The thing is on ITT last night Flavia made two comments that really showed how unsupportive she was,and why she isnt cut out for a show like Strictly.First she said she had told Craig this was his last dance when they were in the dance off,showing no fight or faith in him atall.Flavia then said noone wants to be the couple who people don't want to be there.....then went on to say you want to be there because you deserve to be there.....meaning she didn't think Craig deserved to be there,to which even Craig replied...its a dance off and there is always a chance...I find Flavias attitude shocking,and she really has not got what it takes for a show like Strictly....she will not always get the best dancer,or even the best personality on a show like Strictly, and just turning up teaching the steps is not enough.

Only if you insist on regarding better dancers being kicked off ahead of less capable ones an injustice. Under the rules of the show it's perfectly justified.

For example, had Zoe survived, I would have been quite happy to see both Natalie C and Phil stay longer than her. I find both the latter more entertaining to watch even though they are not as good technically.

With Craig it's less easy to see as I didn't regard him as particularly entertaining and he's clearly a pretty crap dancer. However, others disagreed and voted him through. That's fair - you may not agree with it but under the terms of the show it's still fair.

Flavia said 'no one wants to be the dancers people don't want there,' in the context of saying 'In a way I was relieved,' I took that to mean in one way she was relieved, just one way, in another way she probably would have happily stayed in. I'm sure all the pros have such mixed feelings in those circumstances.

As far as I'm concerned they were obviously not going to get through the dance off and she was trying to be realistic with the 'last dance' comment.

We won't agree on this I know. Maybe one day Craig will put the matter straight and no one will have to debate it any more.

fair enough you think Flavia doesn't have what it takes to be on Strictly. juls In mine (and many others) opinion(s) she absolutely does.

Indeed she does. She is a fine dancer and teacher. And very classy.

Because why would she; the girl was glad to get rid; most relieved and who can blame her.

TBH all these comments show is that she is honest and candid. Im sure plenty of pros feel the same about their celeb... I bet Krsitina thought the same of JS... and also with Andrew castle/Kate garroway/Joe Calzhage etc...

I dont think these comments make her unsuitable for Strictly. Shes showing she has fortitude, shes teaching people with very different learning styles, she kept going with Craig for 10 weeks gallantly, shes always polite and extremely professional on the show and offf it.

A person who would be unsuitable for Strictly would be uncooperative, rude, obstinant and unprofessional IMO... NONE of which applies to Flav...

Shes prob not the first or last pro to turn up to SCD without enthusiasm for her partner...

The only comment for me that is a little bit suspect is the "you want to be there because you feel you deserve to be there" comment. If you take that at face value, then Flavia could have a problem in the future. This is the first series in which she's been partnered with a celeb who has stayed in because of reasons other than his dancing ability (apart from the quarter final in series 5 and anyone can take one free week when they've got a celeb with talent.) She didn't seem too comfortable with the role of popular but crap couple and it is one that professionals should be prepared to become accustomed to.

I can understand her viewpoint. It can't be nice when your career revolves around being the best dancer you can be to be kept in a show even though you are clearly the worst performers there. However, that is the nature of Strictly. I don't feel shocked at Flavia's comment(s), nor do I feel she was unsupportive but I would be interested to see how she reacts in future to staying in past her partnership's "sell by date" should she do so.

Its her first time and she's learning... she hasnt had years of middlers/crappy celeb partners like Anton who is used to it...

This is her 4th year in SCD and only the second time she has stayed in longer than 1 week...so this is a learning curve for her...

I know, I did say that . I'll be interested to see what effect this series has on her.

We also dont know what Flavia had to put up with in training , maybe Craig was equally deluded in training and thought he was learning it when he wasnt .

Flavia looked worn out and I dont blame her, Craig was a strange fish in my opinion .

And to be fair to her Craig was a bit of a one off in SCD history. There have been not so good dancers before...and then there is Craig. I wonder how he would have fared with someone like Erin or Ola

Excellent post - says it all perfectly.

And then there is Christopher Parker and Julian Clary.

