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Why Do Some People On This Forum Hate Modern Music So Much?
I've been reading a lot of the comments from some the members on the music forum concerning, current music and I am amazed at how people hate current music so much.
I mean, I'm ok with people disliking certain types of music, because music is subjective, but seriously some of you come across as real music snobs..... it is quite patronising. I love music, I think it's great and think that in all decades you have your good and bad music. I like a wide range of music from Rihanna to Andy Williams, Florence and the Machine to Billy Holiday, Lady GaGa to the Supremes and so on. I think instead of moaning about how awful music is in the Top 40 we should understand that people have different likes and dislikes and yes, we can express our opinion but we shouldn't do it in such a way were we are looking down on someone's musical taste. We should just agree to disagree, to put it frankly. Some people talk about the Top 40 like it was the source of great, magnifcent music until 2003 and all of sudden all this horrible ''modern music'' came in and poluted the charts thus destroying music. The truth is, the charts is about popularity and it has never been a source of ''great music''. Yes sometimes good music, (whatever your idea of that is) is popular, but you need to use the internet to your advantage and search out good music. You cannot use the Top 40 as a source to find your idea of good music because what a bunch of thousands of people or so, who buy music as soon as it comes out like may not be to your taste. The main consumers of Top 40 music are teenagers, young people etc, and this mainly the music they know. As they grow older they'll mature and devlop their music tastes so it will be more defined and time will tell wherther the music they love now they'll love in ten years time. People of an older generation will probably not like music of today because if differs completly from the music they grew up with and music they knew and loved which is fine. However, this is your opinion. Music evolves, and changes as the years and decades go by and what was commercial in 1960 is not be commercial in 2009. As music devlops, new genres are discovered, new voices are heard and music technology moves foward and improves, and music will evolve for the good and the bad. Therefore music will obviously not be like music of the past. I know some people love music of the past, (I love music of the past too as I feel it helped to create to music of today) but we cannot look to past and keep on comparing music of today with the music of past. It is a pointless excersise and it is all subjective and just ends up being a rather biased, discussion and another oppurtunity about having a moan about modern music. People, moan about the X Factor and how it is ''destroying music'' - well yes it isn't the best thing ever and is not as great as Cowell makes it out to be but at least in terms of vocals it is finding genuine talent (excluding John & Edward of course). Look at Leona Lewis, Alexandra Burke, and JLS. While they may not be to liking musically (Leona a bit dull for me I only like Happy, Bad Boys is overplayed as is Beat Again and Everybody in Love) at least they are genuine talent in terms of the fact they can sing, which is more than we can say about some people.....etc Katy Perry. However in terms, of nuturing and devloping musical individuality and creativity, the X Factor falls down, as it focuses far too much on entertainment value and vocals, than ensuring each contestant's talent can be devloped so they have a chance at being an artist with longevity. Cowell is also interested in money and viewers more than what really matters so the show will never really improve and change from what it is an entertainment show. It is easy to moan about XF but it is hyprocritical in the same breathe to then moan about about people ''who can't sing''. I'm don't love all of the Top 40 music, if anything I like about 10 songs in Top 40 right now max, but I think being a music snob is not called for, and we need to respect others musically tastes, wherther it is in the Top 40 or not. Sorry if I go on a bit but I wanted to put another perspective foward.
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I mean, I'm ok with people disliking certain types of music, because music is subjective, but seriously some of you come across as real music snobs..... it is quite patronising.
See now, when you start with that in your FIRST paragraph of an otherwise too long post, that is where I stop reading the rest of your post through being insulted already. I will just add though, that EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion on music (and everything else), and if someone such as myself were to say that there have only been a small handful of artists since the early 90s that I find listenable then I say it BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I FEEL. I AM a musician, and I LOVE tons of music from the 40s through to the 70s, and some 80s. Since the advent of electronic music, and more-so DANCE music with it's horrendous repeated rhythm which means every song sounds the same, it has given rise to the belief amongst most buyers and makers of music that melody and substance are unimportant in favour of a 'banging beat'. Furthermore, no-one has to justify why they like or dislike anything. I dislike 'modern music' but I am fully prepared to allow you to like it - it's called live and let live. No need to insult people. |
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some people just love to generalise everything. many want to live in the past and can't accept that things change. there's always good stuff out there, whether it's in the charts or not.
