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Read my other post. Everything you have just said you have been told. You haven't witnessed any of it. I just don't believe everything I'm told.
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You're probably right that it's impossible for judgely collusion but it's just a weird sensation watching something unfold like last night.
Earlier in the day a couple of posters (me included ) said we expected far fewer tied scores because of the skewed voting sysem and then what do we get - no ties at all? Talk about Craig being delusional - last night I felt like Mystic Meg![]() I didn't actually notice there were no ties this week until it was pointed out on here tbh. A couple of things I did notice about this week was that the judges were much closer in their scores for each couple - there were no big differences like Len compensating for Craig RH's low scores. I'm not saying the judges aren't above fiddling with the scores, but it would take the form of an extra point for a couple they want to save - i.e. it is done on an individual basis and could be explained away! I do agree with soulmate61 that couples don't want to be dancing Latin if they are in danger - ballroom is much safer!
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Craig (as rubbish as he is) probably got the highest public vote tonight.
Remember, he'd been in the dance-off twice before, and had only avoided the dance-off once his "I just want to get to Blackpool" pleading started. As he'd reached Blackpool, I'd imagine his public votes would have dropped... Plus, the week after a "shock" result, the public often give us a "sensible" result. I would suggest that's what happened this week, rather than the fix theory. |
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Nah. The public saw what happened last week with that farcical dance-off situation, so this week voted accordingly.
Question are the Audiance allowed to vote . If not thats probably why he didnt get though as the whole of Blackpool was there to see him
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How I would love to be a fly on the wall as Flavia sums up her experience of dancing with Craig to her female pro dancer friends.
Just speculating whether this kind of thing might come up. "Most of the times we were on the ITT sofa, I might as well not have been there." "I couldn't get off that floor fast enough". "D'you think I laughed too much when he said he thought it went okay?" "Thank God that's over, except for the final of course. Oh well, it's only one day's training plus two minutes." "The tour? Only with Matt, cara, only with Matt." "God I wish I had Alesha's nerve!" |
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Read my other post. Everything you have just said you have been told. You haven't witnessed any of it. I just don't believe everything I'm told.
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Remember, he'd been in the dance-off twice before, and had only avoided the dance-off once his "I just want to get to Blackpool" pleading started. As he'd reached Blackpool, I'd imagine his public votes would have dropped...
Plus, the week after a "shock" result, the public often give us a "sensible" result. I would suggest that's what happened this week, rather than the fix theory. |
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It did cross my mind that Flavia decided not to do the tour just INCASE she had to dance with Craig again
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It did cross my mind that Flavia decided not to do the tour just INCASE she had to dance with Craig again
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Auntie Beeb definitely "fixed" it tonight
Craig (as rubbish as he is) probably got the highest public vote tonight - if he wasn't in the top 3 i'll sell my house and live off peanuts Beeb obviously couldn't stand the controversy and decided to arbitrarily dump Craig out Always wondered why they dont disclose the way the public vote - there's no plausible explaination other than making it possible to rig the vote - as they did tonight |
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I don't think that can be the case, would the BBC allow Craig to stay in the show while two good dancers battle it out in the dance off like last week.
The only "Fixing" going is down to the GBP, |
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Auntie Beeb definitely "fixed" it tonight
Craig (as rubbish as he is) probably got the highest public vote tonight - if he wasn't in the top 3 i'll sell my house and live off peanuts Beeb obviously couldn't stand the controversy and decided to arbitrarily dump Craig out Always wondered why they dont disclose the way the public vote - there's no plausible explaination other than making it possible to rig the vote - as they did tonight |
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If he was so rubbish the public wouldn't vote for him.
Look at John Seargeant.
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What makes you think that??
Look at John Seargeant. ![]() Sorry to burst your bubble, but comparisons with JS are massively wide of the mark. JS, whether you liked him or not, brought his personality to the dancefloor. Craig didn't. JS won plaudits for duelling with the judges. Craig did not. JS had a much bigger personality than Craig. Craig plainly had enough support to carry him through when there were tied places above him on the leader board and he wasn't scoring one point. However, when all the couples had different scores and he was left with one point, the public vote wasn't sufficiently strong to keep him in the competition - even after he'd been savaged by all four judges. You might claim, if you wanted, that the producers knew Craig could not survive with only one point from the judges and so briefed them to ensure there were no tied positions on the leader board. This would be nigh impossible for you to prove, however ... so I'd just accept what Flavia did: that Craig had been fortunate to make it to Blackpool and his luck ran out on Saturday. |
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You might claim, if you wanted, that the producers knew Craig could not survive with only one point from the judges and so briefed them to ensure there were no tied positions on the leader board. This would be nigh impossible for you to prove, however ... so I'd just accept what Flavia did: that Craig had been fortunate to make it to Blackpool and his luck ran out on Saturday.
If it's the latter, that means the judges have woken up to the power that collaboration gives them. The rest of the series could be like a chess match, with the judges aiming at a Jade/Ali/Ricky final, while the public try to get Chris in. |
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So, was the judges' scoring random last weekend, or was it a conspiracy?
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So, was the judges' scoring random last weekend, or was it a conspiracy.
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During the last six series, I'd say the judges do not conspire when it comes to scoring any celeb.
However, I do think each judge (perhaps with the exception of Craig), has on occasion decided on their own to mark a particular celeb up or down to assist their own personal favourite.
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Do we actually see the auditors? Do they publish the results, before or after the series has ended? Answer to both is no. Just because they tell you something doesn't mean its true.
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The great thing about conspiracy theories is that they are impossible to argue against or disprove because any counter arguement means you've obviously been hoodwinked by "them"
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So, was the judges' scoring random last weekend, or was it a conspiracy?
. 39, 35, 33, 33, 32, 30, 30, 29, 24, 24 = 3 ties & two of the best dancers in dance off This last week's range of scores: 40, 35, 34, 33, 31, 30, 28, 25, 17 = no ties & two of the weakest dancers in the dance off Conspiracy or coincidence - who knows? It will be interesting to see what happens this Saturday but, as has been pointed out, as the number of couples gets fewer, so the ties get diminish. |
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This last week's range of scores:
40, 35, 34, 33, 31, 30, 28, 25, 17 = no ties & two of the weakest dancers in the dance off |
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Auntie Beeb definitely "fixed" it tonight
Craig (as rubbish as he is) probably got the highest public vote tonight - if he wasn't in the top 3 i'll sell my house and live off peanuts Beeb obviously couldn't stand the controversy and decided to arbitrarily dump Craig out Always wondered why they dont disclose the way the public vote - there's no plausible explaination other than making it possible to rig the vote - as they did tonight I disagree entirely. The only thing which may have been a fix was him getting there in the first place. He should have been out the first time he was in the dance off. |
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I disagree entirely. The only thing which may have been a fix was him getting there in the first place. He should have been out the first time he was in the dance off.
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) said we expected far fewer tied scores because of the skewed voting sysem and then what do we get - no ties at all? Talk about Craig being delusional - last night I felt like Mystic Meg

. If not thats probably why he didnt get though as the whole of Blackpool was there to see him