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Should the scoring be changed ....
knawtitypaos
15-11-2009
.....to factor in the difficulty of the dance ??

It seems to me that every week, Ricky Whittle attempts more difficult moves in his routines, yet other celebrities play safe.

Last week I seem to remember CRH saying that Ricky had attempted something in his dance that no-one had tried in any other series, and because he hadn't got it quite right, he was marked down. Then, Ali got 40 for not a very risky dance. I don't see how you can compare a woman dancing a VW to a man dancing a Tango, when one is far more difficult than the other.

Perhaps some kind of 'difficulty factor' that you see in diving competitions would be fairer.

EG multply the score by 2.3 for a man leading a Tango, and 1.7 for a woman being dragged around in a VW. (not a camper van)

Just a thought
Robert Romarin
15-11-2009
I don't really believe that's appropriate or necessary for this kind of dance entertainment contest....besides which it's just another potential area of tedious 'controversy'.

I think it should be left up the judges to factor degree of difficulty implicitly into their marking...though I accept they sometimes don't inspire much trust with their individual scores.

The main priority is to ditch the DO and solve this tied scores nonsense.
Bonnie96
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“EG multply the score by 2.3 for a man leading a Tango, and 1.7 for a woman being dragged around in a VW. (not a camper van)

Just a thought”

Glad I'm not the only one lol
Every time I write VW, in my head I'm saying Volkswagon
thenetworkbabe
15-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“.....to factor in the difficulty of the dance ??

It seems to me that every week, Ricky Whittle attempts more difficult moves in his routines, yet other celebrities play safe.

Last week I seem to remember CRH saying that Ricky had attempted something in his dance that no-one had tried in any other series, and because he hadn't got it quite right, he was marked down. Then, Ali got 40 for not a very risky dance. I don't see how you can compare a woman dancing a VW to a man dancing a Tango, when one is far more difficult than the other.

Perhaps some kind of 'difficulty factor' that you see in diving competitions would be fairer.

EG multply the score by 2.3 for a man leading a Tango, and 1.7 for a woman being dragged around in a VW. (not a camper van)

Just a thought”

Many of the celebrity men, especially in the Latin, stroll around whilst their female pro does the vote winning moves gyrating around them. Some are effectively mobile poles. The female celebs therefore end up with harder job of trying to look like the pro females in the other partnerships who are doing most of the work. Its not that clear that a female celeb trying to follow a pro has a much less difficult job than a celebrity male whose female pro can slow down to match what they are doing or who can do something eyecatching to cover up.

Tariffs as in diving or gymnastics would be embarassing. If you had multipliers, the result would confuse the audience - just as Gymnastics scores became incomprehensible once they stopped giving one mark out of 10. Ali and Ricky W might have twice Phil's marks, so the result wouldn't be popular either. If you started by marking each dance within its own level of difficulty, some people would be scoring out of 10 and some out of 3 or the tariff would be meaningless. The ones getting 1 out of 3 would then probably win on sympathy and anger at the judges.
HotsforLilia
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“Last week I seem to remember CRH saying that Ricky had attempted something in his dance that no-one had tried in any other series, and because he hadn't got it quite right, he was marked down.
Just a thought”

Interesting that you think that: my view is the opposite. Every week they try something too difficult and get it wrong,then get marked up because they tried it! Hence the judges comments over the last two weeks saying there were several mistakes, but still giving them 35.
Lurksalot
16-11-2009
Its not really up to the celeb how hard the dance is though, the pros decide.
lach doch mal
16-11-2009
Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“.....to factor in the difficulty of the dance ??

It seems to me that every week, Ricky Whittle attempts more difficult moves in his routines, yet other celebrities play safe.

Last week I seem to remember CRH saying that Ricky had attempted something in his dance that no-one had tried in any other series, and because he hadn't got it quite right, he was marked down. Then, Ali got 40 for not a very risky dance. I don't see how you can compare a woman dancing a VW to a man dancing a Tango, when one is far more difficult than the other.

Perhaps some kind of 'difficulty factor' that you see in diving competitions would be fairer.

EG multply the score by 2.3 for a man leading a Tango, and 1.7 for a woman being dragged around in a VW. (not a camper van)

Just a thought”

Sorry I haven't read through the rest of the thread. However, it seems that the judges have already done this. Regardless of how many mistakes Ricky makes, he always ends up with at least a 35 (at least the last 2 weeks). I assume the judges justify this with the fact that he 'attempts' more difficult routines, instead of actually telling his professional dance partner to try to match the routines to the dancing ability of her celebrity.

The jive was a joke and he clearly had problems coping with it. He is a good dancer, give him something he can exel in rather than trying to prove a point about your own abilities as a dance teacher (and he struggles with keeping up). The woman is starting to annoy me incredibly. He would have been better off with someone like Erin, Lilia or even Camilla.
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