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Old 20-11-2009, 19:43
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That's coming from a 19 year old who used to love RAP!

I like a few artists/bands of/from this decade

eminem, killers, muse, sigur ros, strokes etc

but the pop / rnb side has been terrible and this new grime thingy (chipmunk, tinchy stryder) is just absolutely crap.

I have over 30 albums/singles of artists from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and the dreadful 90s.

The songs i hear on the radio are absolutely crap and sound shite, artists no longer have the "VOICE" but just have the image.

Every decade produces a few good artists and bands but the noughties have produced the WORST of the WORST.

Digital music has played a huge part in this.


and before YOU strike me down, i suggest you take a listen to Sgt Pepper by the Beatles in mono or Back In Black by ACDC or Led Zeppelin IV or A Night In The Opera and then to ANY album thats been in the top 10 0in the last 9 years and take out a worldwide poll, i garuntee the albums ive said will win by a mile.

heck, Summer Wine by Nancy Sinatra against Britney Spear - hit me baby one more time

All artists have a signature song that represent their fame.

Frank Sinatra - My Way
Robbie Williams - Angels - the only comparison thats levelled

chipmunk / tinchy stryder / dizzee rascal or ANY rap / grime / urban artist vs Run DMC. LOL.

i rest my case.

the only people who'd disagree are the people who've notlistened PROPERLY to the music of the 60s to the 80s.
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Old 20-11-2009, 19:52
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Stop listening to the radio, then. Problem solved.

There's plenty of decent music being released today (today being the noughties), that will not receive airplay because it isn't "commercial" enough.
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Old 20-11-2009, 19:57
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and before YOU strike me down, i suggest you take a listen to Sgt Pepper by the Beatles in mono or Back In Black by ACDC or Led Zeppelin IV or A Night In The Opera and then to ANY album thats been in the top 10 0in the last 9 years and take out a worldwide poll, i garuntee the albums ive said will win by a mile.

the only people who'd disagree are the people who've notlistened PROPERLY to the music of the 60s to the 80s.
So true Raffle. Apart from a handful of artists, pop and rock, in comparison to what they formally were are now dead. The loss of singles as a relevant medium, the rise of downloads and other commercial pressures have speeded up the decline.

Britpop was the last brave gasp of a dying music scene. The greatest and most productive era endured a long time but has now come to an end. As Morrissey once said when asked about his musical heroes - 'they're all dead'.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:00
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The only people that start threads like this are people who no idea whatsoever about the amount of good music out there.
It's easier than it's ever been to find it online.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:02
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The only people that start threads like this are people who no idea whatsoever about the amount of good music out there.
It's easier than it's ever been to find it online.
Yep, pretty much.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:03
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The only people that start threads like this are people who no idea whatsoever about the amount of good music out there.
It's easier than it's ever been to find it online.
couldn't agree more. it's as though people expect good music, engineered specifically to their personal tastes, to just drop into their laps.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:08
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The only people that start threads like this are people who no idea whatsoever about the amount of good music out there.
It's easier than it's ever been to find it online.
I've found nothing that good. And I've looked at loads and loads of acts online. The quality has dropped drastically, especially in genres such as blues, folk, soul, reggae etc. There's little on offer there, which also applies to pop.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:09
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Oh FGS.
This is your opinion and by the way Musical taste goes back to 40's and I like the music of those people you've listed and more -I'm sick and tired of people saying ''modern music is so bad'' like it's fact and that the past was some musical masterpiece of music and no bad music ever touched on it.
Each decade has good music and bad music but it is up to individuals to decide what is good or bad for them musically. This decade's music is vastly different from other decades - that doesn't mean it's bad.
Music in sixies had simlar beat and production too it - no one complains about that. Infact, it's a fact I love about music of that era, Four tops, Supremres, Beach Boys, Andy Williams, Beatles, Dusty Springfield, Sandy Shaw, etc. Yet some people complain that modern music ''sounds the same''. To an extent I like the fact that alot of modern tracks have the same styled production.
It's wrong to assume that all modern music is bad when no really has heard ever all modern songs, mostly people hear commercial songs, popular songs, and that is often were they base their view that ''modern music is bad''. The charts have never been the source map for good music and never will be.
Music isn't bad these days - it just isn't to your taste. Just as if I were to say music is good these days - it would only be my opinion.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:09
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I've found nothing that good. And I've looked at loads and loads of acts online. The quality has dropped drastically, especially in genres such as blues, folk, soul, reggae etc. There's little on offer there, which also applies to pop.
Once again, this is all your opinion. Which does not mean that there is nothing good out there at all.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:13
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P.S I've listen to musical genres of the 60's and 70's and 80's. And I still disagree.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:17
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My favourite period for music was the late seventies and early eighties - when I was a teenager, strangely enough - but there has been some really great music released every year since then.

