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The Darkness - over played, over advertised and over everything else! |
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The Darkness - over played, over advertised and over everything else!
WHt the hell is with the darkness? Every channel on TV, every radio station and mag around has their toung lodged up their arse!!!!
I think it is a nice change to see a band like the Darkness (even though they are not the kind music I listan to, but it sure beats some shite out at the moment!) They have some good tunes and vids. But does everyone really have to suck up to them!?! Not many people heard of them tilelast year then everyone wants a piece! MTV, Kerrang, C4, Radio 1! PLEASE STOP! I am fed up of hearing about the darkness and how great they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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but you see the thing is, the darkness really are great!
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The thing is Hawkins is the best thing in a catsuit since Big Daddy.
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I think what annoys me most about The Darkness is that I genuinely don't like them but it appears that it's really not the done thing to say that, certainly to some of my friends anyway.... If I ever do I'm met with a chorus of 'But why not? They're the saviours of British rock!'
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Originally Posted by binty
I think what annoys me most about The Darkness is that I genuinely don't like them but it appears that it's really not the done thing to say that, certainly to some of my friends anyway.... If I ever do I'm met with a chorus of 'But why not? They're the saviours of British rock!'
Yours is a far more eloquent reply than mine, but I think we're on the same wavelength and agree that to date, The Darkness have been overhyped. The reason for their popularity is that they don't take themsleves too seriously to the casual onlooker. Hence, true music lovers like you and I, can't be arsed with them as they have yet to match the high quality, musical dexterity and catchy numbers of those bands they try to (and the media circus believe, do..) emulate. Utter b@ll@ck$! Apparently, I've heard on the grapevine that their next album is going to be more prog than glam...now that would be interesting. If they pulled that off, maybe prog would be fashionable again after all!! Lol
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Indeed, the darkness is overrated and overplayed.
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Hello again Binty - good to see you around again.
Apparently, I've heard on the grapevine that there next album is going to be more prog than glam...not that would be interesting. If they pulled that off, maybe prog would be fashionable again after all!! Lol ![]() Have been a busy binty, no time for the net, but being as it's Sunday... ![]() The Darkness go prog? God forbid, lol !!! I've never been a fan of Glam as a genre so I'm not offended by The Darkness (as much as I dislike them)... I'm not going to take badly done prog lying down though!
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Originally Posted by binty
I think what annoys me most about The Darkness is that I genuinely don't like them but it appears that it's really not the done thing to say that, certainly to some of my friends anyway.... If I ever do I'm met with a chorus of 'But why not? They're the saviours of British rock!'
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I'm glad to find I'm not alone too!
I was starting to think that I'd lost the plot or something and that I was really missing something amazing about them that everyone else apart from me could see...
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I'm glad to find I'm not alone too!
I was starting to think that I'd lost the plot or something and that I was really missing something amazing about them that everyone else apart from me could see...
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Hello again Binty - good to see you around again.
Yours is a far more eloquent reply than mine, but I think we're on the same wavelength and agree that to date, The Darkness have been overhyped. The reason for their popularity is that they don't take themsleves too seriously to the casual onlooker. Hence, true music lovers like you and I, can't be arsed with them as they have yet to match the high quality, musical dexterity and catchy numbers of those bands they try to (and the media circus believe, do..) emulate. Utter b@ll@ck$! Apparently, I've heard on the grapevine that their next album is going to be more prog than glam...now that would be interesting. If they pulled that off, maybe prog would be fashionable again after all!! Lol ![]() |
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I quite like the Darkness, but I don't listen to mainstream radio or watch programmes that shamelessly plug celebrities. I therefore don't see the excess hype, but on the odd occasion I watch something veguely commercial its just the Darkness everywhere. Since rock is the new pop, they'be become the next big thing. Maybe they get kids interested in older rock music than thats good, but as a single enitity they are not all they are hyped up to be.
In summary, I like they're music, in moderation
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I think The Darkness are okay, and would be better with a decent singer. Their massive popularity is rather baffling though, and is a possible follow on from the odd trend in wearing rock band tee-shirts that began to infect my TV in recent times.
Certainly not a patch on most of the bands they try to copy though, but at least they are a proper band which is more than can be said about a lot of the stuff that gets into the charts these days. Now, in my day..... etc etc yawn. |
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I love the darkness. Their album is full of great songs, like I used to enjoy back in the seventies. I dont care how old fashioned and retro they are. This is the sort of music I love. and as a 'true music lover' myself, I play guitar have done for 30 years, I can quite honestly say that some of the musical moments in the Darkness album are awesome. Their use of harmonic structure and classical based construction is masterfull, especially the guitar solos.
Thank god for the darkness I say
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Build them up to knock them down.
I hated the vocals on first hearing Permission To Land but, gradually, I realised it was an integral part of The Darkness' sound. Everything on it's merits - if the second album is pants then so be it but the first was excellent. I will not defend The Darkness as I am not a "fan" but they are better to listen to then some others. They made it onto 2DTV last night - very funny .....
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i really loved the darkness when they came out but im goin off them a bit now
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Great band, but overrated. It seems the whole show of the Brits was focused on them .. dyer .. People say 'they're the best Rock band .. yeah, sure .. they're Pop .. focused for a mainstream audience, that alone makes them pop .. whatever instruments they play.