I exclude JS because although he couldn't dance I couldn't help but admire the wit he brought to his time on SCD.

I believe he was very dry on Alan Titchmarsh this afternoon - unfortunately I missed it.

I think JS was head and shoulders above Craig. His ballroom was endearingly lovely (what was it Arlene said about his Waltz? Something about Pooh Bear...) and I really enjoyed the Foxtrot and American Smooth, which I thought just as good as the other dances those weeks.

Things just kind of fell apart in the latin, but he's not the first to be not very good at latin - and having said that, I'm never going to forget the Paso, what he lacked in skill, Kristina made up for in choreography and humour, and they both performed the intended dance superbly. The result was extremely funny and very entertaining, which is why people kept voting for him, they wanted to see more, what they'd do next. I felt totally robbed when he resigned.

Craig didn't even come close.

I get the impression that Flavia is there only because Vincent is.
Without her professional partner, what is she supposed to do?


This could be where the problem lay.

Perhaps Flavia wasn't realistic in her praise of him and because she was 'bigging' him up, he just didn't believe the Judges when they said he was a rubbish dancer.
He knew he wasn't the greatest (to say the least ) but Flavia's praise plus the public support were giving him mixed messages.
Even Matt D was there on VT giving them support.

It could be that's why Flavia wasn't vocal enough to the Judges, his perception that they were wrong was down to her not being realistic.

*Going back into hiding*

Hello. Just watched the end of BBC Breakfast News when I got home tonight (yes - sad - but I tape the end in case I miss something).

I have kinda fallen out of love with SCD, but catch the odd show. I don't know how good or bad Craig was
but the body language on the sofa between Flavia and Craig was palpable, especialy from Flavia. So much so it made me seek out this thread to see if anyone else had commented on it.

Can't spot a comment but apologise for duplicating if I have.

Did they really not get on?

JS was endearing on the dancefloor, especially in the early days, and entertaining off it.

Craig, well lives on planet Craig, although there are times when I would rather like to have some of what he's having.

Quite clearly he did - or he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.

JS appealed to me for very different reasons.

JS - crap dancer, but humourous and so erudite.

Had Alesha made the comments to JS that she made to Craig K - the former would surely have put her firmly in her place.

I'd have paid good money to see that.

Me too.

Oh yes, so would I.

As early as Week 3, Zoe and James scored 31 with her paso. Despite earning the 3rd highest judges' mark, her phone vote sent her sliding below 9 others into the dance-off along with Rav who scored 20 marks.

In Week 7 Zoe and James scored 32 with her samba (4th from top). Along with Ali Zoe slid past 4 other lower scorers into the dance-off, deja vu.

Zoe was not deprived by a malign conspiracy. For some reason not one but a host of celebs seemed to have more voter appeal than her. I like Zoe well enough, like a pretty and fanciable neighbour. It is up to Zoe to come to stage front and shine like a star and endear herself to the public, not fade into the quiet comfort at back of stage.

I didnt see anything to indicate they didnt get on as such, mind you Flavia is very reserved on tv, we don't see alot. On the otherhand she always seemed, to me, to be vaguely embarassed to have been saddled with the "dad dancer."

alesha needs to realise her position sometimes... but NO ONE in the SCD camp will say anything. I think they have recieved an edict!

BTW after one dance a couple of weeks ago Alesha gave a review of a dance, then when it was Bruno's turn next he said "Look, I know shes a nice girl but..." then stopped mid sentance, changed the topic and gave a less glowing review than Alesha...

was he about to say something then stopped himself?? (He didnt seem to be talking about the female pro btw..)

I don't follow. So just what is Alesha's 'position' then?

It is not the same as the other three judges?

I'd like to see the moment again you are referring to so, if you can think back we can try to find it. I don't recall anything like that and I find it hard to believe no one else spotted it, given how some people like to pick up on anything that shows Alesha in a bad light. I'm saying this because Bruno has stuck up for Alesha in the media and I'd be surprised if he said anything like that about her.

It wasnt this weeks strictly-either last week or the week befores....

Cant remember the couple.... it was a male celeb for def...