This past couple of years alone, there has been some outstanding albums released by The Eels, Florence and the Machine, Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Kings of Leon, Doves, etc.

Don't use the charts as a barometer of good music. That's just the music that the youngsters happen to buy.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:17
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Music in sixies had simlar beat and production too it - no one complains about that.
Totally wrong I'm afraid, the average 60s pop song is twenty times more inventive than today's offerings.

Production-wise we're talking different universes. Most 60s pop was mono or two track stereo. How is that similar to today's multi-track layered productions?
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:21
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This past couple of years alone, there has been some outstanding albums released by The Eels, Florence and the Machine, Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Kings of Leon, Doves, etc.

Don't use the charts as a barometer of good music. That's just the music that the youngsters happen to buy.
THANK YOU!

Why people assume that good music can be determined by what's in the top 40, I'll never know.

I absolutely adore The Residents, who are probably one of the most inventive and unusual bands ever, and I doubt that they've ever gotten anywhere near the top 40 in this country. Does this make them not good, though? Does it 'eck.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:27
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Totally wrong I'm afraid, the average 60s pop song is twenty times more inventive than today's offerings.

Production-wise we're talking different universes. Most 60s pop was mono or two track stereo. How is that similar to today's multi-track layered productions?
I was saying in MY post if you read it correctly that the music in the sixties had a simlar production style to it as songs within that decade sounded simlar, just like songs in this decade have a simlar sound to them as well. Never said they sounded the same.
Again this is your opinion so please don't you dare come and tell me I'm ''totally wrong'' for having an opinion that differs to yours. I'm basing this on my ears no musical technics. Music is the sixties did have simlar sound to which is why people know a sixties song as soon as they hear it. Same with this decade.
Of course it's two different univerese doesn't mean it's more good or bad than your prefered musical taste.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:35
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here we go again, yet another one of these 'omg all music today is so bad let's all moan about it' threads.

i love much of the artists that OP favours. but i also like a lot of chart stuff these days too (except anything from x factor). don't see why some people think you can't enjoy bands like Muse, Kasabian, for example, without hating the chart acts of today like Britney, Sugababes, or Tinchy Stryder, etc.. narrow-minded thickos.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:42
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Of course it's two different univerese doesn't mean it's more good or bad than your prefered musical taste.
It's not about musical taste, it's about the overall state of music. There are no equivalents to what occurred in the 60s and 70s, nor can there be. It was an explosion of talent that cross-pollenated and formed new genres. Folk, blues and rock filtered into pop to create a remarkable amount of brilliant songs. Later, youth movements like mod, glam and new wave brought more talented acts into the mainstream. The sheer amount of self-written music was probably smaller then than now, but the actual quality was far greater. Today there are countless acts online, but none are making breakthrough inventive and original music.

There are no great youth movements now, those days are gone. And so have the truly great years of pop.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:48
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Not going to debate here. I'm just going to say that I basically agree with the OP.
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:49
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Not going to debate here. I'm just going to say that I basically agree with the OP.
Me too!
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Old 20-11-2009, 20:55
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It's not about musical taste, it's about the overall state of music. There are no equivalents to what occurred in the 60s and 70s, nor can there be. It was an explosion of talent that cross-pollenated and formed new genres. Folk, blues and rock filtered into pop to create a remarkable amount of brilliant songs. Later, youth movements like mod, glam and new wave brought more talented acts into the mainstream. The sheer amount of self-written music was probably smaller then than now, but the actual quality was far greater. Today there are countless acts online, but none are making breakthrough inventive and original music.