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I read that they want £1 million to play Glastonbury and last year they got £75! If that isn't believing in your own hype, what is?
They played the Isle of Wight Festival last year and if the IOW Council had paid they that sort of money, I'm witholding my council tax! |
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Certainly not a patch on most of the bands they try to copy though, but at least they are a proper band which is more than can be said about a lot of the stuff that gets into the charts these days. Now, in my day..... etc etc yawn.
Ahh the Sweet, were the best thing since......well nothing really. If The Darkness come close to the genius that was the Sweet (and add another 30 years of development to the idea into the bargain) then I might consider downloading....sorry... snapping up their album from the car boot sale. |
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Even I know that prog-rock was never fashionable. Not even Pink Floyd.
Our interpretations of fashionable are different. Believe it or not, everything is not always so black and white. So:[list][*]Pink Floyd being the Gods of the London underground amongst the student fraternity during the mid - late sixties was not fashionable;[*]The hype and media fanfare surrounding the birth of the supergroup ELP (ex-Nice, ex-King Crimson and ex-Atomic Rooster and Arthur Brown) was not fashionable then, even when Hendrix expressed a desire to join (which would have made them HELP!);[*]Rick Wakemen managing to sell out massive and utterly preposterous shows of his music set to battles and dance on Ice, with medieval costumes and pantomine horses, night after night, was not fashionable;[*]Pink Floyd remaining in both the UK and Billboard charts with Dark Side of the Moon for years and years, was not fashionable;[/list] That's just for starters - a basic misinterpretation for fashionable is that it has to be the latest trend for a certain age/peer group. I disagree. For me fashionable is popular and prog has survived more storms than the Caribbean in September. When The Darkness have sold more product and shifted more units than Yes, Genesis, ELP and Floyd, I might feel as if I have a reasonable debate on my hands. ![]() Whilst there are those amongst us who prefer to look beyond three chords and a basic verse, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, solo, chorus to fade three minute song, prog will remain with us and will remain popular. Prog is obviously too clever for those who don't appreciate a merging of styles, classical leanings, virtuoso musicianship and songs within songs. For me, you can't beat it and, as you've probably gathered, I'll defend it to the hilt. Prog is an art - long live prog! Lol
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Horses for courses then.
Our interpretations of fashionable are different. Believe it or not, everything is not always so black and white. So:[list][*]Pink Floyd being the Gods of the London underground amongst the student fraternity during the mid - late sixties was not fashionable;[*]The hype and media fanfare surrounding the birth of the supergroup ELP (ex-Nice, ex-King Crimson and ex-Atomic Rooster and Arthur Brown) was not fashionable then, even when Hendrix expressed a desire to join (which would have made them HELP!);[*]Rick Wakemen managing to sell out massive and utterly preposterous shows of his music set to battles and dance on Ice, with medieval costumes and pantomine horses, night after night, was not fashionable;[*]Pink Floyd remaining in both the UK and Billboard charts with Dark Side of the Moon for years and years, was not fashionable;[/list] That's just for starters - a basic misinterpretation for fashionable is that it has to be the latest trend for a certain age/peer group. I disagree. For me fashionable is popular and prog has survived more storms than the Caribbean in September. When The Darkness have sold more product and shifted more units than Yes, Genesis, ELP and Floyd, I might feel as if I have a reasonable debate on my hands. ![]() Whilst there are those amongst us who prefer to look beyond three chords and a basic verse, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, solo, chorus to fade three minute song, prog will remain with us and will remain popular. Prog is obviously too clever for those who don't appreciate a merging of styles, classical leanings, virtuoso musicianship and songs within songs. For me, you can't beat it and, as you've probably gathered, I'll defend it to the hilt. Prog is an art - long live prog! Lol ![]() I don't think being fashionable is that important. Queen, Phil Collins, Dire Straits etc. were never fashionable but equally never struggled to shift records. |
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You know me - any chance for a rant. Prog has been an easy target for too long, especially when there is no decent arguement against it. Prog hardly touches the singles charts and gets no airplay, so how do those that claim they dislike it, get to hear this stuff in the first place? Do they seek it out, just so they can slag it? Or, do they just make assumptions based on current media values and follow like sheeps to the slaughter to what they are told is fashionable?
I prefer to make up my own mind when I've considered all the facts. Somehow, I get the impression, others don't. As for Queen, Dire Straights and Phil Collins, they were very popular. Given the choice, do you think they would have prefered to be part of a craze - a fifteen minute wonder - then disappear as quickly as they hit the scene, or do you think they'd settle to do it all again the way they did it first time around? Rhetorical question as the answer is obvious. So, to me, their popularity (and longevity) made them fashionable, but not the latest chic!
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Fasionable? I spit in the general direction of fashionable!
Good point well made though Megson
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If you had an album that has sold over 1 million copies in the Uk and over 2 million copies in the US then I think every radio station and TV station is going to want a piece. The same go for The Darkness. Also they have another single released with in the week. so they would be on every radio station and every music channel.
Just look at it this way if it was The Darkness it would be some other pop/rap crap taking their place. |
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Completly agree with you ElRawns.
I USED to be a fan, until they were over played and over egoed (is that a word...well it is now). Now whenever they come on tv i just turn over, most of my friends agree with me because The Darkness used to do it for the music, now they just want money, i have lost faith in them completly. |
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Have been a busy binty, no time for the net, but being as it's Sunday...
