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The Twins are far far far far far more talented than....
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OffTheCuff
10-11-2009
Lloyd.

Why aren't people campaining to get him kicked-off.

He is talent-less on a world class scale and I dread to think he might make the final three.

I might have to emigrate to North Korea or somehwere cos I not sure I could survive that...
Fringo
10-11-2009
My little finger (which is currently paralysed and on a good day reckon my little finger would win on talent...)
Eurostar
10-11-2009
He is Jedward without the charisma or ability to entertain....I'm still amazed he stayed out of the bottom 2 last weekend.
chrisagw4
10-11-2009
I Agree.

John&Edward are better vocalists than Lloyd.

Both acts may not have the same vocals as the others but atleast the Twins make themselves watchable with their performances. Lloyd just stands and sings and it is not very nice to listen to. My opinions obviously, i know others will disagree.
Fringo
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“He is Jedward without the charisma or ability to entertain....I'm still amazed he stayed out of the bottom 2 last weekend.”

I'm not. Only because he was in the bottom two week before and that curries votes for the following but reckon he'll definitely be in there this.
Fringo
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by chrisagw4:
“I Agree.

John&Edward are better vocalists than Lloyd.

Both acts may not have the same vocals as the others but atleast the Twins make themselves watchable with their performances. Lloyd just stands and sings and it is not very nice to listen to. My opinions obviously, i know others will disagree.”

I'm no fan of Lloyd but he has more vocal ability than the boys.

They definitely have more entertainment ability (well it's hard not to when you're given so many gimmicks) but to say Lloyd, though weak, is worse than them IMO is quite ridiculous.
KatrinaK
10-11-2009
They're both awful imo.
ArtyAttack
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by Fringo:
“I'm no fan of Lloyd but he has more vocal ability than the boys.

They definitely have more entertainment ability (well it's hard not to when you're given so many gimmicks) but to say Lloyd, though weak, is worse than them IMO is quite ridiculous.”

I know. Lloyd is a far better vocalist than the twins but has far less showmanship on stage. He will have to learn how to fall over on stage and forget the words to the song and the dance routine before he is as good an 'entertainer' as the twins.
bluerose15
10-11-2009
Are you crazy?

The reason the twins may sound more in tune is cause
A) they have had songs that you talk or shout without it being a problem....no singing really needed
B) There is two of them meaning its less obvious if one messes up also they can mask each others vocals.

You put just john or just edward on stage with a song like "stand by me" and i can bet you lloyd will have done much better than they could have.
Jules 1
10-11-2009
Lloyd deserves to be there as he has never received the lowest number of votes. He is much better than the twins (IMO).
OffTheCuff
10-11-2009
Well it's been five weeks. I have heard Lloyd wail, screech, grate, mutter, stutter, but him sing? No I haven't heard that yet !

Twins were dire when they started but have improved in leaps and bounds.

Lloyd on the hand was shocking when he started but amazingly has been worse each week!
bluerose15
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by OffTheCuff:
“Well it's been five weeks. I have heard Lloyd wail, screech, grate, mutter, stutter, but him sing? No I haven't heard that yet !

Twins were dire when they started but have improved in leaps and bounds.

Lloyd on the hand was shocking when he started but amazingly has been worse each week!”

If you think lloyd cant sing at all you need help, of course the boy can sing as can J +E.

Im sure lloyd can sing better than you, he can certainly sing better than me or anyone i know.
_Zd_Phoenix_
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“I know. Lloyd is a far better vocalist than the twins but has far less showmanship on stage.”

I'd agree with that (the vocal coach was saying the twins can sing if they practised and she was given a chance to work with them, I think that'd be the end of them instantly, assuming they can survive beyond this point anyway).

But then Lucie's stage presence was poor too imo, and Simon had pointed out that he thought that before (before she cried and he had to be nice?). Her sing off was phoned in from a different galaxy all together (hope she had some free minutes!).
Fringo
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by OffTheCuff:
“Well it's been five weeks. I have heard Lloyd wail, screech, grate, mutter, stutter, but him sing? No I haven't heard that yet !

Twins were dire when they started but have improved in leaps and bounds.

Lloyd on the hand was shocking when he started but amazingly has been worse each week!”

Seriously you think Lloyd has done worse vocals than the twins?

I am yet to see the improvement in leaps and bounds. When have they actually held a tune and sang?

Lloyd is pretty rubbish but my lord he has a small ability to sing in key occasionally - never have I witnessed the twins do that.

They do talk in time pretty well - I'll give them that.
OffTheCuff
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“If you think lloyd cant sing at all you need help, of course the boy can sing as can J +E.

