn't say "extensive training".

I don't think Ali's dancing shows evidence of extensive ballet training at all.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:10
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In other words, the only evidence is what you remember Sara Cawood giving as her opinion, and even that didn't say "extensive training".

I don't think Ali's dancing shows evidence of extensive ballet training at all.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

And I'm entitled to mine

I'm not bothered by Ali's ballet training - extensive or not. I just wish I could find her and Brian more engaging, but I don't.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:12
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That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

And I'm entitled to mine

I'm not bothered by Ali's ballet training - extensive or not. I just wish I could find her and Brian more engaging, but I don't.
You can have an opinion SId , BUT to say she has extensive training based on nothing will draw disscussion .

The only one who qualifies for " extensive training " is Jade , in the long jump
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:16
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That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

And I'm entitled to mine

I'm not bothered by Ali's ballet training - extensive or not. I just wish I could find her and Brian more engaging, but I don't.
Give the poisonous effect that claims about prior training have on how people think of SCD contestants, I think any such claims should be based on solid evidence.

So if anyone has anything beyond Sara Cawood's or someone else's opinion that Ali had "extensive training" or "ballet right through her teens", or anything else of that sort, let's have it.

Otherwise, I think they should stop making it sound like it's something we actually know.
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:17
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You can have an opinion SId , BUT to say she has extensive training based on nothing will draw disscussion .

The only one who qualifies for " extensive training " is Jade , in the long jump
It was based on the opinion of someone who is a trained ballerina herself - I believed Sara when she said she thought Ali had done a lot of ballet in the past. I expect she can spot these things.

Others are free to believe her training was fairly limited
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:19
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It was based on the opinion of someone who is a trained ballerina herself - I believed Sara when she said she thought Ali had done a lot of ballet in the past. I expect she can spot these things.

Others are free to believe her training was fairly limited
How do we know what Sara Whoever knows or doesnt know . Only facts matter and statements like that can bring someone down
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Old 07-11-2009, 22:21
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It was based on the opinion of someone who is a trained ballerina herself - I believed Sara when she said she thought Ali had done a lot of ballet in the past. I expect she can spot these things.
So it's your opinion of someone else's opinion.

If you're going to use Sara Cawood as your authority, then you should find a checkable source for what she actually said. Otherise, it's just an opinion of a memory of someone else's opinion.
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