I am a big fan of althetics and Jade is no where near a medal contender at the minute. I like her on strictly though.

Loving your work too zankoku87

Thank you kindly. Can't hold a candle to your amazing post before, though!

Muchos Gracias (sp?)

drbol . " clap clap clap ". Well said , and about time too .!!!

Thanks for the lecture but I understand the physiology perfectly well, having a clinical background myself .....

My point is that ultimately she has no more than 6 days to recover, train and go back out and perform a new dance .... no matter how good a recovery she makes, she still stands to jeopardise her entire career and for what ? .... a cheap, sparkly glitter ball rather than Olympic gold !

Disagree for several reasons. First, an experienced doc will be able to tell from the swelling and whether someone can put any weight at all on a leg, how serious, or potentially serious an injury is.

Secondly, Jade was hopping off the set on Sat afternoon, so evidently couldn't put any weight on it. Laila was walking, and then did manage to do a bit of the Rhumba.

Thirdly, Jade has grown up in a world where you don't show weakness, and is used to injury, Laila hasn't. Jade being that upset, and concerned about her training showed how bad it was and how frightened she was. Laila was in pain disappointed and embarrassed, and I'm afraid is probably more sheltered than Jade, so I would expect her to cry more easily and have a lower pain threshold.

In fact, once she got the public sympathy vote for barely dancing at all, Laila had much more of an advantage, as she could get a bye this Saturday, but if Jade doesn't dance, she's out completely. Laila could get the sympathy vote again. Jade is less likely to get it, even though there may be more genuine sympathy for her, because people don't want her to jeopardise her athletics career for a dancing competition.

For goodness sake put this issue to rest and stop trying to state as fact what is only your own opinion.

No, no unfair advantage. Laila did not fall down the stairs properly for it to be serious enough. Anyway, it does not look good for Jade, it's Thursday already and no decision yet. I guess she's not training and even if she started right now, she wouldn't have time enough to learn a new dance. Unless they let her perform the tango.

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Jades career was not in serious doubt. It was made to seem to be in serious doubt by the train that is reality TV. Clearly Jade was worried but that is a natural reaction, not serious doubt. No one can write of a career that quickly - athletes come back from all sort of major injuries. Time tells. She may or may not have a problem in the future but no one will know for some time. All the rest is reality TV gush.

Jade may have an advantage over Laila but that come directly from the medical result. Jade was told not to dance. Laila was told she could - just as many other dancers have in past weeks.

This ain't rocket science and so many people are making mountains out of molehills.

Laila has proved that it is possible to avoid the dance off by virtue of the the public vote.
Jade could return this week, do a basic rumba within the limits of her injury (if that is at all possible) and still get through to the following week if she gets enough public support.

Phil danced after a knee op that nornally you should rest for weeks with so no sympathy here for Laila!

Sorry I havent replied before but I went to bed.

Anyway I dont see why you have no sympathy for Laila as she did the exact same as Phil.Its Jade that got the week off this week

I agree totally with allyfree that as an olympic athlete she should have decided to concentrate on her career and give this SCD a miss if this injury is as bad as we were all given to beleive

Great post yesterday by DrBol. Said it all.

But has it got through? I fear not...:yawn:

You know what Bhoy? You're absolutely right. Laila did the exact same as Phil, apart from he did a whole dance and she did half a one. But that's not a difference really is it? I mean, they still both got up and did their dances, they didn't decide not to like Jade did.

Jad was told NOT to dance by the doctor (as an instruction), Jade had to accept that instruction.

Laila was told that she COULD dance by the doctor (as advice). Laila did not have to accept that advice.

First of all............Bhoy starts thread with an agenda.........his agenda is to get Chris to win SCD because he has a bet on him to win......he thinks that Jade is a big problem in this scenario because she is popular on the forum and wants to whip up indignation that might result in people not voting for her (if she comes back) you might notice that he doesnt start threads slagging off Ricky W because there are enough of those already.

I think we urgently need a subforum with bhoy's threads

....but preferably an incinerator

It's having the opposite effect though. I have noticed people posting in support of Jade in Bhoy's threads who previously didn't care either way about her. If she can dance and she wins the show she may have Bhoy to thank

Conspiracy theory number 95, but you could be right. I wonder who his money is really on.

With respect Allyfree, come off your high horse and realise I wasnt giving you a lecture on physiology, but having a discussion with you about your opinion. There is a difference. My post was made with good intentions.

And lecturing about physiology has got nowt to do with Jade's injury now, its about the progression of her recovery. Unless you want to give the FMs on here a snapshot into the various processes of healing in inury?

Your point is that she still stands to jeapordise her career if she dances on saturday. Well my point is that Im more than happy for her to dance if the medical and physio experts tell her she can. If there was one iota of risk to her career, she wont dance. But expecting her to make a snap decision about whether to dance or not in a few days last weekend when she didnt know the full extent of the injury until the day afterward isnt fair. She will be working intensively with the docs and physios to establish the prognosis of her injury and like I said previously, that will take time. Medicine isnt always about snap judgements and immediate concrete statements about progression and prognosis, with your clinical background you should know this.

If she doesnt dance on saturday, well best of luck for her and her recovery.

If she does dance on saturday, I will be happy enough to accept the expert's opinion that it is ok for her to do so and will hopefully enjoy a beautiful tango.
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Couldn't agree more!

It makes you wonder.