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Who make the best Freesat+ boxes?
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grimtales1
16-11-2009
Thanks
IPlayer on freesat sounds useful.
grimtales1
18-11-2009
Hey,
Yesterday I ordered the Humax Freesat+ (HDR). I haven't bought a new HDMI cable, hopefully the one that comes with it will be fine
Mikembe
18-11-2009
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I haven't bought a new HDMI cable, hopefully the one that comes with it will be fine ”

Mine was.

Mikembe
jwball
18-11-2009
The standard cable is perfect.
grimtales1
18-11-2009
Looking forward to getting Freesat installed
Tern
26-11-2009
Originally Posted by DeltaX:
“I think the Humax HDR is a brilliant bit of kit and have no hesitation in recommending it. I think that much of the negativity about it (which you can read in these forums) was totally unjustified. In any event the recent firmware update now makes those negative comments redundant.”

Apart, of course, from the bugs they haven't fixed.
antenna1
26-11-2009
He could go to comet and pick one of there OTT £80 cables


Originally Posted by jwball:
“The standard cable is perfect.”

Berwhale
26-11-2009
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Hey,
Yesterday I ordered the Humax Freesat+ (HDR). I haven't bought a new HDMI cable, hopefully the one that comes with it will be fine ”

HDMI uses a digitally encoded signal and not subject to the same issues as analogue connections like SCART, S-Video or phono (obviously the cable itself is physically susceptible to the same sorts of interference, but this won't affect signal quality in the same way)

Don't get taken in by the snake oil of oxygen free copper cables and gold plated connectors. There's only two reasons why you'd replace the one in the box - 1, you want a longer/shorter one, or 2, you've got more money than sense

I saw someone advertising S/PDIF optical cables with gold plated connectors the other day. They came out with some nonsense about neutralizing static electricity that could affect the photons in the optical fibre
morningstar
27-11-2009
I dont know about Humax having annoying little bugs, I think
that there are some annoying bugs in these posts

Anyway All my HUMAX BOXES are Brilliant

So HUMAX carry on the Good Work
Alan_T
27-11-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Apart, of course, from the bugs they haven't fixed. ”

And the new ones they've introduced, like editing radio recording schedules from the Guide, and HDMI switching?

Originally Posted by morningstar:
“Anyway All my HUMAX BOXES are Brilliant ”

Maybe you haven't used a well-designed device? Humax boxes are not BAD, but they could be so much better with rather more attention to detail and the UI.

Cheers, Alan.
Miriyo
27-11-2009
I can highly recommend the Humax PVR.

If all you want is to watch TV and get it to record the stuff you like without you having to do much, then it's great. I find it very reliable.

I loved Sky Plus back in the day when I first got it, but I love this more.
B1ggles
01-12-2009
I was looking at the Panasonic as we don't yet have a DVD player/recorder.

But it seems to have some drawbacks, eg where most sources suggest it can pause & rewind live TV, it looks as though it can't actually rewind. And, according to PVR Junction, it seems the Humax can watch a 3rd channel while recording two others (should that ever be necessary!) but the Pana can't.

It might still be worth it if it made downloading to DVD easier. I'm getting conflicting messages about how easy that is with the Humax. Would I download by USB and burn it to DVD on the PC, or can it be done easiest direct to a DVD recorder? If the former, I'd only need to buy a DVD player, not a DVD recorder.
grahamlthompson
01-12-2009
Originally Posted by B1ggles:
“I was looking at the Panasonic as we don't yet have a DVD player/recorder.

But it seems to have some drawbacks, eg where most sources suggest it can pause & rewind live TV, it looks as though it can't actually rewind. And, according to PVR Junction, it seems the Humax can watch a 3rd channel while recording two others (should that ever be necessary!) but the Pana can't.

It might still be worth it if it made downloading to DVD easier. I'm getting conflicting messages about how easy that is with the Humax. Would I download by USB and burn it to DVD on the PC, or can it be done easiest direct to a DVD recorder? If the former, I'd only need to buy a DVD player, not a DVD recorder.”

