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Jade's website - Injury update!
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ESPIONdansant
21-11-2009
I'll tune in because I always do.
Unfortunately it has put me right off Jade. So if that's what they (BBC) wanted then they've achieved something.
Vic
21-11-2009
I really thought a decision would have been made, or even forced by now. This could drag on forever as maybe she'll never be quite right every week.

I'm quite shocked she's even contemplating it to be honest, I'd be too worried my entire career could be compromised with what is, after all, just a daft celeb dancing competition.

All the celebs, even the winners, just go back to the day job afterwards. Jade doesn't want to risk not having a day job, does she? I guess she knows best but you never can tell.
Spinaker5
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“Oh the excitement the tension its just so gripping this will she or wont she rubbish”

No excitement or tension as far as I'm concerned. Jade stated on her website quite early in the week that she hoped that they would be allowed to dance their tango. The cynic in me is now thinking that is what she wanted all along. It's sad she couldn't do it when it was so good but Laila, Ali and Ricky W have all danced on through injury. She should have been able to start training for the rhumba at least by mid-week or she should have pulled out.
BirthdayGirl
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“It's pathetic.
Just dance, woman.
Your physio says it's OK.
And if you feel any pain then you can stop.

It's a dancing programme. I wouldn't care if it WAS the bl00dy Olympics. It's still not life or death.

Pathetic.”

Agree...am soooooooooooooooooo bored of it now I couldnt care less whether she bloody dances or not!
ESPIONdansant
21-11-2009
If she doesn't dance this week she's automatically out. Yes?
I don't want to see her limp through week by week and get lots of sympathy when others are busting a gut to rehearse routines.

Stay or go and let the BBC work out how to redesign the next few weeks if necessary. Stop this malarkey.
Abbasolutely 40
21-11-2009
I am getting suspicious now too . If there was the tiniest question about Jade readiness to dance , I am thinking that no Olympic athlete would even contemplate taking a minute risk
So I am begining to think its all sorted and now dragging out and if so I am very dissapointed with everyone involved
Dr. Jan Itor
21-11-2009
I think there might be a problem with these forums, because I clinked on a link for a thread about Jade's injury, yet I seem to have ended up in a meeting of the society for cynics.

I see no reason why a final decision should have been made yet. On the contrary, with an injury like this the most sensible path is to make the decision as late as possible, because you are regularly monitoring how the healing process is progressing. It's what any professional sportsman or woman and the medical staff advising them would do going into a sporting event, so it makes sense to do the same here.
Spinaker5
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“I think there might be a problem with these forums, because I clinked on a link for a thread about Jade's injury, yet I seem to have ended up in a meeting of the society for cynics.

I see no reason why a final decision should have been made yet. On the contrary, with an injury like this the most sensible path is to make the decision as late as possible, because you are regularly monitoring how the healing process is progressing. It's what any professional sportsman or woman and the medical staff advising them would do going into a sporting event, so it makes sense to do the same here.”

But this is a dancing competition and she should have been learning a new dance. It is ridiculous that no decision has been made.
calculator
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“If she doesn't dance this week she's automatically out. Yes?
I don't want to see her limp through week by week and get lots of sympathy when others are busting a gut to rehearse routines.
Stay or go and let the BBC work out how to redesign the next few weeks if necessary. Stop this malarkey.”

From what I've seen of Jade and Ian, that's never going to happen. And busting a gut is what Jade and Ian have been doing too, relentlessly. Ever seen Ian look this physically fit ?? Jade did that to him
Doghouse Riley
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“I think there might be a problem with these forums, because I clinked on a link for a thread about Jade's injury, yet I seem to have ended up in a meeting of the society for cynics.

I see no reason why a final decision should have been made yet. On the contrary, with an injury like this the most sensible path is to make the decision as late as possible, because you are regularly monitoring how the healing process is progressing. It's what any professional sportsman or woman and the medical staff advising them would do going into a sporting event, so it makes sense to do the same here.”

Err..

She isn't going to jump.

So it makes no sense having no time to practice the required dance.

So it's pointless competing, (c'ept for the sympathy vote) or are you expecting a "rule change" just for Jade?
And it isn't like X-factor she won't have "backing dancers" to carry her.

The BBC will be loving all this.
claire2281
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Spinaker5:
“If Jade was going to make the decision for herself, she should have made it by now.”

She has. She's said she wants to dance. It's the BBC physio who is seemingly uncertain.

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I bet "BBC legal" are now involved, would she be the first dancer to have to sign an "injury disclaimer" before performing a ballroom dance on TV?”

That's what I'm wondering - if they're basically drawing up an agreement that Jade dances at her own risk, so to speak. Unfortunately, that's how litigious the modern world has become.

Originally Posted by bobbla:
“I must admit i'm not happy about this aspect either. We know that people vote out of sympathy, people have been saying on here that Jade should come out and just let Ian dance around her and they would love it and vote like mad.

One week of sympathy voting/getting a bye is fine but dragging it out over 2 weeks is unfair to the other contestants who've trained hard this week and are potentially going to be kicked out.”

To be honest, if Jade's tango is as good as it's made out to be she should be in no danger of going out anyway. It's not like she's one of the no hopers. She's a great dancer.

Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“It's pathetic.
Just dance, woman.
Your physio says it's OK.”

Not pathetic at all.

The choice isn't in her hands.
Dr. Jan Itor
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Spinaker5:
“But this is a dancing competition and she should have been learning a new dance. It is ridiculous that no decision has been made.”

