Totally agree with this post. Stop listening to the charts, check out gig guides and local pubs and you can find some fantastic music being made, well away from the X Factor karaoke.

If the Beatles are being quoted, then surely the Stones, the Who and groups of that era must also be quoted as being as ground breaking as the Beatles and also for carrying on and producing music right into this decade. a lot of the music that the Beatles members produced after they split as solo artists, frankly to me and I say here and now this is my opinion, has not been good at all, John Lennon made some classic albums, and some Wings stuff was good, but on the whole, it was not the same as the Beatles.

My all time favourite group UB40 has been together now for 30 years, with one line up change in that time, their old stuff gets played on the radio, but how many times do you hear their new stuff which is excellent being played? They play to full houses across the world and are held in high regard in the music industry, yet have never won any awards and as for the Brits, they have never existed. I would love to see the group get some recognition for their back catalogue and the new music they are producing as well, and I will be at the LG Arena next month singing my heart out to all their stuff.

We all tend to love the era of music that represents us being teenagers, for me it is 1979 - 1985/6, produced for me the best music, but having said that, I enjoy music being produced currently and love music from the '60's onwards.

A lot of what is in the charts is disposable, but it is no different really to other decades, I can remember people saying the same about '90's music, yet there was some really good stuff produced, in years to come, people will find the good stuff that has been produced this decade and appreciate it more.

In my opinion there is still good stuff being released out there. You just have to look outside the top 10 singles chart.

The problem for me is what is popular (especially in the uk) is really boring and predictable. People are buying it though. So I guess as far as the charts go we have to deal with at as no matter how much people moan the x factor winner single will still sell a stupid amount and there will always be people making fortunes lip synching instead of singing live.

Most of the posters in this thread haven't been top 10 sheep and yet still haven't found much modern stuff that interests them - no one is addressing this point.

The point is, just because you haven't heard much that is to your taste, doesn't mean there isn't plenty of good music being made today. I'm sure there is loads of stuff these people haven't heard yet.

For example, to the guy who likes straight forward pop/rock like Coldplay and Travis, I would recommend bands like Spoon, My Morning Jacket, Okkervil River, The Shins, The Decemberists. Consistently good bands with really catchy, uncomplicated pop/rock songs that you unfortunately don't really get to hear in the UK.

Of course, it also depends on the person giving the artist a fair chance by listening to them properly rather than writing them off straight away after only half a song.

Very good point, Kat. To be honest, putting my head on the block as a heretic here, I would take The Stones and The Who, and add to this Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and even Genesis (especially early Peter Gabriel era stuff, and "Mama"), over The Beatles any day of the week. I have tried and tried, but they, The Beatles, just do absolutely nothing, musically, for me. It's decent sounding stuff, I won't deny that, but I just don't get them like other people do.


Because it's an erroneous one. Are you actually reading the thread as a whole, or only certain posts by certain forum members? This is not the case.

Can't agree with people saying the 90s was rubbish for music, but thats just my personal opinion. Most of my music collection is made up of 90s music.

I love 60s 70s 80s 90s and early 00s everything from ballads to trance, although I never got into rap/hip hop.

Those of you complaining about "another music today is crap" thread, I don't remember forums full of people complaining about todays music back in 1999 when I first got online. Maybe i'm wrong though...

Personally, I just don't get the music in the charts today but maybe it's just because i'm getting old... late 30s anyway...

I'm 17. Normal teenager: like clubbing, parties - all that stuff. But I wish they'd offer better music in these places.

I don't listen to the radio anymore. It's just my ipod all the time.
It all started when I "discovered" the Beatles. They changed everything for me. Not just music but my perception, my fashion, my views. Their music is incredible, truely incredible and NOTHING matches it.

But I listen to loads of other artists from 60s and a bit from the 70s: the Hollies, the Beach Boys, the Rolling Stones, the Who, Queen, Paul McCartney and the Wings, the Monkees, Hermans Hermits, the Velvet Underground, etc.etc.etc.
And nothing of today lifts my spirits like that music.

Sure, we can't expect another Beatles.
There will never be another John, Paul, George and Ringo.
But something even REMOTELY GOOD would be nice. There seems to be nothing these days. I like Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco.... but compare it to 60s and 70s and you're laughing.

theres a lot of clans out there in music land but unfortunate for music its the commercial side that has the most members, cover versions mutilated with drum beats
and horns and oohs and ahhhs to stay fresh (granny still likes them lol ) .