There are no great youth movements now, those days are gone. And so have the truly great years of pop.
maybe it feels different, depending on your age.
there are youth movements still on-going, but rather than just one or two that it seems everyone is involved in, to me there are lots of smaller ones that maybe get overlooked because they're not popular with everyone, just different pockets of people.
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:02
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It's not about musical taste, it's about the overall state of music. There are no equivalents to what occurred in the 60s and 70s, nor can there be. It was an explosion of talent that cross-pollenated and formed new genres. Folk, blues and rock filtered into pop to create a remarkable amount of brilliant songs. Later, youth movements like mod, glam and new wave brought more talented acts into the mainstream. The sheer amount of self-written music was probably smaller then than now, but the actual quality was far greater. Today there are countless acts online, but none are making breakthrough inventive and original music.

There are no great youth movements now, those days are gone. And so have the truly great years of pop.
PLEASE!
Listen this all your opinion, view, percepection, perspective etc, etc and etc.
Do not confuse your view as ''fact''. Music of this decade differs to that of the past, yes? Does it mean it's crap? All down your opinion cos guess what? Music is subjective.
It has plently do with musical taste and more. What a large number of people happen to like they will buy and it will get to number. Top 40 is a measure popularity, always been that way. Music has always had it's classics and disposable records, whatever you deem that to be. People with view that their music of the past is was legendary is ''fact'' and have the nerve to tell people that their opinion are wrong often look through the rose tinted glasses of noglastic and do not look at the clear picture.
I will not rubbish the music of the past because I am much of fan of it as you are and will champion it as my opinion till the very end. However I will respect others opinions and apperciate the music this decade has given us wherther I like it or not. It's different, it more sythinsied, more electro pop, influenced.
Their are plently of stars who are making a movement or putting their own mark on pop scene. Because it isn't happening in the Top 40 doen't mean it's non exsistant so please look around the wonderful world of the internet for music to enjoy to your particular taste. One of the more mainstream artists who I feell is very creative is GaGa, but I know you'll slam her as well.
Wherther the great years of pop is still going isn't down to your opinon neither is it mine.
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:05
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Stop listening to the radio, then. Problem solved.

There's plenty of decent music being released today (today being the noughties), that will not receive airplay because it isn't "commercial" enough.
I agree. Leona Lewis, Robbie Williams, Take That and Rhianna are good examples.
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:06
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I agree too. 99.99% of todays stuff is pure garbage. How people think acts like Pixie Lott and Chipmunk (fgs what a dumb a*s name) are talented and will last is laughable. A lot of todays acts are picked mainly on looks so they can sell the package.
How the hell the BEP kept throwing that pile of junk as a number one for so many weeks so the fact that people have cloth ears, it was dire, and dire is being kind.
No matter what is said the music of the 60's & 70's WILL always last the test. The 90's & 00's not a hope in hell will it.
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:13
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I agree too. 99.99% of todays stuff is pure garbage. How people think acts like Pixie Lott and Chipmunk (fgs what a dumb a*s name) are talented and will last is laughable. A lot of todays acts are picked mainly on looks so they can sell the package.
How the hell the BEP kept throwing that pile of junk as a number one for so many weeks so the fact that people have cloth ears, it was dire, and dire is being kind.
No matter what is said the music of the 60's & 70's WILL always last the test. The 90's & 00's not a hope in hell will it.
Opinion...........
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:17
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most of what's being said is only opinion.

some people can admit this, others will try and convince you it's fact.

stick to your guns
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Old 20-11-2009, 21:24
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I agree. Leona Lewis, Robbie Williams, Take That and Rhianna are good examples.
... of the commercial music that receives airplay or of decent music?

Your post isn't clear.
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