Everyone has a pain threshold, maybe hers is on the lower end? I think she should be given the benefit of doubt, we will never know how painful it was for her and how bad the injury was.

The rest of the 'cast' may just not like her.

I dont think its necessarily a question of pain threshold, a sprain is a sprain and if it was severe enough to stop halfway through the routine, then it was severe enough to take a bow out of the competition for a week.

Though I guess withit being the rumba, it wouldnt have been such a strain on the ankle, say than if it was faster dance.

*Sigh of relief* Thanks to you and kez. I thought it was just me.

There's nothing I can put my finger on, it's not like she's a bot or too full of herself or just plain irritating, but I just can't warm to her.

I was a bit surprised that some of the pro's were laughing and joking when L & A were being interviewed by Claudia. As a prevous poster said perhaps some of the pros have danced on with similar injuries and think she's a bit of a wuss. I'm sure that they all realised that Laila was going through on the sympathy vote.

She got the all clear to dance again at the hospital so obviously no fractures or breaks. We'll see next week just how serious it is.

When Anton picked her up there was a little too much flourish to make it look completely off the cuff, but it was sweet all the same.

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She got the all clear to dance again at the hospital so obviously no fractures or breaks. We'll see next week just how serious it is. [quote]

Well, like I said previously, Im a Doctor and you dont have to have a 'fracture or break' (incidentally, they are both one and the same thing) to be advised not to dance on an injury.

Ankle sprains can be pretty nasty too and Ive had to bring patients back weeks after injury for physio to get them even just walking again, never mind rhumbaing on a sprain if it is as nasty as Laila's was made out to be.

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She got the all clear to dance again at the hospital so obviously no fractures or breaks. We'll see next week just how serious it is.
I didn't spot that you are a proper doctor - obviously you know more than me.

I'm not saying its not potentially serious, I'm just trying to offer an explanation as to why the pros didn't seem to sympathetic. She could put her weight on it and was walking at the start of the show. I tripped over a kerb once and sprained my ankle and it was really really painful - the vast quantities of vodka which caused the stumble didn't do much to numb the pain either.

Hopefully an ice pack and a couple of days of rest will do the trick.

If people want to talk consipracy theories, then I'd guess that this comment from the Strictly Come Bitching blog might possibly be more to the point than the idea that Laila was faking it:


I see no reason to believe that it wasn't genuine. Perhaps it wasn't as bad a sprain as she made out but we're not the medics who treated her, so we don't actually know that one way or the other. Personally, I'd rather give her the benefit of the doubt and believe it truly was painful for her to dance on that foot.

Just watched back the results bit and I think Anton says 'What'd I say, told ya'

This obviously means that Laila was worrying herself silly about having to dance on the ankle again and he told her not to worry. He probably didn't actually believe this himself but when their names were called the relief was obvious. Laila was shocked Anton was relieved.

Seems like he was trying to be kind and keep her calm to me.

But the Anton haters of the world will see negatives in everything he does I suppose.

I'm really amazed that people are suggesting that it's all a scam - really, she can fake swelling? I fell downstairs and sprained both my ankles so that they became very swollen and eventually had two black anklesocks of bruising and I remember on the day trying to keep going - I was very busy - limping along assuring everyone I was fine while they were swelling over the sides of my shoes, and while I was sort of crying at the same time. It is the sort of injury where it's difficult to evaluate how much you can handle until you try and where you can play mind games on yourself. Also there was massive pressure on her because Jade was already out and her injury wasn't as bad as Jade's. I don't believe for a minute her tears and pain were anything other than genuine.

In the case of a bad sprain - one as bad as this appeared to be - I find it remarkable she was able to put her boots on at all. In the many bad sprains I've treated in pre-hospital care, it's hard enough to get near them with an ice-pack, never mind move the joint sufficiently to get boots on.

It was obviously a very minor strain or they wouldn't have let her dance at all. That doesn't mean it wasn't painful to her, everyones pain thresholds are different.

No I know love

Just watched back the scoring bit and I am absolutely stunned by the guys in the background! My mouth is actually hanging open!
Not a smidge of sympathy and not not even a whoo hoo or a clap when they came in, or if there was it was a nano second long! Anton & Laila are obviosly not popular with the other dancers and contestants. I am gobsmacked, even if they didn't believe the pain she was in it was a harsh reaction or lack there of. WEIRD.

From what Tess said to Laila (thanking her for her bravery) I took it that Laila was pressured a bit to dance because Jade was out.

