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Strictly Come Dancing Week 9 Discussion Thread; 14th November 2009 (6:50pm - 8:30pm)
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swnymor1963
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by englishwhistler:
“Does anyone know what this music is from last nights Strictly?

http://bbc.co.uk/i/nzxbr/?t=6m26s

Thanks!!”

Originally Posted by Starpuss:
“It's from the soundtrack of 28 Days Later”

Sh*t.....Lets hope she`s not been infected with the rage virus.
swnymor1963
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“I'm sorry, but Jade should not be allowed to carry on. How can you miss one round of a knockout competetion through injury, yet stay in it ???

It would be like Federer v Murray at Wimbledon. Federer pulls out through injury, yet makes it through to the last round.............at Murray's expense.

The show is verging on the ridiculous now. It would be a total farce if Jade is allowed back in the competetion as though nothing has happened

And before anyone jumps in, I have nothing at all against Jade. I would say the same if it happened to anyone”

It`s a TV show....and it is fair because everyone is made aware of the rules when they sign up.....Anyway if her knee has popped she wont be dancing next week as her athletics career is far more important to her than appearing on Strictly and she wont be doing anything that might exacerbate her injury....I`am just a little miffed we may have yet another 2 man/woman final....The BBC can`t let this happen again.....So it`s either a vote to allow Phil/Graig or Zoe back onto the show...or more likely the judges votes are carried over and no one is eliminated next week.
Liparus
15-11-2009
Wel it does not look like jade will be back according to this. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...y-come-dancing
Lizzie8008
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Why do you think that?

She was dressed, made up, hair done etc. and ready to go.”

Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I think Lizzie meant that if Jade hadn't been injured then LAILA would have pulled out. Suggesting that Laila didn't want to pull out because they were already one person down.”

Yep, that's what i meant. I don't think Laila felt she could pull out this week with Jade on the bench and all of the other problems this week. Especially as the doctors said she could dance on it (pain notwithstanding) and that so many other people had injuries and carried on. But obviously it was still too painful. Such a horrible position to be in.

I'm so gutted for Jade and sad that we'll probably not see her dance again. I really wanted her to win. Just hope there are no lasting repercussions for her career.
gerry d
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“So, this is now a personality contest, not a dancing contest.”

Have you only just realized this?.How do you think John Sergeant lasted as long as he did?.
Ignazio
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“Afternoon my bit of DS totty <smooooooooooooooch!>

I totally agree with you regarding both Natalie & Chris (and I said as much on their Appreciation Threads !!).

They are my favourites, but the 9's they were awarded were just silly.

Len and Alesha have made a mockery of the scoring this year.”

Smooch accepted and returned Sid. xxxxx

It's all hypothetical but I can't help wondering if Jade and Ian's tango would have lived up to its promise.
-Sid-
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Smooch accepted and returned Sid. xxxxx

It's all hypothetical but I can't help wondering if Jade and Ian's tango would have lived up to its promise.”

I think their Tango would have been scintillating.

It was one of the dances I was most looking forward to last night (I love the Duran Duran track Ian chose).

So I was bitterly disappointed when they revealed Jade had to pull out.

I wish her a speedy recovery - I really hope this isn't the end of her Strictly experience. That would be so depressing.

I'm sure, being an ardent fan of hers, you're absolutely gutted - and I'm sorry about what's happened to your favourite
arddunol
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“It`s a TV show....and it is fair because everyone is made aware of the rules when they sign up.....Anyway if her knee has popped she wont be dancing next week as her athletics career is far more important to her than appearing on Strictly and she wont be doing anything that might exacerbate her injury....I`am just a little miffed we may have yet another 2 man/woman final....The BBC can`t let this happen again.....So it`s either a vote to allow Phil/Graig or Zoe back onto the show...or more likely the judges votes are carried over and no one is eliminated next week.”

If I recall correctly , Kate Garraway was allowed a week off .

And don't the rules allow , now, for the last eliminated celebrity to come back if another drops out ?
I assume Phil and Katya would come back next week.

I had a similar knee injury a couple of years ago . I stepped up on a chair to get something out of the cupboard and I heard something go in my knee .
It was excruciating.
I walked with a stick for several weeks , though I did manage to drive the car after 5 days, and it was literally weeks before I could walk downhill or downstairs .
Ignazio
15-11-2009
Quote:
“Originally Posted by knawtitypaos

No, I never waste my time, effort and money voting”

Quote:
“It just seems grossly unfair that both are through and Tuffers goes home”

Well if you're not prepared to put your money where your mouth is you're not really in a position to complain about eliminations etc.
mindyann
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by arddunol:
“If I recall correctly , Kate Garraway was allowed a week off .

