Yes and this leads me to wonder why Jade would even , for a nano second , contemplate dancing if a physio ,albeit not her own , is saying No

I don't think it is nitpicking.

Would it be fair if she went on to win and had learnt one less dance than the other finalist/s with her. Is it fair to Ricky G to have his tango compared tonight when none of the others will be. Plus i very much doubt she will go out without any rehearsal so however much or little that is she will have had extra training time.

If she hasn't had the time or the fitness to learn the routine she should be doing then she should be out - simple.

She may have to learn one less dance - but she's also had one less week of training/learning - sort of evens things up.

And are you really comparing a possible rehearsal to extra training time - after all the time spent in training varies from couple to couple.

Do you think those who opt for long training hours have an unfair advantage over those who spend less time in the dance studio?

When an athlete has two physios giving differing opinions, they are obviously going to trust the opinion of their personal physio who they have known and worked with for a long time over the opinion of someone who has only been involved in treating very recently.

I pointed out before that the Rumba is (arguably) the dud dance of the competition. If she stays in, I won't have any probably with her doing the Tango (since that seems to be the only viable option) as long as she does the Rumba and then the all the other dances, rather than the 'repeat' dance. Then there's no accusations that she's swapping out the Rumba for the more the crowd pleasing dance, which she happens to be excellent at.

That doesn't address the comparison issue though. I do think it's a little unfair that Ricky G will be subject to comparison while the others are not.


Except her physio probably isn't an expert in dancing and the impact it might have. There are different specialisms, and I strongly suspect hers is an expert in sports related injury and the impact on sports training. Plus as others have mentioned, there's the liability issue. If, heaven forbid, it does go wrong on the dance floor the BBC will have a litigation nightmare on their hands. I sympathise with Jade wanting to dance, but it's not just her at the end of the day that might be affected by it.

Previous years have seen people doing the same dance at this stage of the competition. I think the producers try to get as much diversity as possible, but there is no guarantee of being the only couple doing a particular dance.


It may be true that the BBC physio has more knowledge on the impact of dancing on injuries, and I appreciate the issues of liability for the BBC. However, the question I was responding to was specifically about why Jade would even consider dancing when the BBC physio was saying she shouldn't, and I think it is only logical that she would have much more trust in her own physio.

Do you know what? I kind of hope she doesn't dance now. She's said on her website from the beginning that she'd do everything possible right down the wire to be able to dance this week and she also said that the BBC physio was "definitely" erring on the side of caution. We've known it would probably come to this since the injury, and I think it's a shame that people are turning on Jade rather than the BBC who should have forced a decision one way or another.

I imagine that if Jade's physio has given her the all clear that she and Ian have attempted some kind of training, whether it be a rudimentary rhumba or a refresher in the tango. The problem comes, of course, that if she does dance then she can't win. She'll either be bad (people think she's playing for sympathy/shouldn't be dancing), average but muted by injury (people wonder what the fuss was) or her normal standard (people think she's put the whole thing on).

People who don't watch ITT possibly won't be as affected by this, but I do think it's a shame that Jade's attempt to continue doing something has made people turn on her.

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If I were an Olympic athlete and any physio told me anything negative or was in any shape or form a little wary , no matter who that physio is , I would be gone like a hare and resting that leg .
There are physios who are expert in thier own field and who may never have even contemplated the impact of a dance routine .

It's not what family entertainment has come to, it's what society has come to, a society that shuns responsibility for ones own fate, preferring to go down the litigious route favoured by the US, where every accident is always someone else's fault or responsibility.

If you were an Olympic athlete you would also have a drive to compete and push through barriers that the majority of people don't have. I would guess that to give up without giving herself the best chance of competing just isn't in Jade's nature.

While her physio will be a sports specialist, they will have a general training in physiotherapy that allows them to make a decent assessment of the impact of dancing on Jade's knee, and unless the BBC physio is a specialist in dancing injuries then Jade's physio's opinion should be just as qualified.

Except one is a physio who knows about sports injuries and what stresses a particular sports discipline will place upon that injury. Whereas the other is (we believe) a dance physio with (we would hope) a knowledge of dance-ralated injuries and the stresses that any particular dance might place upon that injury..

Even if the personal physio is better placed, the BBC has a duty of care (and also has to watch any potential legal issues, especially with a person who is receiving Lottery funding), so its decision must be paramount. It's only a dance entertainment programme after all.

