LMAO pots and kettles come to mind.
Cheryl thinks Danyl sings flat...
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Cheryl isn't being judged for a start.
She is also the first to admit that she is not the greatest singer.
The difference is Danyl actually believes he is all that.
She is also the first to admit that she is not the greatest singer.
The difference is Danyl actually believes he is all that.
Originally Posted by Blahgirl:
“LMAO pots and kettles come to mind.”
“LMAO pots and kettles come to mind.”
Definitely, if she is so great why does she have to mime her songs?
Just proves what "girls aloud" are really like, how embarassing it must be to know you cannot sing but because you were part of a no-one-can-sing group miming is allowed.
Im must admit I think every week how can she sit there and diss these singers about flat notes etc when they get up and sing live each week. And she never sang live once on the X factor. Every time she sang with GA or on her own she always mimed.
She was right on this occasion. But it is as ironic as Louis knocking Danyl for his 'unlikeability'.
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“Every time she sang with GA or on her own she always mimed.”
“Every time she sang with GA or on her own she always mimed.”
Not here she didn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcY1rH8x2Qs
although I bet she wished she had. Forward to about 0.56 and hear for yourself (if you can't bear listening all the way through).
Originally Posted by Tumblin Dice:
“She was right though.”
“She was right though.”
A slight wobble at the start... the noting of which she made no attempt to redress in a constrictive manner by outlining the merits of the substantive which came after the inital waver...
That said... I suppose it could be argued that Cheryl may actually have difficulty in terms of divining/comprehending all manner of vocal/singing techniques - especially as her own 'interesting' singing ability[sic] seems largely devoid of the application of breathe, scale and diction etc.
I'm more than prepared - especially calibrating for the evidence of my own ears - to give Cheryl the benefit of the doubt and accept that she is not in the least qualified to make determinations re: technique and thereby take the notion with a pinch.
I think all the contestants every week hit flat or sharp notes throughout the course of a song as do most of the singers who top our charts, its really not something thats so important unless a whole phrase or verse is completely out of tune like Danyl when he sang areosmith or Olly generally. 
But tonight it was just the odd note it and it was a hard song to sing he did a good performance, fight for this love isnt a hard song to sing yet there were far more bum notes in that performance than there was in Danyls.
I am not a Danyl supporter in the slightest by the way.
But tonight it was just the odd note it and it was a hard song to sing he did a good performance, fight for this love isnt a hard song to sing yet there were far more bum notes in that performance than there was in Danyls.
I am not a Danyl supporter in the slightest by the way.
Originally Posted by Deerd:
“A slight wobble at the start... the noting of which she made no attempt to redress in a constrictive manner by outlining the merits of the substantive which came after the inital waver...
That said... I suppose it could be argued that Cheryl may actually have difficulty in terms of divining/comprehending all manner of vocal/singing techniques - especially as her own 'interesting' singing ability[sic] seems largely devoid of the application of breathe, scale and diction etc.
I'm more than prepared - especially calibrating for the evidence of my own ears - to give Cheryl the benefit of the doubt and accept that she is not in the least qualified to make determinations re: technique and thereby take the notion with a pinch.”
“A slight wobble at the start... the noting of which she made no attempt to redress in a constrictive manner by outlining the merits of the substantive which came after the inital waver...
That said... I suppose it could be argued that Cheryl may actually have difficulty in terms of divining/comprehending all manner of vocal/singing techniques - especially as her own 'interesting' singing ability[sic] seems largely devoid of the application of breathe, scale and diction etc.
I'm more than prepared - especially calibrating for the evidence of my own ears - to give Cheryl the benefit of the doubt and accept that she is not in the least qualified to make determinations re: technique and thereby take the notion with a pinch.”
It was a bit more than a bit of a wobble at the beginning. His pitching was generally iffy, as it often is. Watch the X Factor YouTube video at the second big note and change arounf 1 minute 48 seconds. A real nightmare moment. If you cant do it, don't do it.
Ironically, he doesn't have to. If he sand a little within himself he might sound much better for it.
Danyl was not flat, I have listened again and again.
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Not here she didn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcY1rH8x2Qs
although I bet she wished she had. Forward to about 0.56 and hear for yourself (if you can't bear listening all the way through).”
“Not here she didn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcY1rH8x2Qs
although I bet she wished she had. Forward to about 0.56 and hear for yourself (if you can't bear listening all the way through).
”
OK I take it back she did sing live once but FFS that was really bad even Jedward sounds better at time than she did on that.
Cheryl was right.
I normally like Danyl, but his performance tonight was dire.
He oversung and screamed and it puts me off wanting to listen. He just tries too hard when at this stage it should be effortless.
Joe is knocking spots off him. Joe and Stacey best tonight.
I normally like Danyl, but his performance tonight was dire.
He oversung and screamed and it puts me off wanting to listen. He just tries too hard when at this stage it should be effortless.
