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There should not of been a Dance-off tonight?
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Daisy_M
15-11-2009
I hope that a decision is made today on Jade's future in the competition and if, sadly, she has to leave that they do bring someone back.

Would it be Phil or Zoe (who has a higher scoring average)?
isopap
15-11-2009
Whilst I agree that there was definitely a case for not having the dance-off this week, there are probably a couple of key reasons why they went ahead with it.

Firstly, it was too soon to tell whether Jade is definitely going to be leaving the show so they would want to make sure they have the right number of contestants next week if she does return and eliminate the need for any more playing about with the rules.

Secondly, Jade's injury happened quite late in the show and the dance off and elimination take around 15 minutes or so, which means to not have it would require even more filling on top of filling in the time that would have been devoted to Jade's VT and dance etc. If the show ended early this would have had a knock on effect for the whole of the BBC 1 Saturday night schedule.
isopap
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Daisy_M:
“I hope that a decision is made today on Jade's future in the competition and if, sadly, she has to leave that they do bring someone back.

Would it be Phil or Zoe (who has a higher scoring average)?”

Rules mention previous episode although they do just mention it as a guideline, so who knows what they might actually do.
johnnyutah
15-11-2009
you have a lot to learn bobbla. Judges don't want a public fave, but weaker dancer to win. This is obvious. Chris, despite topping public vote, will go out in the semi, more than likely. Judges can effectively 'fix' this scenario, I can assure you.
johnnyutah
15-11-2009
you have a lot to learn bobbla. Judges don't want a public fave, but weaker dancer to win. This is obvious. Chris, despite topping public vote, will go out in the semi, more than likely. Judges can effectively 'fix' this scenario, I can assure you.
Kez100
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“you have a lot to learn bobbla. Judges don't want a public fave, but weaker dancer to win. This is obvious. Chris, despite topping public vote, will go out in the semi, more than likely. Judges can effectively 'fix' this scenario, I can assure you.”

How can they fix it? Please assure me.
Kez100
15-11-2009
They won't bring anyone back. There would be uproar if they went on to win. What they should do is plan for a two person final and come up with a clever idea - aka no dance off - to cope with another person dropping out. I think no dance off is there only option in that case. Or, I suppose, bringing the final forward a week.
bingoman
15-11-2009
I like to thank some you for correcting my spelling and grammer, my fault sorry at the time i was just a bit angry at the show and dance off went

i should of said there should not of been a dance-off last night so i hope the mistake(s) have been corrected
Fudd
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I hope you're not advocating we put marbles on the stairs and oil on the dance floor to increase the drama.”

Oops. I didn't mean it like that.

I just hope the presentation of the show is as good as it was yesterday. I won't hold my breath though.
johnnyutah
16-11-2009
Kez100 - much like X Factor, they know precisely the polling figures, so going into a 3-couple semi-final, say, they'll know Chris is topping vote, so for one they'll ensure he's bottom of leaderboard, and for two they'll order the 2 couples above him in the order that guarantees he will be in the bottom 2, and thus in the dance off, and thus can be kicked off the show.
This is what happened to Gethin when he got knocked out, and it'll likely happen to Chris.
Fudd
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“Kez100 - much like X Factor, they know precisely the polling figures, so going into a 3-couple semi-final, say, they'll know Chris is topping vote, so for one they'll ensure he's bottom of leaderboard, and for two they'll order the 2 couples above him in the order that guarantees he will be in the bottom 2, and thus in the dance off, and thus can be kicked off the show.
This is what happened to Gethin when he got knocked out, and it'll likely happen to Chris.”

Because of the re-ordering of the scores they cannot do this anymore. Indeed, tying the couple at the top would mean the public would find it easier to save the bottom placed couple due to the points difference between equal first and third being only one.
tabithakitten
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“Kez100 - much like X Factor, they know precisely the polling figures, so going into a 3-couple semi-final, say, they'll know Chris is topping vote, so for one they'll ensure he's bottom of leaderboard, and for two they'll order the 2 couples above him in the order that guarantees he will be in the bottom 2, and thus in the dance off, and thus can be kicked off the show.
This is what happened to Gethin when he got knocked out, and it'll likely happen to Chris.”

I see what you're saying although it's completely unsubstantiated . However, I'd say it might be quite difficult to order Ricky W and Ali. Who knows whether one or other of them is consistently above the other?

Obviously if one of them is regularly polling significantly more highly, it would be quite easy to do as you suggested though as the judges have reduced their personal gap between Ali and Ricky W to virtually nothing so it would be quite practical to "arrange" the scores in the semi to give the more popular higher scoring celeb the higher score, thus ensuring that he/she was kept out of the dance off and then using the less popular celeb to knock out the person who was soaring ahead in the vote. However, as I mentioned it's completely unsubstantiated. I just like to examine the practicalities...
Philly1234
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by bingoman:
“I like to thank some you for correcting my spelling and grammer, my fault sorry at the time i was just a bit angry at the show and dance off went

i should of said there should not of been a dance-off last night so i hope the mistake(s) have been corrected”

Yes, that's what you should have said

Sorry, that's one of my grammar pet peeves, too.

I've never seen anyone "sit out" a week from DWTS or any other version of SCD. I have seen people get injured and have to leave though...they usually do away with the elim that night so that there are always three people in the final.
Gutted Girl
16-11-2009
Didn't Kate Garroway have to miss the first dance because she couldn't dance, as she had tendonitis?

All the other weeks she just couldn't dance!
thenetworkbabe
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by Kez100:
“They won't bring anyone back. There would be uproar if they went on to win. What they should do is plan for a two person final and come up with a clever idea - aka no dance off - to cope with another person dropping out. I think no dance off is there only option in that case. Or, I suppose, bringing the final forward a week.”

Its a big pre xmas event - you can't just put Harry Potter on instead.

They can't even fill with the tour video as its another company and the dancing there might compare too well.

A week without votes is their only way out but that still leaves them with half an hour to fill and ten minutes at the end with nothing in it. lots of grans/aunties and friends on VT may have to be it.
Philly1234
16-11-2009
Well, in the past on DWTS they pretended they were going to eliminate someone, and then they just didn't. Or they told you who was in the bottom two, but also said that all the scores and votes would carry over to the next week. Anyway, they figured out a way to keep people watching through the whole results show.
johnnyutah
16-11-2009
Fudd - I can assure you the scenario, as outlined, can happen and likely will happen imo
totalwise
24-11-2009
It's a shame that Jade couldn't dance. I really enjoyyed watching her so far. I guess we'll have to miss her this time round.

Anyway, tonight is my night and I'm going down Abacas in Bank for some salsa dancing action tonight... Have fun...

p.s. it's so good to almost be done with work
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