"trying to erase Rachel from Strictly History?"

Paranoia, thy name is Tyler.

And as for that Rumba, on the TV series the moves might have been phwoar!, but the expression was her usual poker face. Perhaps she got better on the tour, I didn't see it.

WHO!? Oh... her!

Maybe because she didn't have much personality, wasn't very entertaining, and had probably the biggest unfair advantage the show has ever seen? Just my opinion...

Why's it rude to say someone was over-marked. If you think what people have said about Lisa is bad then you should try being a Kelly Brook or Matt DA fan.

I thought that both Rachel's and Cherie's rhumbas were excellent and I don't usually like the rhumba. I get the impression that Len just prefers Cherie's as he finds Rachel's a bit too raunchy and although trying to repair James's image with the public and the ease of Cherie's as opposed to Rachel's dance for Claudia to do could also be factors.

I loved her AS I've got to say the AT was good and probably the best technically but I love Maren's so much that to be honest it will probably never be beaten by anyone's for me no matter what anyone else says.

Um... what was her unfair advantage?

was this one better..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khp8s...eature=related

and why did craig only give a 9 BOTH times

Rachel being erased from Strictly history? Hardly - She regularly appears on ITT VTs. Far more than Ramprakash and Dixon too who were more popular.
She was a brilliant dancer but, as we all know, SCD is more than that and without the judges she'd have got nowhere near the final. I was going to mention one of Craig's many memorable quotes but I fear it may upset some.

Len and Claudia struggled to recreate Cherie's last night. I thought Claudia was going to impale herself or Len on her heels and that Len was going to have a hernia.

It would have been ironic if a newly fit Jade were to interview an injured Claudia on the sofa prior to tomorrow's show!

Then you obviously didn't read my post.

Which VTs? Link please.

Which ITT VTs has Rachel featured in? I can't remember any, yet I've seen Mark and Alesha more than once.

Thanks.....As I said she won virtually every show.

disagree - I don't remember Rachel being on a VT once this year

in fact when I read OP I thought exactly the same thing

I was supporting her that year (no-one else to support) but I can only remember the AT and rumba, she wasn't that memorable although 'good'

Given that it looks like each Masterclass is going to feature a 'memorable' version of the dance, isn't it just possible that Rachel is lined up for something like the AT?

I know she did not win, but would she make a better judge than Alesha ?

No. I feel she works best with someone to bounce off like Vincent but I feel that she would be overwhelmed on the panel.

And as for Rachel not appearing on the VTs, I feel they are waiting for a tango masterclass as her's was the best ever.

she was absolutely nothing on lisa...lisa had the wow factor and should have won.
rachel bored the pants off me.
at least people had a vocal opinion on lisa, instead of completely disregarding her.
as for her rumba...the dance of romance...well if my girlfriend had her expression i would seriously be worried!

I could actually imagine Rachel sat on the judging panel, but she would get even more backlash than Alesha.

I didn't paticularly have an opinion on Lisa but since the glorious *gasp in awe* Rachel is being challenged I feel the need to step in.

Lisa Snowdon was one of the most overmarked celebs in the history of strictly. Rachel was one of the BEST BEST BEST dancers in Strictly history. Lisa couldn't dance Latin to save her life, I admit to her Ballroom excellance but was never good at Latin. The Showdance sealed it all.

Rachel was a FAR FAR superior dancer.

I couldn't accept Rachel as a judge - but she should have won last year - no question and I too find it odd that she is rarely mentioned.

As for Len not liking 'raunchy' - he liked it enough to awared 10's twice.

That went through my mind too.

I could have accepted John Sergeant as a better winner than Tom Chambers. And nobody dare tell me the Show Dance won him the competition, it was obvious Tom was going to win whether he performed that dance or not. Heck! He could have writhed around like Lisa Snowdon for 90seconds and still taken the trophy.

Rachel should have won, she was the best dancer.

Lisa could have won, she was good at Ballroom and had a 'journey'.

Austin could have won, he was very good and consistent all round.

Tom could have... *thinks deeply*... *thinking, thinking*... Nope, nothing!

lisas showdance didnt count for anything though. as she was already out at that point. i am sure you will agree that it should have done and mr stumble should have gone out.
a dancer is only overmarked when they are not your particular favourite. she was extremely good, couldnt dance latin yet got 40 in the final...oh sorry she was overmarked!

No, Lisa was overmarked.
Even though, I would have rather seen her win than Smuggo Chambers.
If Alesha didn't score a perfect 40 how on earth did she score three? I won't begrudge any of her Ballroom dances as they were all superb but the Cha Cha Cha was going too far. The Cha Cha Cha was actually one of my favourite dances, but it was not 40 material.

its a matter of personal opinion though. nobody is right or wrong, and the fact that the 4 judges felt it deserved a perfect score is fair enough. you couldnt say to them 'you overmarked her' because they would just say 'i dont think i did' its their opinion.....this is completely off topic! ha!
oh yeh...rachel, i loved you, you were my crush in primary school, but you arent half boring.