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See now, when you start with that in your FIRST paragraph of an otherwise too long post, that is where I stop reading the rest of your post through being insulted already.
I will just add though, that EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion on music (and everything else), and if someone such as myself were to say that there have only been a small handful of artists since the early 90s that I find listenable then I say it BECAUSE THAT IS HOW I FEEL. I AM a musician, and I LOVE tons of music from the 40s through to the 70s, and some 80s. Since the advent of electronic music, and more-so DANCE music with it's horrendous repeated rhythm which means every song sounds the same, it has given rise to the belief amongst most buyers and makers of music that melody and substance are unimportant in favour of a 'banging beat'. Furthermore, no-one has to justify why they like or dislike anything. I dislike 'modern music' but I am fully prepared to allow you to like it - it's called live and let live. No need to insult people. You should read things more carefully before jumping to conclusions. |
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for me personally its because it lacks any substance and each year the music is getting more dumbed down.
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I have to say that I sort of agree with the OP. I hate people who bang on about how great their era of music was and how everything today isnt worthy, but at the same time, I also hate it when people only like modern stuff and think anything over 5 years old isnt worth a listen. Add to that the genre snobs who think anything outside their favourite type of music is inferior.
I personally love all types of music, and I think this decade, particularly this year, has been great for new music. I also love stuff from the 70's and 80's and anything from pop, rock or indie to hip hop, dance or folk. |
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How did I insult people? I said people were allowed to like what they like but that some people come across as music snobs.
You should read things more carefully before jumping to conclusions. Do you not think I would have just been happy to answer if you had just asked politely 'why do some people not like modern music?' There was no need to bring insults into it. It's pure alienation. |
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I have to say that I sort of agree with the OP. I hate people who bang on about how great their era of music was and how everything today isnt worthy, but at the same time, I also hate it when people only like modern stuff and think anything over 5 years old isnt worth a listen. Add to that the genre snobs who think anything outside their favourite type of music is inferior.
I personally love all types of music, and I think this decade, particularly this year, has been great for new music. I also love stuff from the 70's and 80's and anything from pop, rock or indie to hip hop, dance or folk. Another good thing about modern life is it's actually reintroducing some older music into new generations. Journeys Don't Stop Believin', released in 1981, never reached the Top 40 until last week. The X Factor isn't killing music, it's rejuvenating it! |
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people have been knocking 'modern music' as long as i can remember, and that stretches back to the 60's.... there is a perception that 'current' music is never as good as old music, of course, by and large there has always been 'good' and 'bad' music.
one criticism though that one CAN level at todays music is that it is pretty much unoriginal, drawing heavily on the various styles MY generation created!
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I don't know. Personally, I like mostly modern music and it is all Top 40. I don't care about what others say about the Top 40. It's not all crap. I also like some older songs from the 70's and 80's - Prince, Michael Jackson and Madonna.
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Calling someone a snob and accusing them of being patronising IS insulting people just because they have different taste to you. Like I said, I read that first paragraph and you lost me.
Do you not think I would have just been happy to answer if you had just asked politely 'why do some people not like modern music?' There was no need to bring insults into it. It's pure alienation. I'm not insulting people for liking music of the past, if you bothered to read the rest of post, instead of just a paragraph a mis interpreting that you'd know I was being critical of those who look down upon those who like and buy modern music aswell as the music itself. Those who just simply don't like modern music, I don't mind and respect their viewpoint. This is clear in my post. If need be I willl highlight points in my post to prove my point. |
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You clearly haven't read my post properly. In my post I stated that it's fine having disliking certain types of music etc modern music, but that some posters, talk about modern music in an extermely disrespectful tone, and they act as if no one should like it.