I came to this thread to see if there was any update on Jade's injury.

I am astonished at some of the venom now being directed towards her.

Having seen her on ITT I genuinely believe she is upset that it still isn't clear whether she can dance. But in her world (Athletics) this is quite normal that decisions are made very late in the day.

There appears to be a difference of opinion between her physio and the BBC one but beyond that virtually every other statement I've read is pure conjecture.

The girl did not set out to injure herself so why people's sympathy for her would evaporate I can't understand.

She is not dragging this out. She wants to dance and the decision is NOT hers or at least not yet. They may yet say, "Jade, it's up to you" but as yet there is no evidence of this.

It has no effect on the other dancers, they have their own routines to worry about. Why on earth would it be "unfair" if she danced the Tango. She has had no more preparation time and would be bound to feel nervous, no advantage whatsoever.

Personally I hope she is able to dance as I would love to see her Tango. She doesn't want to be wrapped in cotton wool and clearly does not want to give up on the idea of dancing tonight until she is absolutely forced to. It's that determination which makes her an Olympic athlete. Why should she be slated for it?

There is a possibility that the BBC's insurance does come into this but unless anyone has actually read the policy the speculation is just that.

I have found her attitude refreshing and her relationship with Ian endearing. It is a shame that because some of the events don't quite fit some people's prescriptive pattern, they have to suddenly start a backlash against her.

Good luck Jade, I hope the evening works out well for you.

If she feels OK then why has she not been doing light training?

Laila reckons she hasn't done much. So Jade would be prepared to go on even if she found it wasn't permissible.

She should have had a go if she has any intention of appearing tonight.

I now think she won't.

I agree with everything you say - and the only possible reason I can see for the venom and suspicion is the fact that as long as she remains in the competition some see her as a threat to their own favourites.

We're only guessing on how qualified each physio is on dancing injuries. My point was just that Jade has a much higher level of trust with one, so she is bound to favour their opinion.

As I have already, I appreciate the BBC's liability issues, but I was answering the question of why Jade would consider dancing, so that's a separate point.

I'm not sure it's that, but I do think it's sad that Jade seems to be getting the blame and not whoever's not made a decision.

I've said several times, Jade's doing and saying, only what the BBC has agreed, or told her to say.

She's "piggy in the middle."

I don't think there's a lack of sympathy for Jade nor do I see personal attacks on her, rather there is frustration with the way this situation has been handled - which you have to admit hasn't been great as posters have commented on.

I certainly feel for her, but that doesn't mean I can't feel frustrated with the whole mess.

So Cynical

The BBC think it adds to the drama.
Duh.
It just makes them look incompetent.

I suspect there's still a fair bit we don't know about this. The BBC producers will have to review whether they should let her dance, what she can dance, whether she is able to practice, how they announce it if she does dance, can you still vote if she doesn't dance, any insurance implications, potential effect on ratings, the list goes on.

Even in sports situations arise for which there are no adequate rules and that could well be the case here. So the BBC could well be hurriedly making them up.

The 'unfairness' of it all, and the relevant threads were started immediately she was given a bye last week, so I think there is a 'get her off at all costs' section on here.

Admittedly some who were prepared to accept the decision are now tiring of the uncertainty and as you say the flak is being directed at Jade, rather than those who, for whatever reason, might be making her a victim of a cynical game to increase their share of tonight's viewing figures.

I guess maybe that's where I disagree as I don't really think it is a mess.

I'm used to sports where you often don't know until the last minute who is able to take to the field. Last Ashes test with Andrew Flintoff's body being completely broken yet he was still able to produce the ultimate inspiration for the rest of his team.

We just don't know how her knee feels. What's it like when she puts pressure on it? Did it feel better or worse when she got up this morning?

It's unfortunate that she injured herself, but I don't think that makes it a mess. There is no duty that the BBC has to make a decision before she is due to go out on the floor, much as many of us might like to know in advance.

There has been a lack of sympathy. There have been accusations of playing up the injury for sympathy or so that she would get the Tango rather than the Rumba, and one poster said they lost all sympathy when she said she wanted to dance on ITT last night.

I also don't agree that this has been handled well. I think that everyone involved wants Jade to dance of at all possible, and therefore are leaving the decision to the last possible moment. I don't understand why people think a decision should have already been made.