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Err..

She isn't going to jump.

So it makes no sense having no time to practice the required dance.

So it's pointless competing, (c'ept for the sympathy vote) or are you expecting a "rule change" just for Jade?

The BBC will be loving all this.”

I know she isn't going to jump. That's why I never said she was.

Does it actually require a "rule change" for Jade to perform the Tango? There may well be provision in the rules that allows a couple to perform the dance they were due to have danced the previous week but couldn't due to injury.
Spinaker5
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Err..

She isn't going to jump.

So it makes no sense having no time to practice the required dance.

So it's pointless competing, (c'ept for the sympathy vote) or are you expecting a "rule change" just for Jade?
And it isn't like X-factor she won't have "backing dancers" to carry her.

The BBC will be loving all this.”

Totally agree. For Jade to expect a rule change just for her, having already been given a bye for injury whilst another competitor danced despite injury (and there's also Ali, Ricky W and Tuffers who I forgot earlier who have continued to dance) has not endeared her to me.
ESPIONdansant
21-11-2009
Of course she chooses.

Has the BBC said that it reserves the right to take the decision?

The decision is in her hands. And, should she dance, will she be permitted to do the tango? I would like to see it but I am not sure it is fair to the others if it is allowed. Hm.
bobbla
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
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To be honest, if Jade's tango is as good as it's made out to be she should be in no danger of going out anyway. It's not like she's one of the no hopers. She's a great dancer.
”

Yes but she should be doing the rumba not the tango. I think a decision should have been made earlier in the week when she still had time to learn the new dance she should be doing and if she wasn't fit enough a decision made then to withdraw her from the competition. She was given a bye on the week she was supposed to do the tango because of injury and now if she dances she'll be getting a bye from doing her next dance too.
Iphigenia
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
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It's a dancing programme. I wouldn't care if it WAS the bl00dy Olympics. It's still not life or death.

Pathetic.”

This.

I accepted that medical advice banned her last week.
It seems logical to me that if she couldn't have begun training mid-week, then there was no point dancing tonight; and at that point, she should have pulled out.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

It is (or used to be anyway) a mild, entertaining programme. Whether any one of them dances or has to quit is utterly irrelevant on a global scale.
WakingUpInVegas
21-11-2009
I'm a Jade and Ian supporter
But if she does come out and the dance is clearly not up to her standard or she only does half of it because of her injury, then we could be in for two potential sympathy votes tonight which I think is a shame and not exactly fair
*stargazer*
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by BirthdayGirl:
“Agree...am soooooooooooooooooo bored of it now I couldnt care less whether she bloody dances or not!”

I so agree with you!!!!!!

Phil Tufnell had SURGERY on his knee and you didn't hear a peep out of him.
ESPIONdansant
21-11-2009
I really liked them.
It's still unfair if she gets to dance the tango - much as I would like to see it!
claire2281
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by bobbla:
“Yes but she should be doing the rumba not the tango. I think a decision should have been made earlier in the week when she still had time to learn the new dance she should be doing and if she wasn't fit enough a decision made then to withdraw her from the competition. She was given a bye on the week she was supposed to do the tango because of injury and now if she dances she'll be getting a bye from doing her next dance too.”

Sorry but this is just ridiculous nitpicking. She has not had any extra training time on the tango. She can still do the rumba later in the competition. She's got no advantage.
Doghouse Riley
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“Of course she chooses.

Has the BBC said that it reserves the right to take the decision?

The decision is in her hands. And, should she dance, will she be permitted to do the tango? I would like to see it but I am not sure it is fair to the others if it is allowed. Hm.”

The BBC will always do what they want to do.
Jade has a "contract" it's probably pages long. She in this instance is an employee of the BBC.
She'll do what they tell her, make no mistake about it.
How they "dress it up" is a different matter.
Bhoy1888
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Spinaker5:
“Totally agree. For Jade to expect a rule change just for her, having already been given a bye for injury whilst another competitor danced despite injury (and there's also Ali, Ricky W and Tuffers who I forgot earlier who have continued to dance) has not endeared her to me.”

It seems to be since this all started that the rules if not being changed are been manipulated by the Jade team/BBC to make sure she stays in as they all think she is the only one who can compete with Ali and Ricky
BirthdayGirl
21-11-2009
Whats the betting Laila will appear in a neck brace to avert all the sympathy votes away from Ian/Jade to her and Anton! lol
Dr. Jan Itor
21-11-2009
Originally Posted by Iphigenia:
“This.

I accepted that medical advice banned her last week.
It seems logical to me that if she couldn't have begun training mid-week, then there was no point dancing tonight; and at that point, she should have pulled out.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

It is (or used to be anyway) a mild, entertaining programme. Whether any one of them dances or has to quit is utterly irrelevant on a global scale.”

Surely if it's a mild, entertaining programme that is utterly irrelevant on a global scale then it doesn't matter whether she could train this week. After all, it can't matter if she does the tango instead.
swnymor1963
21-11-2009
As some posters have suggested I think this is now a legal/insurance issue...If Jade Dances and suffers a more serious injury then it could end her career....Remember Paul Gascoigne and his cruciate ligament injury.....He was never the same after that injury...yes it was repaired...and yes he played again....but he was never the world class player he was before his injury....Basically it ended his days as one of the Worlds great footballers....The treatment of sports injuries has moved on in leaps and bounds since the 1980`s but ligament injuries to this day can still put an end to a sporting career.
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