I'm not insulting people for liking music of the past, if you bothered to read the rest of post, instead of just a paragraph a mis interpreting that you'd know I was being critical of those who look down upon those who like and buy modern music aswell as the music itself. Those who just simply don't like modern music, I don't mind and respect their viewpoint. This is clear in my post. If need be I willl highlight points in my post to prove my point. This annoys me especially because I really like to delve into and discover music before my time as well as what is around currently. I can appreciate the older music, so why can't they appreciate or at least respect some of todays music. I'm not just talking about what's in the charts either, thats only the tip of the modern musical iceberg. |
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PP, I completely under where your coming from. It really annoys me when certain posters put down music of this decade and the last with big sweeping statements like "musics not what it was in my day" or the "young people these days don't know what they missed out on not being around in the 60's"
This annoys me especially because I really like to delve into and discover music before my time as well as what is around currently. I can appreciate the older music, so why can't they appreciate or at least respect some of todays music. I'm not just talking about what's in the charts either, thats only the tip of the modern musical iceberg. Like I've said I love music from all decades and I feel we should apperciate music from everyone's generation. I really annoys me when some people generalise things, and judge modern music based on the top 40 and act as if that's the face of modern musically enterily. Some music is good in the charts, some isn't and thats the way it has always been. I don't see why this decade is such an exception. |
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Why does it matter to anyone else? If they don't like it, they don't like it. It doesn't mean you can't enjoy it yourself.
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Modern music FTW!!
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prehaps because the vast majority of Modern Music is uninspired, mass-produced garbage created with the sole purpose of making money. dont get me wrong, there are some real gems out there right now, and i dont think we appreciate those as much as we should, but the majority of recent music bores me to tears
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prehaps because the vast majority of Modern Music is uninspired, mass-produced garbage created with the sole purpose of making money. dont get me wrong, there are some real gems out there right now, and i dont think we appreciate those as much as we should, but the majority of recent music bores me to tears
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What jeymz and Ivor Biggun said.
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The problem is that Sony BMG own mostly everything now. For every track released to the charts they pull in their demographics experts to mould the track or album so that it sells. That way everything is safe. You see............thats the problem. Safe! Commercial music is so controlled now that it is hard for personality to shine through. Of course not all music is commercial........thank god for the internet....but the only music having promotional backing is crap like Cheryl Cole etc....
The last big revolution in music was probably punk....................time for a new one I think. |
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prehaps because the vast majority of Modern Music is uninspired, mass-produced garbage created with the sole purpose of making money. dont get me wrong, there are some real gems out there right now, and i dont think we appreciate those as much as we should, but the majority of recent music bores me to tears
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Modern music is just basically the same one beat as I call it and anyway most modern music is shite.
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Music has become more "perfected", and appeals to what people like to hear and are attracted to. I generally don't listen to music before I was born other than Michael Jackson, and don't really listen to much from the early 90's other than Mariah Carey. Some Bryan Adams here and there too. But generally I opt for what people here like to call "modern music". I'm more of a fan of vocals and vocal melodies over music, there's not much actual music I admire, and other than maybe 2 classical pure music pieces I couldn't ever listen to music alone. Maybe that's because I can sing along, but I can't play an instrument along to the music, I like to be able to engage with a song.
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More so now modern music is more about image. Most of the women, but not all, are pretty attractive. You rarely if ever now see female singers in the charts who are like Mama Cass or Alison Moyet, big women who can sing. They use the image of the singer to sell the product.
Personally I find modern music, for me pretty much everything after 1995, and certainly 99% of stuff after 2000 is garbage. There is no soul to the music it doesn't tell you story while I can see why some like it, it something I don't like. Lady GaGa while she has certainly brought new life to the charts she stole a lot of her identity from David Bowie, but good luck to her. Music will and laways has been a fickle thing for people, you will have your classical groupies who call anything other than classical a noise. Your rockers think dance is rubbish and has no merit, and I will agree with that. But the dance music industry whetehr you like it or not is big business it helps employ an awful lot of people for the clubs the DJ's so there must be something in it for it to be that popular, so we can all put our toys back in our prams and agree to disagree. Can't we? |
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some people just love to generalise everything. many want to live in the past and can't accept that things change. there's always good stuff out there, whether it's in the charts or not.
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It might just be nostalgia :O I love modern music tho, especially the man "who killed rap", Lil Wayne
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