Well, they've closed, deleted or merged a fair few threads.

Yep, its my opinion which I'm entitled to; I am no sheep and follow my own mind. My opinion being that Alesha was entitled to her opinion, even if some think she was rude.

To me she was no more rude than any of the other three judges. Having said that, Cowell and Ramsey the gods of 'rudeness', nay, nastiness, seems to have done alright.

Yawn, can't be bothered anymore. Carry on regardless as I'm sure you will.

As a personal preference, I liked Craig's Cha-Cha more than Alesha's.

At least it was strict tempo music..

LOL!!!!!

Thats absolutely fine. I am not condemning you for having a view but don't try and make out that people who don't agree with you are tiresome.

Anyone know what the penalties for Libel are when comments such as these are stated on the internet..... I assume the mods will at least have an IP address for this moron

And you just quoted it again, thus making sure that not only do you have it in your post, but that it's also in more than one place and likely to be seen by more people.

Not clever. Why didn't you just report it?

Obliquely?! The Zoe comment is clearly the focus of Ignazio's post, as they have said themselves.

How can you complain about me saying "it's likely" in regards to phlegmatist's post when you went further by saying as a certainty that their post was not about the Zoe comment? Unlike you, I at least left room for the possibility that my interpretation was wrong.

I have never denied that the discussion has gone wider than the Zoe comment (I accepted that it had in my post which you quoted), or had a problem with it doing so. Still, it is clearly that one line that caused this thread to be started, and that it has been the main focus of this thread.

Libel? It's clearly a joke!

But if any of the other judges had made Alesha's comment, would there be so much castigation as there is for her ? Because it seems to me to be the case that she has not been there long enough to make comments like that. SHE had to endure it ! But the other judges had to endure it as well, and they did not complain in those terms.

That, surely, is the whole point.

For me, it's nothing to do with the length of time she's been on the panel but the fact she was supposed to provide a different perspective to the other judges - one that involved offering support and advice to the celebrities (as someone who understood what they were going through ) - not to make catty comments.

Once a bitch always a bitch to be honest. Never thought she was that type but like someone said, ever since she replaced Arlene she has come across as arrogant and almost like she is qualified. I know she should be confident and it wasnt her fault that Arlene was dismissed but all the radio/TV inteviews that she has been on, she seems to think that us the viewers are crazy for complaining about her position as a judge and she was almost perfect.

Has it crossed your minds that this might be because no one except some people on SCD message boards are the least bit interested, not even the media who normally take any opportunity to stir things up?


Sorry but I just can't let this go unchallenged. Are you saying Alesha is a bitch and always has been? You say you never thought she was that type and yet now you are saying 'once a bitch always a bitch? On the basis of what makes you say this?


In what way has she appeared arrogant as opposite to confident and are you saying she should act as if she's not qualified? Are we back to she is not qualified to be a judge now then?


What radio/TV interviews are you referring to? I've heard Alesha say something about the viewers voting once and that was a 30 second VT clip on ITT. Please tell me what else you know about.

If you are going to post something as inflammatory as this you can't expect it to go unchallenged.

The trouble is: Alesha is on probation as a judge to many viewers. Many people did not agree with her appointment in the first place henceforth are actively looking for faults. Now if she'd stayed nice, gave her critiques in a friendly manner at all times and supported the contestants as their supposed 'champion' on the panel, she'd have won almost everyone over eventually. As it is, even some pro-Alesha posters are shocked by her behaviour on Saturday night. She has given her detractors the ammunition to fire at her.

IMO it started with the drunken rag doll and Dad dancing comments. Now she's having to 'endure' things that she's paid a bloody good wage to put up with. I was warming to Alesha but I'm afraid I'm rapidly going off her again.

I think she's trying to find her footing on the panel but is going about it the wrong way. She's not going to be liked by being bitchy and nasty, it may go down well with the smaller 'just keeping it real' percentage of the audience but I think most were quite shocked and think that 'manners maketh the man' - or woman in this case!



I believe that she was completely shocked at the backlash against her (not surprisingly) and is putting a brave face on it all. I noticed in her later interviews with Fearne Cotton that there were small bags under her eyes, so IMO it's affecting her more than she's letting on (how could it not really? Who wants to be called the Most Hated Woman in Britain FGS ). I now think she's in the defiance stage, the 'well if they don't like me - tough! I'll do/say what I want' etc Especially if she has time to read the criticism of herself on these boards.

