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Old 18-11-2009, 11:33
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I also think it would be unfair to Ricky who has the tango this weekend.
In the earlier stages of the competition, there are several contestants doing the same dance each week, so why is it a problem now if both Jade & Ricky do the tango on the same week?

If shes not fit enough to learn a new routine then thats almost like getting 2 weekends injury time not one.
It's not a matter of fitness, surely, it's a matter of time. Jade's been declared fit enough to dance but that happened late enough in the week that she probably won't have enough time to learn the new dance. Pro dancers can learn new routines quickly, I'm sure, but it must be a lot harder for the contestants.
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Old 18-11-2009, 11:37
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I was all for her getting a bye for a week but i don't think she should be allowed to do the tango. Even one days training on it gives her more than the others get and an unfair advantage imo. I also think it would be unfair to Ricky who has the tango this weekend.

If shes not fit enough to learn a new routine then thats almost like getting 2 weekends injury time not one.

Maybe that makes me hard hearted i don't know but it wouldn't sit comfortably with me however much i'd like to see it.
Jade was to rest her knee for 5 days (minimum) which takes her up to Friday before she should dance.
I would imagine the routine will have to be modified too (so the same thing doesn't happen again ) so I can't see anybody grudging her one day for that?

Glad she's well enough to come back though and looking forward to whatever she dances.
(Even the Floral Dance would get her well deserved votes imo lol)
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Old 18-11-2009, 11:44
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I was all for her getting a bye for a week but i don't think she should be allowed to do the tango. Even one days training on it gives her more than the others get and an unfair advantage imo. I also think it would be unfair to Ricky who has the tango this weekend.

If shes not fit enough to learn a new routine then thats almost like getting 2 weekends injury time not one.

Maybe that makes me hard hearted i don't know but it wouldn't sit comfortably with me however much i'd like to see it.
I think it's difficult. Is it better to make her learn both the technique and routine for a new dance in one day, or to let her use that one day to refresh herself on what I assume is a slightly modified tango? I know I'd be more comfortable letting her tango, but I wonder if that is because she's my favourite?
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:05
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Doesn't matter what dance she does, she'll get through on sympathy and I suppose relief that she's back.

She's not even in my top 3 this series but I'm delighted that it looks like she's returning. I'd hate to lose her from the show.
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:08
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I think it's difficult. Is it better to make her learn both the technique and routine for a new dance in one day, or to let her use that one day to refresh herself on what I assume is a slightly modified tango? I know I'd be more comfortable letting her tango, but I wonder if that is because she's my favourite?
I know what you mean, she's my favourite too, I'm convinced that she should be allowed to do her Tango, because not only won't she have time to learn the Rhumba but also because it will make for much better entertainment. I'm not sure I have the patience for a second show in a row with a rubbish Rhumba.

I like to think that I would have exactly the same thoughts regarding a couple who weren't my favourites, even one that I wasn't particularly fond of but who can tell
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:24
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Jade doing the tango doesn't mean she's "swapping out" the dud dance. She might just do the rumba next week, right?
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:28
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Jade doing the tango doesn't mean she's "swapping out" the dud dance. She might just do the rumba next week, right?
No reason why not. If, like last year, the dancers get to repeat a dance style it should mean that should she stay in long enough, there'll be time for her to do all of the dances.
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:28
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I'm delighted Jade is back in. Primarily because it means her injury is not serious and she'll be able to do the "Day Job" next year, but also because last weekend was a bad one with my two favourite couples going out, and now one of them is back.
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Old 18-11-2009, 12:49
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I don't think it matters if she does the tango - she's still had to learn and perfect it and will have to keep it up to the mark this week before Saturday, if she actually can perform.

Doing the rumba could lead to another Laila-style moment, which I'd prefer to avoid more than anything.

If she's still in when the time comes to start repeating dances then it'd be fair for her to do the rumba then, having had her 'repeat', as it were, earlier in the series.
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Old 18-11-2009, 13:43
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Erm... the tone of Jade's website, both blog and e-mails, is "I'm doing what I can but don't count your chickens". Perhaps we'll hear more on ITT tonight.

That prog really is becoming required viewing. I'm even prepared to suffer Superfans for it.

(Feltz, Blair, Grant yesterday though, OMG!)

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Old 18-11-2009, 13:45
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BBC twitter say:

"LATEST NEWS: (PART 1): We await further medical advice regarding Jade Johnson's injury...

LATEST NEWS: (PART 2)... No decision has yet been made as to whether Jade will be able to dance this Saturday night on Strictly"

They managed to post that just as I asked them whether or not she'd be allowed to tango...
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Old 18-11-2009, 13:58
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So it's not confirmed Jade can dance then?

I thought her blog was ambiguous and the Daily Mail story seemed to be just pulled from that.

If Jade gets sponsorship from British Athletics might there be insurance implications for the BBC - hence the cautious approach from the BBC doctors?
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:01
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So it's not confirmed Jade can dance then?

I thought her blog was ambiguous and the Daily Mail story seemed to be just pulled from that.

If Jade gets sponsorship from British Athletics might there be insurance implications for the BBC - hence the cautious approach from the BBC doctors?
No, it's not confirmed yet.

Jade said herself that the BBC's medical staff were being more cautious than her physio because they're more used to dance injuries. It could well be that Jade's physio will say she's OK to go, but the BBC won't let her in the end.