It is subjective - because no matter how you look at it everyone percieves things differently - therefore opinions are formed, then it therefore leads to subjectivity.

When did you become of oracle of musical quality?
Because many people hold the same opinion on an arist doesn't make it fact.

Excellent post! In fact, post of the thread so far

Again, this is your opinion. It seems when people talk about their distaste for music of this decade they present their opinion as fact. Firstly, I listen to and own the material of some of the bands you've listed including the Beatles. I agree their wonderful.
However at the same time, what you find ''not remotly good'' another will find great. I'm not saying this decade has produced musical masterpieces, I don't think any decade has, however I don't think it's as dire as people say it.

Are you insinuating that those who like some music in the Top 10 are sheep? PLEASE.....
I don't like all top 10 tracks but their few I like. Are calling me a sheep???????

Saying that music nowadays is crap is an opinion
Some people say they like this music and some say they dont. Obvious by this thread you dont like it, so get over it, most people arent going to take a blind bit of notice what you think. The music is out there so if you dont like it dont listen. There are thousands of artists out there who are good but you are so busy trying to compare them to a different era/age or whatever your never going to notice.
WE LIVE IN THE 21ST CENTURY THINGS ARE BOUND TO BE DIFFERENT, GET OVER IT

None of these have produced any classic songs that will be remembered in the future.

Eels only recognisable song is Mr. E's Beautiful Blues and most people think it's Beck.

And Kings of Leon's most recognisable song - Sex on Fire - is no classic. Catchy chorus but the lyrics are meaningless and not interesting in any way.

Oh no, it's a fact. Not an opinion. Apparently. Musical taste became universal, judged by people who don't like today's music, as opposed to subjective, overnight.

I do not understand why people feel the need to criticise something they don't like. I don't like what my brother listens to, which is mainly black/doom/heavy/thrash/etc metal, but do I criticise it? No, I don't. Listen to what you (general "you") like, and shut up about it. You won't change anyone's minds by carrying on trying to beat the point to death.

That's very true Most of Ringo's albums were weak, he made one classic though; some of Ringo's albums bombed and were actually deleted. Wings had a dodgy spell in the mid-70s, likewise George Harrison. JL's a different kettle of fish, we'll never know if his material would have declined.

The Who & Stones were groundbreaking, but most of the music biz acknowledges The Beatles as the act that wrought the most changes overall.

All these acts were more productive than today's top echelon release-wise. They put out one, sometimes two albums a year at their peak.

Thanks I think I heard The Decemberists once, but I'll definitely check the others out too

You're right. I never criticize anyone's taste in music, art, furniture, whatever, as it is their taste; so how can it be wrong? I like many records that I know full well are naff, but I like them just the same. Someone mentioned Herman's Hermits; most critics write them off as being twee bubblegum, which they are, but I enjoy them nonetheless.

I think it's reasonable to debate relative merits though.

I don't think I've ever heard anything by Herman's Hermits, though I have heard of them. If that makes sense. I especially cannot criticise anyone else's taste in music as I quite like a song by ..


Oh, definitely. It's just when people start considering their opinion to be a fact that my back gets up.

How the hell would you know? Do you have a Crystal ball?

I personally think music is great these days, well the stuff I LIKE is, but thats the whole point really. It's personal taste. What I will say though is the choice and variety of music around today is so vast there really is something for everyone and if your like me and have incredibly varied tastes then its like being a kid in a sweetshop. So many different and interesting sounds to pleasure ones ears with.

OP you're just falling into the age old trap of:

"Music these days, it's just a noise, young un's wouldn't know good music if it slapped them in the face, when I was a nipper we used to have real bands that played their own instruments and everything".

The charts have always been manufactured pop for the masses, from Motown to The Hit Factory to Simon Cowell, away from the charts there's lots of great music.

Different times.

The Stones were pretty much a covers band for their first 3 albums and first 4 singles. The Beatles and The Who also did a lot of covers early in their recording careers, though they certainly churned out a lot of plastic in a short period of time.

They did all get the knack for writing decent songs though.

Yes, this is precisely what's happening. A very well put post Horseman I agree completely.