Im sure lloyd can sing better than you
, he can certainly sing better than me or anyone i know.”

what's that go to do with anything.

His version of "Cry me a River" had my puppy yelping in pain...
chrisagw4
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“If you think lloyd cant sing at all you need help, of course the boy can sing as can J +E.

Im sure lloyd can sing better than you, he can certainly sing better than me or anyone i know.”


I didn't mean to insinuate that Lloyd can't sing because he wouldn't be at the live shows if he couldn't..

but i don't really like his voice and think that he auditioned to early as i think he will have a beautiful voice in a couple of years. but good on the boy for following his dream

ohh your spot on there. i feel sorry for the people who have to endure me singing, im sure they would rather listen to Lloyd

but to sum up my post, I prefer John&Edward so i may be biased but i prefer their voices to Lloyd, but good for both of them for being so young and chasing their dream
mitacond
10-11-2009
I might be a good idea for Lloyd and the Twins to have and extra sing completion.
Just to see how could sing a particular song more melodically.
pink sparkle
10-11-2009
You are mad...how about J&E try that note Lloyd did in stand by me (and before you mention im fully aware it ended in a bad one) there is no way they would hit that note like Lloyd. I personally find the twins very entertaining and yes they make great saturday night viewing but they are nowhere near Lloyds singing ability thats just ridiculous. Who you trying to convince?!
OffTheCuff
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by pink sparkle:
“You are mad...how about J&E try that note Lloyd did in stand by me (and before you mention im fully aware it ended in a bad one) there is no way they would hit that note like Lloyd. I personally find the twins very entertaining and yes they make great saturday night viewing but they are nowhere near Lloyds singing ability thats just ridiculous. Who you trying to convince?!”

I pray B E King never has to sit through that "performance", Like I had to...
bluerose15
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by chrisagw4:
“I didn't mean to insinuate that Lloyd can't sing because he wouldn't be at the live shows if he couldn't..

but i don't really like his voice and think that he auditioned to early as i think he will have a beautiful voice in a couple of years. but good on the boy for following his dream

ohh your spot on there. i feel sorry for the people who have to endure me singing, im sure they would rather listen to Lloyd

but to sum up my post, I prefer John&Edward so i may be biased but i prefer their voices to Lloyd, but good for both of them for being so young and chasing their dream”

No thats fair enouugh
I think lloyd should have been told to come back in a few years as-well.

No thats fine you can prefer whosever voice you want...
bluerose15
10-11-2009
Originally Posted by pink sparkle:
“You are mad...how about J&E try that note Lloyd did in stand by me (and before you mention im fully aware it ended in a bad one) there is no way they would hit that note like Lloyd. I personally find the twins very entertaining and yes they make great saturday night viewing but they are nowhere near Lloyds singing ability thats just ridiculous. Who you trying to convince?!”

Best post

The twins could not hit a not like that
Patrick2772
11-11-2009
Originally Posted by bluerose15:
“If you think lloyd cant sing at all you need help, of course the boy can sing as can J +E.

Im sure lloyd can sing better than you, he can certainly sing better than me or anyone i know.”

Lloyd is actually shockingly bad. He has a really nice tone to his voice, but his vocal ability is really limited, which is a shame.

I think some better vocal training would work in his favour.

Originally Posted by pink sparkle:
“You are mad...how about J&E try that note Lloyd did in stand by me (and before you mention im fully aware it ended in a bad one) there is no way they would hit that note like Lloyd. I personally find the twins very entertaining and yes they make great saturday night viewing but they are nowhere near Lloyds singing ability thats just ridiculous. Who you trying to convince?!”

That note was 100% flat. Also, Lloyd can't use vibrato and therefore the note was unbearable to listen to (same problem I have with Danyl's "big" notes).
pookomoo
11-11-2009
Lloyd is really not good at all and should be out, but you people saying J/E are better vocalists need to wake the **** up. There is no one who even made boot camp who is even 1/10 as bad as J/E!!!! Understand that!!
Hogzilla
11-11-2009
Lloyd.

In fact their sing off last week was perfectly in tune. Lloyd hasn't managed that once.
bbean
11-11-2009
Originally Posted by OffTheCuff:
“Lloyd.

Why aren't people campaining to get him kicked-off.

He is talent-less on a world class scale and I dread to think he might make the final three.

I might have to emigrate to North Korea or somehwere cos I not sure I could survive that...”

The twins defo have something extra - extra charisma & likeability hence why they are still in the running. I hope they do well out of this show.

As for Lloyd, I hope he does well but in a career far away from the TV screens and the radio.
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