Creating DVD's from programmes transferred to a PC from a hdr can be as hard or as easy as you want to make it. You can do it using free software but it's usually a multistage operation and requires some degree of technical expertise.

Briefly

1 Convert the mpeg2 transmission stream file to a mpeg2 programme stream file
2 Use a DVD authoring package to create the right file and folder format from the .mpg file and burn this to DVD

Commercial software makes this very simple

The easiest to use all in one is probably Videredo TV Suite

Don't forget you also can archive massive amounts of HD and SD material to an external usb hard disc on a hdr and replay direct from there. (I have a 1tB archive drive). Because these are external you can archive as much as you want without using dvds just by swapping the external storage drive. You can even now add your own video to the hdr
B1ggles
01-12-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“1 Convert the mpeg2 transmission stream file to a mpeg2 programme stream file
2 Use a DVD authoring package to create the right file and folder format from the .mpg file and burn this to DVD

Commercial software makes this very simple

The easiest to use all in one is probably Videredo TV Suite

Don't forget you also can archive massive amounts of HD and SD material to an external usb hard disc on a hdr and replay direct from there. (I have a 1tB archive drive). Because these are external you can archive as much as you want without using dvds just by swapping the external storage drive. You can even now add your own video to the hdr”

I was lost in the first few words of Step 1, not having heard of a 'transmission stream file'!

We will probably never need more than the built-in HD. But, from what you say, it looks as though the USB HD option will be the easiest if we need to archive and just buy a basic DVD player for any prerecorded DVDs we acquire.

Thanks for your help, Graham.
snaithg
01-12-2009
Originally Posted by B1ggles:
“I was lost in the first few words of Step 1, not having heard of a 'transmission stream file'!

We will probably never need more than the built-in HD. But, from what you say, it looks as though the USB HD option will be the easiest if we need to archive and just buy a basic DVD player for any prerecorded DVDs we acquire.

Thanks for your help, Graham.”

I think this should be "Transport Stream"
B1ggles
01-12-2009
Originally Posted by snaithg:
“I think this should be "Transport Stream"”

Should this make me any the wiser?

Possibly the word should be 'Steam'?

Br1an242
02-12-2009
I have the Panasonic BS850 and it will copy a recorded transport stream (.m2ts file) to BD-RE in high speed mode - very fast.
Format Factory, a free download, will convert this to MPEG2 or anything else you fancy. Then you can edit it with your favourite suite.
Of course, a Blu Ray drive is required on the computer.
Brian.
grahamlthompson
02-12-2009
Originally Posted by snaithg:
“I think this should be "Transport Stream" ”

UR right of course, it was a long day
grahamlthompson
02-12-2009
Originally Posted by Br1an242:
“I have the Panasonic BS850 and it will copy a recorded transport stream (.m2ts file) to BD-RE in high speed mode - very fast.
Format Factory, a free download, will convert this to MPEG2 or anything else you fancy. Then you can edit it with your favourite suite.
Of course, a Blu Ray drive is required on the computer.
Brian.”

TsMuxerGUI will do the same.
grahamlthompson
02-12-2009
Originally Posted by ian-d:
“The alternative for those who don't have access to two cables from the dish which the Humax ideally needs (i.e. those in flats etc), would be the TechniSat HDFS which allows you to record to an external USB memory stick or hard drive. Cheaper than the Humax but as said, if you are limited by a single cable, it is a good alternative.”


The hdr still lets you record two and watch a 3rd channel even on one one cable it just restricts the second channel recording and 3rd channel watching more than if you had two cables. It's by far the best option for anyone that can only get one connection
ian-d
02-12-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The hdr still lets you record two and watch a 3rd channel even on one one cable it just restricts the second channel recording and 3rd channel watching more than if you had two cables. It's by far the best option for anyone that can only get one connection”

Of course, but they both offer limitations when used with a single cable, so the TechniSat does at least offer a much cheaper alternative
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