And don't the rules allow , now, for the last eliminated celebrity to come back if another drops out ?
I assume Phil and Katya would come back next week.

I had a similar knee injury a couple of years ago . I stepped up on a chair to get something out of the cupboard and I heard something go in my knee .
It was excruciating.
I walked with a stick for several weeks , though I did manage to drive the car after 5 days, and it was literally weeks before I could walk downhill or downstairs .”

I think (memory hazy) that the dance Kate missed was the first week group dance, when the couples were split male/female for the scoring dances? The men danced for the competition and the girls just did a group number and that's what she missed. I don't think she missed a 'scoring' dance?
-Sid-
15-11-2009
I wish all the couples had received a free pass to next week.

It would have been a fitting gesture after what was a rather strange and very depressing show.

I don't think the public would have kicked up a fuss. The money generated from votes could have been given to charity or refunded.
SCD_Angel
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“It`s a TV show....and it is fair because everyone is made aware of the rules when they sign up.....Anyway if her knee has popped she wont be dancing next week as her athletics career is far more important to her than appearing on Strictly and she wont be doing anything that might exacerbate her injury....I`am just a little miffed we may have yet another 2 man/woman final....The BBC can`t let this happen again.....So it`s either a vote to allow Phil/Graig or Zoe back onto the show...or more likely the judges votes are carried over and no one is eliminated next week.”


I may be wrong, but when John Sargent pulled out last year, did they not continue to have eliminations and when they got to the semi-final they went to the 'moment of truth' and then announced that everyone was through to the final and all votes would be carried over?

In which case if Jade has to pull out they could easily do this again so they have 3 finalists.
tabithakitten
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by SCD_Angel:
“I may be wrong, but when John Sargent pulled out last year, did they not continue to have eliminations and when they got to the semi-final they went to the 'moment of truth' and then announced that everyone was through to the final and all votes would be carried over?

In which case if Jade has to pull out they could easily do this again so they have 3 finalists.”

They did do that but everyone getting through to the final had nothing to do with John Sergeant's departure!
mindyann
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by SCD_Angel:
“I may be wrong, but when John Sargent pulled out last year, did they not continue to have eliminations and when they got to the semi-final they went to the 'moment of truth' and then announced that everyone was through to the final and all votes would be carried over?

In which case if Jade has to pull out they could easily do this again so they have 3 finalists.”

That was mainly due to the local ... difficulty ... with the mathamatics of the situation they found themselves in
See
15-11-2009
They only put all three semi finalists into the final because of the tied at the top thing and Tom couldn't be saved from the dance off. I think the BBC will be more organised this year and have a clear plan about what they'll do. I wonder if they'll bring back the highest scoring eliminated couple - would that be Zoe and James
drbolognaise
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“This comment puzzles me - what did I post that suggests I'm judging Ricky by different standards to anyone else?

I know he's your favourite - but sometimes you are a little oversensitive to criticism of him. We all have opinions and all are equally valid.

I did notice that he mentioned Jade (I actually thought he was the only one) and I thought it kind and considerate of him.”


Sorry it was a general comment to the hypocritical Ricky Bashers on here Ignazio, not to you.

I dont think Im oversensitive. If your favourite was getting ripped to shreds about some really silly things on here then I think you would be unhappy about it. I think a lot of the things said about Ricky are very distasteful and does spoil my enjoyment of posting on here. I was the same last year about Rachel and Lisa - and I was a Tom fan. I just dont think it is necessary. So Im not being oversensitive, Im just trying to defend a person who hasnt done anything so bad to deserve whats being said about him on here. Its the same with Natalie Cassidy. I dont like her, but Im not ripping her to shreds and keep making pointed comments about her weight like a lot of others do. I do think she is overmarked and stuff but Im still happy to allow her supporters to extol her virtues on here without jumping on their backs or calling them names.
Ignazio
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“Sorry it was a general comment to the hypocritical Ricky Bashers on here Ignazio, not to you.

I dont think Im oversensitive. If your favourite was getting ripped to shreds about some really silly things on here then I think you would be unhappy about it. I think a lot of the things said about Ricky are very distasteful and does spoil my enjoyment of posting on here. I was the same last year about Rachel and Lisa - and I was a Tom fan. I just dont think it is necessary. So Im not being oversensitive, Im just trying to defend a person who hasnt done anything so bad to deserve whats being said about him on here. Its the same with Natalie Cassidy. I dont like her, but Im not ripping her to shreds and keep making pointed comments about her weight like a lot of others do. I do think she is overmarked and stuff but Im still happy to allow her supporters to extol her virtues on here without jumping on their backs or calling them names.”