However I do agree that she isn't coming over particularly well in interviews, but I DO think she's putting on a hard exterior. The BBC threw her an escape route a bit regarding Arlene so when she's asked about her she can say Arlene's went on to a great job etc. But I still say that Arlene would not have got the So You Think You Can Dance job without the uproar there was at her sacking. Otherwise the BBC would have said at the time that they'd made Arlene a judge on their exciting new dance show and replaced her on SCD with Alesha.

IMO Alesha seriously needs to drop the hard, Am I Bovver'd attitude/exterior if she wants to be truly accepted as a SCD judge. No one minds proper critique, but not nastiness. And I don't like it from the other judges either.

Yep , a little bit of " I am new , I hope you will give me a chance ,and I will do my very best etc " would have gone a long way in winning the crowd ,
But , and I was a big Alesha fan , this attitude is not helping at all .

That is totally different to saying 'Once a bitch always a bitch'.

I do agree with this poster and I do not like nastiness from AD or the other judges. Kangaroogate and Alesha's comments on Saturday were very uncomfortable to watch - Bruno has been really horrible this series and Len can go over-the-top. Craig is known for his caustic comments but I do feel they could all temper their remarks and think about the way they are saying it. It may mean one thing to them but it does come over as completely unacceptable especially if it perceived as a personal attack or making fun of the celebrities.

Are you for real?

You make it sound like i have something personal against her, when i was one of few people who liked her after show 1. On Hella FM, when the presenter was asking her about the complaints, she was like 'I don't know why it is such an issue when there are politicial crisis going on, it will all die down soon however''.

Those were her exact words, and i felt she sounded very arrogant imo especially when people were against her even though i agree that a bigger issue of it was made than there should have been.

I guess you can agree or disagree on this one.

So how come Alesha is rather more blunt than she perhaps should have been and there's an outburst of hysteria, yet Bruno is a bigger bitch than Craig and Arlene put together and nobody says anything?

It's like there's one rule for Alesha and one rule for everyone else ...

Do you mean that what she said on a radio show qualifies her, in your opinion, as a 'bitch'? Or was she a 'bitch' before that? Your argument is unclear.

And, for the record, I disagree.

All of the judges have their comments complained about on here. The reaction to Alesha this week is nothing compared to the anger over the treatment of John Sergeant last year. There are a few who are looking for any opportunity to attack Alesha, but there are also a few who will defend her no matter what. The majority just don't like this comment and would feel the same way no matter which judge had said it.

I'd agree that all the judges are complained about all the time - I, as happens by this stage every year, can't stand the lot of them. But it's more open for discussion with Alesha because we're all trying to work out what kind of judges she's aiming to be.

The others are very clear - Kind uncle Len, who is overgenerous with scores; overemotional (don't mind me I'm a comedy foreigner - sorry but that is what he's doing) Bruno; rude Craig but with the balance that if Craig marks you high you must be good (you watch in Chris Hollins face for one during the judges' comments how much more it means when Craig is nice to him). Craig has that balance of OK you can hate me for being rude and Bruce makes jokes about me but I'm the 9 and 10 scores people really cheer.

That why Alesha needs to decide 'nice or nasty' - you can either throw the points around like candy and give the first 10 or you can be 'I'm just being honest' bitchy rude but do both and you come across as inconsistent and baffling. There's a great Garfield cartoon that says, 'People will forgive anything except inconsistency' and I'm interested in the people saying basically 'I'm upset because that isn't who I thought Alesha was'.

Len got grumpy in the last couple of years, probably jet lag, and when he gets nasty he's much more disliked for it than Craig is. You can see how ITT have cut back on him this year, and I think that's directly related to his getting more unpopular (jmo). Alesha hasn't got appearances on ITT to explain herself better, she's just got the show itself. If she decides if she's the celebs' friend or the catty/honest one who only gives marks over 7 when someone is brilliant then I think everyone will settle down again, but until she knows why she's there it's going to be difficult.

I don't think Alesha is being inconsistent. She gave her first ten, because she felt like that at that moment and a knowledge of the dance did not get in the way, she judged it on the impulse what an impression it made and not if it was perfect. She's not generous with her scores, she gave marks Len did not know existed, she's closer to Craig's marking than Len or Bruno. As for Craig K.'s cha cha cha, it was that bad that even she spotted that and again acted on an impulse. She told him bluntly how awful that was and that the better dancers had to go for him to get to Blackpool.