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Im still not liking Natalie Cassidy
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StrictlyRed
14-11-2009
They all want to improve and get better scores!

I guess we will have to agree that we disagree on this one. I like Natalie and her partnership with Vincent, but I realise that many people do not.

She and Ricky W certainly seem to be getting quite a lot of negative threads
drbolognaise
14-11-2009
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“She and Ricky W certainly seem to be getting quite a lot of negative threads ”

They do and it's a shame. I dont particularly have a dislike for her but those few examples Ive listed previously have disappointed me about her. I do think she thinks she is better than she actually is though, she has a bit of the Craig Kelly Syndrome Im afraid.
StrictlyRed
14-11-2009
"Craig Kelly Syndrome"!

You may have identified a new affliction which we will have to look out for in future contestants
drbolognaise
14-11-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“"Craig Kelly Syndrome"!

You may have identified a new affliction which we will have to look out for in future contestants”

Hey hey, its patented you know!!!

Its a common disease in the SCD world unfortunately. I think a lot of the people involved suffer with it.

A long term sufferer is the lead cameraman who persists in giving us those terrible camera angles despite thousands of complaints. Ive tried to persuade him to get some much-needed treatment but one of the aspects of Craig Kelly Syndrome is that they just cannot accept they have a problem.

Its a notoriusly difficult syndrome to treat and there have been no successfully cured sufferers as yet...
Stuckinthe70's
14-11-2009
I really liked Natalie at the start but each week I find I'm liking her a little less. She now seems to be coming across as needy and a bit desperate.
Dana
14-11-2009
I don't expect everyone to like the same celebs/partnerships.

Some of the nasty/personal jibes though are unecessary, but at least the "Syndrome" makes a change from the endless "Gate" which have become very boring.
drbolognaise
14-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dana:
“I don't expect everyone to like the same celebs/partnerships.

Some of the nasty/personal jibes though are unecessary, but at least the "Syndrome" makes a change from the endless "Gate" which have become very boring. ”


Indeed, if we have to find fault with the various contestants at least it should be done in a lighthearted way rather than with the nastypasty way its been done so far this series!
Bonnie96
14-11-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“They all want to improve and get better scores!
I guess we will have to agree that we disagree on this one. I like Natalie and her partnership with Vincent, but I realise that many people do not.

She and Ricky W certainly seem to be getting quite a lot of negative threads ”

Indeed they do and the whole point of the halfway vts is to highlight that - Natalie was one of eight who made the same comment only worded differently - it would be too boring for everyone to read the same statement
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“Hey hey, its patented you know!!!

Its a common disease in the SCD world unfortunately. I think a lot of the people involved suffer with it.

A long term sufferer is the lead cameraman who persists in giving us those terrible camera angles despite thousands of complaints. Ive tried to persuade him to get some much-needed treatment but one of the aspects of Craig Kelly Syndrome is that they just cannot accept they have a problem.

Its a notoriusly difficult syndrome to treat and there have been no successfully cured sufferers as yet...”

Does the guy in the shorts still run round the floor after the dancers? That drove me mad last year when I watched the fixed camera videos on the SCD site and there he was bobbing away

A very obvious malady when you read through the threads.

Still, I have faith that a cure will be found in the next 5 weeks
StrictlyRed
14-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“Indeed, if we have to find fault with the various contestants at least it should be done in a lighthearted way rather than with the nastypasty way its been done so far this series!”

Not only new afflictions, but new words too
drbolognaise
14-11-2009
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Not only new afflictions, but new words too”

What can I say, I love to rhyme!
Glinny
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Stuckinthe70's:
“I really liked Natalie at the start but each week I find I'm liking her a little less. She now seems to be coming across as needy and a bit desperate.”

My thoughts exactly! Desparado!
Maestra
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“The clue is it was a fitness DVD - not advocating extreme dieting but exercise.
To my mind it is more moronic to be unable to distinguish between the two”

You're so wrong. People with food disorders are hardly going to be rational when listening to someone bragging about their weight loss. She was irresponsible and she is so self-promoting and fake I can't believe you're taken in by her.
Bhoy1888
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Stuckinthe70's:
“I really liked Natalie at the start but each week I find I'm liking her a little less. She now seems to be coming across as needy and a bit desperate.”

Yes I got to agree.I have never really liked her as I always found her a bit false but at the start I thought I would give her a chance bu now I am string to revert back to my original opinion of her
Rhumbatugger
19-11-2009
I think Natalie is a damned trouper. She has seriously improved, week on week, she tries damned hard and has achieved a great deal.

I don't think either of them expect to be in the final, but they're giving it their damn all.

Good on them.

Laila and Ricky AT LEAST should be out before Natalie. That foxtrot may not have flowed, but it was a very, very good dance, very well done her.
Bonnie96
19-11-2009
Originally Posted by Maestra:
“You're so wrong. People with food disorders are hardly going to be rational when listening to someone bragging about their weight loss. She was irresponsible and she is so self-promoting and fake I can't believe you're taken in by her.”

Trust me, I'm taken in by no one.

I believe my own eyes and ears and having been on the weight loss/gain see-saw myself, I know where she (Natalie) is coming from including the euphoria when you think you have it under control and the devastation when it all goes wrong.

She's on the right track just now and all due praise to her - that Foxtrot last week was lovely.
scorpio20080
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I think Natalie is a damned trouper. She has seriously improved, week on week, she tries damned hard and has achieved a great deal.