Here's my scenario:

In the corridor after getting their marks

"I just can't do that again Anton. If we're in the dance-off we'll have to quit. I'm sorry (tears)"

"Don't worry your little head about it, luvvie" (or similarly patronising expression) "Our fans and the ****s who got Craig into Blackpool will see us right. Then we'll get this seen to and take it a day at a time. Now, better get into make-up and have that eyeshadow fixed. You need more (laughs)"

Later, as their name is called out.

"See, I told you so."

So no conspiracy at all, just rely on Jimbob & Cletus. Simples.

That is totally it!

Unless I missed the bit where after saying 'told you' Anton threw his head back and roared with evil laughter like all good villans do!

Or possibly said 'I love it when a plan comes together'. Anyone hear that bit?

I thought that but then I wondered why no sympathy in the greenroom which I am sure you would get if you had been made
to dance? Now it might have become ultra competitive but I can't see they let that be seen after all most of these people are luvvies. No, I am sure she hurt herself. I don't get the bandage colour as that's just not necessary
nowadays and she had some time on her side as she went to
hospital - or somewhere in the car before she was dressed formthe night. I am also pretty sure it wasn't too bad because of the medic allowing her to
dance. Perhaps she is a crybaby? Princess (as I mentined before). I'm no great Anton fan but it's his place
to support her, so he was doing his job.

Another thing came to mind and sorry for bringing it up.'harping back to the p@@@ incident - wasn't it said
that she said it first? Maybe they are negative toward her because she allowed Anton to take
mega flack for something she started. Was
it ever confirmed that she started it?

I'm just trying to make a complicated equation easy which I bet it is if you are there and know what's going on!

Exactly!

Whether she did or not hurt her ankle is irrelevant and doesn't interest me, I see no reason to disbelieve her (especially as faking it would be very dangerous given the phone vote) but what the FIRG is going on backstage? Something major was going on behind the scenes before Saturday's show, and just judging things on face value, the celebs didn't seem to believe Laila was really hurt or they just don't like her and not a single one of them came up with an ounce of sympathy or support.

That's pretty big, isn't it?!

Except, of course, Phil who put his arm round her and gave her a big cuddle when he was sitting on the sofa with her in the Green Room during the round up when all of the dances had finished and voting started. Or does this inconvenient fact not fit with the picture that people are trying to paint of a cast - that was already subdued and reeling in shock because one of their number had earlier sustained a potentially career-threatening injury in front of their eyes at the dress rehearsal - disliking one of their own number so much they cannot muster an ounce of sympathy for her?

First chance I have had to catch up on DS over saturdays show, and been really surprised at the tone of this thread! I am no Anton/Lalia fan by any means but I was not untowardly (word?!) suspicious of Lalias injury on Saturday. My thoughts at the time were that she has a low pain threshold (well, lower than others) and that Anton had actually been quite supportive, his comment during the results simply reassurance. However, I have watched the green room bits back and am surprised by Katya's reactions in the background, and I agree that was very strange I wonder if she will make reference to it on ITT tonight if she feels particularly hard done-by having subsequently being voted out...

I didn't watch that part again, that's good if so.

I'm only going on what I see, and what was on display when they entered the green room after dancing had nothing to do with shock or dismay, if you actually watch Chris and Katya and Natalie and in fact...everyone, it's clear to see that the usual support/clapping/whooping/happiness when greeting a fellow dancer, let alone one who is injured and still danced is missing. Let alone both Chris and Katya's visible displays of annoyance/disbelief/eye rolling. That doesn't strike you as extremely odd? There's no picture I'm trying to fit, Laila hurt her foot as far as I'm concerned, I just don't understand the dynamic on display.

Katya is always like that. I've noticed on loads of occasions that she very rarely claps for or with the others.

I think part of the problem with that backstage footage is we don't actually see them arrive back in the tesspit. When the camera returns to Claudia they're already there (and could have received a rapturous reception for all we know).

I think that's just about spot on.

Yes! Voice of reason!

Sorry I might be being dense, but in the Claudiapit Ali was sympathetic (I thought) and also commenting on swelling, not just Claudia. The reactions of others seemed odd especially Chris Hollins and Katya. I suppose Ali understood the worry of having to do a dance off while injured, because she already has. I expect if the sprain is all bruised and nasty we'll see some VT (like we did with Ali's injury) on ITT or next weeks show - and if we don't see any the cynics win and it was all a giant plot.