Joe is knocking spots off him. Joe and Stacey best tonight.
Hang on: What has her singing flat got to do with her judgement and comment that Danyl sang flat?
Her singing flat means she can't sing: That doesn't mean Danyl didn't sing flat.
Or is this just a "quick let's make excuses for Danyl's flat singing by saying this she sings flat as well" ?
Two wrongs and all that.
Her singing flat means she can't sing: That doesn't mean Danyl didn't sing flat.
Or is this just a "quick let's make excuses for Danyl's flat singing by saying this she sings flat as well" ?
Two wrongs and all that.
Originally Posted by Odd Socks:
“Danyl was not flat, I have listened again and again.
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?”
“Danyl was not flat, I have listened again and again.
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?”
The only place where I heard a problem was in the last long note, when he moved from one note up to another note on the words 'please stay'. The second of these notes seemed 'off' although I think he did make a stab at correcting it. Having listened to it a few times though it's a lot less noticeable than when I heard it live on TV. And in the overall scheme of his performance it's pretty insignificant.
Originally Posted by Odd Socks:
“Danyl was not flat, I have listened again and again.
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?”
“Danyl was not flat, I have listened again and again.
He sang quietly.
On one hand, if he belts it out, he's shouting and not singing. On the other, if he sings quietly, he's flat?”
No, he was flat. I really do know the difference after 30 year of sound engineering between flat and quiet. If I didn't, no one would pay me money mix/record them.
Originally Posted by Simon Cow:
“Hang on: What has her singing flat got to do with her judgement and comment that Danyl sang flat?
Her singing flat means she can't sing: That doesn't mean Danyl didn't sing flat.
Or is this just a "quick let's make excuses for Danyl's flat singing by saying this she sings flat as well" ?
Two wrongs and all that.”
“Hang on: What has her singing flat got to do with her judgement and comment that Danyl sang flat?
Her singing flat means she can't sing: That doesn't mean Danyl didn't sing flat.
Or is this just a "quick let's make excuses for Danyl's flat singing by saying this she sings flat as well" ?
Two wrongs and all that.”
I think it's to do with some barbie-doll vacuous bint being tone-deaf and therefore unable to offer an opinion on musicality.
Originally Posted by Odd Socks:
“I think it's to do with some barbie-doll vacuous bint being tone-deaf and therefore unable to offer an opinion on musicality.”
“I think it's to do with some barbie-doll vacuous bint being tone-deaf and therefore unable to offer an opinion on musicality.”
Is that the best argument you can make?
Originally Posted by Deerd:
“A slight wobble at the start... the noting of which she made no attempt to redress in a constrictive manner by outlining the merits of the substantive which came after the inital waver...
That said... I suppose it could be argued that Cheryl may actually have difficulty in terms of divining/comprehending all manner of vocal/singing techniques - especially as her own 'interesting' singing ability[sic] seems largely devoid of the application of breathe, scale and diction etc.
I'm more than prepared - especially calibrating for the evidence of my own ears - to give Cheryl the benefit of the doubt and accept that she is not in the least qualified to make determinations re: technique and thereby take the notion with a pinch.”
“A slight wobble at the start... the noting of which she made no attempt to redress in a constrictive manner by outlining the merits of the substantive which came after the inital waver...
That said... I suppose it could be argued that Cheryl may actually have difficulty in terms of divining/comprehending all manner of vocal/singing techniques - especially as her own 'interesting' singing ability[sic] seems largely devoid of the application of breathe, scale and diction etc.
I'm more than prepared - especially calibrating for the evidence of my own ears - to give Cheryl the benefit of the doubt and accept that she is not in the least qualified to make determinations re: technique and thereby take the notion with a pinch.”
I would love to agree with you, but I'm afraid Danyl's tuning was poor tonight, practically all the way through. And much as I don't admire Mrs Cole, she should be allowed to judge on these things - if she was only allowed to judge on what she is good at, then she would only be allowed to pass judgement on people's looks!
Originally Posted by Simon Cow:
“No, he was flat. I really do know the difference after 30 year of sound engineering between flat and quiet. If I didn't, no one would pay me money mix/record them.”
“No, he was flat. I really do know the difference after 30 year of sound engineering between flat and quiet. If I didn't, no one would pay me money mix/record them.”
I hold a different opinion.
He was on key. Throughout.
Originally Posted by InsomniacParade:
“So after starting this thread, you do actually agree that Cheryl was right?”
“So after starting this thread, you do actually agree that Cheryl was right?”
I never said she was wrong. I just said that her pointing it out rather ironic seeing as singing in tune isnt really her strong point.
Plus I think she did it out of spite as she clearly dislikes Danyl. Olly and Lloyd were certainly NOT note perfect why the heck not comment on that!!
Originally Posted by Odd Socks:
“I hold a different opinion.
He was on key. Throughout.”
“I hold a different opinion.
He was on key. Throughout.”
You are wrong.
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