Keeping my fingers crossed for her anyway!
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:07
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So it's not confirmed Jade can dance then?

I thought her blog was ambiguous and the Daily Mail story seemed to be just pulled from that.

If Jade gets sponsorship from British Athletics might there be insurance implications for the BBC - hence the cautious approach from the BBC doctors?
I believe I'm right in saying that Jade doesn't have any sort of sponsorship at the moment. Her lottery funding was withdrawn in the season before the last Olympics because she had suffered so many injuries and hadn't been able to compete. She lived off her own money while she trained for Beijing. She also missed most of this last season (again injury) and as far as I know still does not have any funding. If she has, I missed any news about it.
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:11
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She doesn't have to have one day's training. She'll have to do the studio rehearsals and that will give her a couple of gos at the routine to refresh her memory of it and change anything required.



Because she'll clearly be so much better than he will?

I would rather Jade complete all the dances if she is to stay in the competition and therefore it's better she does the tango now. If she does it later, she definitely will have extra training time for it.
In the earlier stages of the competition, there are several contestants doing the same dance each week, so why is it a problem now if both Jade & Ricky do the tango on the same week?


It's not a matter of fitness, surely, it's a matter of time. Jade's been declared fit enough to dance but that happened late enough in the week that she probably won't have enough time to learn the new dance. Pro dancers can learn new routines quickly, I'm sure, but it must be a lot harder for the contestants.
Just to answer the Ricky question. I know they've danced the same dance earlier in the competition and to all intents they were judged and marked in comparison.

My point is (regardless of who is stronger or weaker in the dance) is it fair that Ricky will be compared to another dancer when none of the others are in the same position? I keep thinking would Natalie have got the same score for her FT if Chris or Jade had also been doing the same dance on the same weekend. Somehow i can't see it.
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:15
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Just to answer the Ricky question. I know they've danced the same dance earlier in the competition and to all intents they were judged and marked in comparison.

My point is (regardless of who is stronger or weaker in the dance) is it fair that Ricky will be compared to another dancer when none of the others are in the same position? I keep thinking would Natalie have got the same score for her FT if Chris or Jade had also been doing the same dance on the same weekend. Somehow i can't see it.
Fair enough. I didn't think of that.
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:21
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There is another thing to take into account - and that is could she train for two dances next week
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:23
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I am selfishly hoping she will be ok, and that if she is she will do the tango. I loathe the rhumba at the best of times.

On a more general note I have no interest in sport what so ever but since watching Jade on SCD I will be cheering her on if she is long jumping in the future. I may even make an exception and tune in for that bit of the Olympics

Best wishes Jade!
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:31
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I am selfishly hoping she will be ok, and that if she is she will do the tango. I loathe the rhumba at the best of times.

On a more general note I have no interest in sport what so ever but since watching Jade on SCD I will be cheering her on if she is long jumping in the future. I may even make an exception and tune in for that bit of the Olympics

Best wishes Jade!
I do like sport, but normally not any of the atletics disciplines, but as you I'll be watching for her come 2012.

I hope she's back next saturday but if not I can fully understand. Her career comes first.
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Old 18-11-2009, 14:35
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I do like sport, but normally not any of the atletics disciplines, but as you I'll be watching for her come 2012.

I hope she's back next saturday but if not I can fully understand. Her career comes first.
Indeed it does.

It makes me smile to think that there might be a whole new contingent of long jumping fans in the future, all cheering Jade on whilst wear sparkles and rhinestones! We would stand out in the crowd amongst all the tracksuits
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Old 18-11-2009, 16:00
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Indeed it does.

It makes me smile to think that there might be a whole new contingent of long jumping fans in the future, all cheering Jade on whilst wear sparkles and rhinestones! We would stand out in the crowd amongst all the tracksuits
Count me in - big earrings and sparkly eye shadow to boot

Even with all that's going on, Jade took the time to reply to a message I sent - and within a very short space of time too.

Thank you Jade, hope we see you on Saturday x
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Old 18-11-2009, 16:10
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Count me in - big earrings and sparkly eye shadow to boot

Even with all that's going on, Jade took the time to reply to a message I sent - and within a very short space of time too.
Thank you Jade, hope we see you on Saturday x
Not sure whether that is actually Jade. I received a message too. They all are built up in a similar way, but I love the fact that whom ever answers them puts in a little something that really makes you feel like it was actually read!! Love it!

Oh and being a sports fanatic (any sport that is).. Count me in too!! Jade all the way, going for gold!!

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Old 18-11-2009, 16:39
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I'm not optimistic. If something popped in her knee then it could a cruciate ligament injury which is so serious that she's unlikely to start her Olympic training on time but, if it was an ACL or DCL it should have been diagnosed by now. There is some hope but not much.
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Old 18-11-2009, 16:43
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I'm not optimistic. If something popped in her knee then it could a cruciate ligament injury which is so serious that she's unlikely to start her Olympic training on time but, if it was an ACL or DCL it should have been diagnosed by now. There is some hope but not much.
It has been diagnosed. She has a grade two tear of the medial collateral ligament.
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Old 18-11-2009, 16:56
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It has been diagnosed. She has a grade two tear of the medial collateral ligament.
That doesn't sound too bad. Is she likely to dance this week?
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