I do understand - and today I've been staggered at the lack of sympathy directed toward Jade and the injury which could threaten her Olympic chances in London 2012. Not only that, but the insinuations that Laila faked her injury beggared belief.

I too defend my favourite(s) - but God forbid that it should be at the expense of logic and rationale.

I think perhaps we've found some common ground.
drbolognaise
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I do understand - and today I've been staggered at the lack of sympathy directed toward Jade and the injury which could threaten her Olympic chances in London 2012. Not only that, but the insinuations that Laila faked her injury beggared belief.

I too defend my favourite(s) - but God forbid that it should be at the expense of logic and rationale.

I think perhaps we've found some common ground.”

*smiles* Thanks Ignazio. I do try to be as logical and rational as I can but this place can do strange things to people.

Ive not been on here much today but have also been disgusted re: Jade and Laila. Some people on here really need to rethink their attitude because I am increasingly horrified by the nastiness and schadenfreude exhibited on this forum.

I just want to talk about the pretty dresses, The Claudia and THE DANCING!!!!
StrictlyRed
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“*smiles* Thanks Ignazio. I do try to be as logical and rational as I can but this place can do strange things to people.

Ive not been on here much today but have also been disgusted re: Jade and Laila. Some people on here really need to rethink their attitude because I am increasingly horrified by the nastiness and schadenfreude exhibited on this forum.

I just want to talk about the pretty dresses, The Claudia and THE DANCING!!!! ”

Just wanted to say how much I agree with this. I've read a little of what you are talking about and it's just awful. Jade and Laila didn't deliberately injure themselves, for goodness sake.

Same with Rcky W and Natalie C, some of the comments are just so spiteful.
englishwhistler
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Starpuss:
“It's from the soundtrack of 28 Days Later”

Thanks muchly - been trying to find out what this music is for months!!

Cheers
katmobile
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by ForerroRocher:
“It was an alright Jive, but I've seen better, and mentioning Austin is mean . Still not over it.”

After his comments about Lisa mid last week Len couldn't be doing anymore to remind of us why we think the judges talk out of their posteriors on occasion - way to go mate
katmobile
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by ElectraPalatine:
“Handsome in glasses? Ricky G looks like a middle ranking pen pusher!”

But a cute one - he looks like Harry Palmer when he was played by a young Micheal Caine - me like
swnymor1963
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by drbolognaise:
“*smiles* Thanks Ignazio. I do try to be as logical and rational as I can but this place can do strange things to people.

Ive not been on here much today but have also been disgusted re: Jade and Laila. Some people on here really need to rethink their attitude because I am increasingly horrified by the nastiness and schadenfreude exhibited on this forum.

I just want to talk about the pretty dresses, The Claudia and THE DANCING!!!! ”

Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Just wanted to say how much I agree with this. I've read a little of what you are talking about and it's just awful. Jade and Laila didn't deliberately injure themselves, for goodness sake.

Same with Rcky W and Natalie C, some of the comments are just so spiteful.”

I`am with you guys...I`v only briefly scanned a few threads today but I could`t believe some posters inferred that injuries had been faked and that Jade should have automatically been eliminated last night.
Robert Romarin
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“I`am with you guys...I`v only briefly scanned a few threads today but I could`t believe some posters inferred that injuries had been faked and that Jade should have automatically been eliminated last night.”

Equally I think it's lame that some posters are trying to pretend it's not a completely reasonable and legitimate POV that a contestant who doesn't take part for whatever reason should be eliminated from the contest...in fairness to the others.

I'm not going to suggest disingenuously that I can't believe some people disagree with me....because I understand the opposing view, I accept expediency and optimum fairness are sometimes incompatible and I recognise there's no perfectly fair solution.

Regarding the injuries, some people are really reaching in their desire to find 'evidence' of faking or exaggeration...though I think keeping a somewhat open mind makes sense.
katmobile
15-11-2009
I too think it's appalling that people are accusing Jade and Leila of faking. Jade deserved a pass she injured herself at the last minute and would not have gone anyway unless she was very unlucky with whom she ended up in the dance-off with had she not injured herself if she does pull it will be a shame but I think we can all understand that SCD is not as important as the celeb's career.

I think Tuffers was the right person to have been eliminated - Ricky upped his game and danced better in the DO and that's what it should be about, Nat Cass was horribly over-marked and I hope her and Vinny have their tongues in their cheek when they are talking about winning or they are horribly wrong. I wish she gone but what can you do. She's clumpy and it's nothing to do with being a big girl Tish Dean was a big lady and she was a lovely ballroom dancer.
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