I don't think either of them expect to be in the final, but they're giving it their damn all.

Good on them.

Laila and Ricky AT LEAST should be out before Natalie. That foxtrot may not have flowed, but it was a very, very good dance, very well done her.”

I disagree with you there. Are you talking about Ricky G? If so then yes, he's not as good as Natalie. But Laila is much much better than Natalie. Atleast in the ballroom dances if not Latin (which I think is partly due to Anton)..
katkim
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by Stuckinthe70's:
“I really liked Natalie at the start but each week I find I'm liking her a little less. She now seems to be coming across as needy and a bit desperate.”

Agree, I quite liked her at the start - her joy and eagerness about being on the show and dancing was endearing, but now when I watched her VTs I'm always thinking 'chill out, Natalie'.
katmobile
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“They do and it's a shame. I dont particularly have a dislike for her but those few examples Ive listed previously have disappointed me about her. I do think she thinks she is better than she actually is though, she has a bit of the Craig Kelly Syndrome Im afraid.”

I agree I liked her at first but the fact she's starting to be over-marked and believe she can win this is putting me off her. Like Monkseal I think she should have gone instead of Tuffers at the weekend.
EyeLikeBeer
20-11-2009
I want Natalie to win. I like her and her dancin
Abbasolutely 40
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“They do and it's a shame. I dont particularly have a dislike for her but those few examples Ive listed previously have disappointed me about her. I do think she thinks she is better than she actually is though, she has a bit of the Craig Kelly Syndrome Im afraid.”


I think her syndrome has been excellerated by the judges , they failed to address the symptoms from week one , they allowed the clumpy foot issue to grow

She was misdiagnosed for weeks and the judges thought bouncy and bubbly meant she was improving .
They have never really spoken about her afflictions and skirted around her diagnoses . They allowed it to be continued , allowing her clumpiness to multiply and now I see a poor prognosis due to failure to deal with the initial presenting factors .
Rhumbatugger
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by scorpio20080:
“I disagree with you there. Are you talking about Ricky G? If so then yes, he's not as good as Natalie. But Laila is much much better than Natalie. Atleast in the ballroom dances if not Latin (which I think is partly due to Anton)..”

Laila is a good ballroom dancer, but her Latin is terrible, she won't make it.

And it's not down to Anton in my opinion.
EmilyIRE
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Laila is a good ballroom dancer, but her Latin is terrible, she won't make it.

And it's not down to Anton in my opinion.”

Her paso was pretty good. Her jive wasn't great, but then again, neither was Natalie's. I'd put them about on the same level in the latin but Laila is a far superior ballroom dancer. The training footage of Laila's rumba looked pretty good last week too, she had the correct hip action. Natalie's samba training, on the other hand, looks abysmal and I'll be very surprised if she pulls out a good routine by Saturday. Of course, the judges will probably ignore all the faults and tell her she was brilliant because she's bubbly and enthusiastic.
Rhumbatugger
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by EmilyIRE:
“Her paso was pretty good. Her jive wasn't great, but then again, neither was Natalie's. I'd put them about on the same level in the latin but Laila is a far superior ballroom dancer. The training footage of Laila's rumba looked pretty good last week too, she had the correct hip action. Natalie's samba training, on the other hand, looks abysmal and I'll be very surprised if she pulls out a good routine by Saturday. Of course, the judges will probably ignore all the faults and tell her she was brilliant because she's bubbly and enthusiastic.”

Yes, Laila's paso was pretty good. I don't agree about the Rhumba though, I don't think any of it was convincing.

I wanted to like Laila very much, and I've given her chance after chance, but I really just don't - I don't think she really tries and she seems a nightmare to train. I also thought she milked it rather on Saturday, and came across as begging for the sympathy vote, so I admit a bit of personal disaffection.

Natalie does have her work cut out doing the Samba - I think it's a tough dance and could go badly. As for her enthusiasm and effort - that's genuine I think.
EmilyIRE
20-11-2009
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Yes, Laila's paso was pretty good. I don't agree about the Rhumba though, I don't think any of it was convincing.

I wanted to like Laila very much, and I've given her chance after chance, but I really just don't - I don't think she really tries and she seems a nightmare to train. I also thought she milked it rather on Saturday, and came across as begging for the sympathy vote, so I admit a bit of personal disaffection.

Natalie does have her work cut out doing the Samba - I think it's a tough dance and could go badly. As for her enthusiasm and effort - that's genuine I think.”

I don't think Laila's rumba was anyway good on the night, but I think that was due to the pain she was in, I thought the training footage looked very promising though - basic figures done well.

I do agree that Natalie's enthusiasm and effort is genuine, I have liked her as a person on the show, it's just her dancing that is terrible. I'm starting to dislike her based on the overmarking and her believing that she is a good dancer and deserves 9s and 8s. In fairness to her, the judges are telling her she's great so it's easy enough to understand why she's convinced she can dance.
samiskim
20-11-2009
Unfortunately Natalie Cassidy believes in her own publicity and a terminal sufferer from The Craig Kelly Syndrome - so much so she permanently lives in Nee Naw Land. The sooner she is booted off the show, the better.

I am absolutely sick of her so-called enthusiasm. It is amazing she hasn't given Vincent a migraine with all her yap, yap, yapping. She is a loud, over-the-top luvvie who has about as much grace on the dance floor as a rhinoceros.
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