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Old 08-11-2009, 15:42
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Beta test has started & testers will receive their update on USB stick, by courier, on 10th, 'filtering out in the public domain'
Presumably that is an acknowledgement that the update is highly likely to copied off one of those said USB sticks and uploaded to the net?
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Old 08-11-2009, 15:46
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Presumably that is an acknowledgement that the update is highly likely to copied off one of those said USB sticks and uploaded to the net?
If so it's a sneaky ploy by Humax to have their cake and eat it.

If the update is successful they can claim it was 'commonly' available from the tenth and if it fouls up people's boxes they can wash their hands of it and say people were using software that had not been officially released.
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Old 08-11-2009, 16:46
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If so it's a sneaky ploy by Humax to have their cake and eat it.

If the update is successful they can claim it was 'commonly' available from the tenth and if it fouls up people's boxes they can wash their hands of it and say people were using software that had not been officially released.
So cynical, don't you think the new firmware's out there under test already
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Old 08-11-2009, 16:51
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Bob_Cat,

A few questions regading upgrades to the HDR

Could you describe the update process for the HDR?

Will it require user intervention/acceptance?

How long does the process last?

What indicators ar there to show the process was sucessful (or otherwise!)?

What documentation will be available, post update?

Thanks

PJ
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Old 08-11-2009, 17:33
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Presumably that is an acknowledgement that the update is highly likely to copied off one of those said USB sticks and uploaded to the net?
Not off mine
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Old 08-11-2009, 17:35
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If so it's a sneaky ploy by Humax to have their cake and eat it.

If the update is successful they can claim it was 'commonly' available from the tenth and if it fouls up people's boxes they can wash their hands of it and say people were using software that had not been officially released.
Well yes, so they would be. Would you risk it?
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Old 08-11-2009, 17:43
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If an Olympic committee were to allow cynicism as a new Olympic sport, I'm certain that we'd have enough people here to form a team with reserves.
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Old 08-11-2009, 17:54
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If an Olympic committee were to allow cynicism as a new Olympic sport, I'm certain that we'd have enough people here to form a team with reserves.
Agree with you there!

Some of the things people are saying are insane.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:05
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Agree with you there!

Some of the things people are saying are insane.
To accuse your fellow forum members of insanity is a bit over the top I think.

Every person as the right to submit an opinion, it's called democracy. I'm also a cynic, I've seen deadlines come and go too often in my career not to be!

There's far to much name calling, it's getting nearly as bad as the licence fee debates in other threads!
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:07
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So cynical, don't you think the new firmware's out there under test already
Graham, if everything was above board and Humax were going to do a proper, official, release as PVR Junction suggests then why on earth do you suppose that Bob_Cat just ignored what was, at the time, just a minor puzzlement at the wording.

Had he not posted I wouldn't have thought anything was amiss but when he comes onto this thread and pointedly says nothing about the release (even when asked directly) I can't help but think 'There is something fishy in the state of Denmark'.

As I said I'll be delighted to have my doubts proven unfounded.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:09
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To accuse your fellow forum members of insanity is a bit over the top I think.

Every person as the right to submit an opinion, it's called democracy. I'm also a cynic, I've seen deadlines come and go too often in my career not to be!

There's far to much name calling, it's getting nearly as bad as the licence fee debates in other threads!
Quite.

I was not in the least cynical when I started this thread.

It was only the behaviour of the Humax bod that got me thinking.

If this was all 100% kosher why on earth would he not have said as much.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:13
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Graham, if everything was above board and Humax were going to do a proper, official, release as PVR Junction suggests then why on earth do you suppose that Bob_Cat just ignored what was, at the time, just a minor puzzlement at the wording.

Had he not posted I wouldn't have thought anything was amiss but when he comes onto this thread and pointedly says nothing about the release (even when asked directly) I can't help but think 'There is something fishy in the state of Denmark'.

As I said I'll be delighted to have my doubts proven unfounded.
Why should Bob respond directly to questions?

a He may not be here in any official capacity
b If not a, then he may be muted by his management
c 'Bob' may, indeed, be a nom de plume to maintain his annonimity
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:25
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People get annoyed when I say that Humax are 'unprofessional' but even when they do eventually say somethings it's all but unintelligible.
Not a bit annoyed, Tern. Happy as a pig in....

Talking of pig's, .....
I've been out for a walk on the farm, singing my little ditty:
If life seems jolly rotten
And the updates been forgotten
That's the time to laugh and dance and even sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Try not to get the humps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing!

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...
(With thanks to Eric Idle)

I know I've posted this before, but, what's a ditty without the music?
Here's a link to the Midi download.
(As always, be careful when downloading from a unknown source. I take no responsibility for any damage, etc., etc,...)

Go on, try it. Let's make this a Happy Thread.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:31
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Why should Bob respond directly to questions?
ROFLMAO!

But he did respond directly.

"Makes sense not being too committal until it is actually available."

He just didn't say anything useful on the topic.

I'm not stating that there is something untoward going on, just noting that with certain people suggesting that the wording means that Humax are expecting people to effectively pirate the update, and Humax not denying that stance, nothing is cut and dried.

Only someone rather naive and gullible would not ask why, if Humax were going to do an official release of the update they would have told a third party site rather than just putting the information on their website.

Anyway, I don't know why certain people are getting so antsy about it - we'll find out in a few days.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:33
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Go on, try it. Let's make this a Happy Thread.
Hey, I'll be on your team then.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:34
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Graham, if everything was above board and Humax were going to do a proper, official, release as PVR Junction suggests then why on earth do you suppose that Bob_Cat just ignored what was, at the time, just a minor puzzlement at the wording.

Had he not posted I wouldn't have thought anything was amiss but when he comes onto this thread and pointedly says nothing about the release (even when asked directly) I can't help but think 'There is something fishy in the state of Denmark'.

As I said I'll be delighted to have my doubts proven unfounded.
I think you are looking for mystery where there is none. Some members of the public will have the update on the 10th. (via USB), others will have to wait a while longer. At least you know it's coming soon.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:41
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Hey, I'll be on your team then.
Thank you. It's good to see a sense of fun/perspective.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:52
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I think you are looking for mystery where there is none. Some members of the public will have the update on the 10th. (via USB), others will have to wait a while longer. At least you know it's coming soon.
You may well be correct.

It could just be PVR junction who added the oddly worded 'filter out' statement.

Apparently Humax have said the release is with DTG.
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:53
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Thank you. It's good to see a sense of fun/perspective.
Well, I wasn't expecting anything to happen 'til the end of the year at the earliest so if this comes off I'll be very happy!
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Old 08-11-2009, 18:58
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Well, I wasn't expecting anything to happen 'til the end of the year at the earliest so if this comes off I'll be very happy!
Can I have an invite to the party , mines a magnum of champagne .
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:04
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Agree with you there!

Some of the things people are saying are insane.
Wholeheartedly agree.It's getting to the point where I dread coming on this board,same old whinging and whining.If people are that obsessed with small niggles etc or they don't like their product get something different..........Move on!
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:07
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Wholeheartedly agree.It's getting to the point where I dread coming on this board,same old whinging and whining.
So you decide to do a bit of wingeing and whining yourself.

The irony, oh, the irony!
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:08
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So you decide to do a bit of wingeing and whining yourself.

The irony, oh, the irony!
Lol.............
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:09
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So you decide to do a bit of wingeing and whining yourself.

The irony, oh, the irony!
Lol...................
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Old 08-11-2009, 19:10
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First time you have made me laugh Tern.
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