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New Dances, Why?
Doghouse Riley
25-11-2009
Despite all the hype about the new dances on Saturday, I really don't give a stuff.

I think it's down to the BBC trying to "engage" a younger audience, as they're being trounced by X-Factor.

The pros don't even know them.

How daft is that?
claire2281
25-11-2009
Because they have the same number of couples but they all did an extra dance before anyone was eliminated. Therefore they need more dances. Simple really.

I'm not sure the 1920's Charleston is really designed to engage a younger audience

The AS and AT have both been successfully introduced as we've gone along so I don't see why these ones can't be either.
drbolognaise
25-11-2009
The Charleston seems a popular dance on DWTS so I imagine that was why that was one of the dances introduced.
-Sid-
25-11-2009
I'm sort of looking forward to seeing The Charleston, but feel Rock n Roll is an odd choice. And it sounds a bit wishy washy. I'd have preferred something like The Bolero (which would have offered a better contrast as well).

Ideally, I'd prefer they stuck to the old format but with the couples having performed two dances on week one, I accept this isn't possible.
Pentax20
25-11-2009
I would think that any viewer in their 50s in more likely to have danced rock'n'roll in their youth than ballroom or latin, so why not include it in Strictly? It's a great fun dance as well as including a lot of moves from other dances.

From what I saw in the VT on ITT tonight though I'm not hopeful !!
Daisy_M
25-11-2009
I don't like what I've seen of both dances. The training didn't look very good tonight either. I hope they all improve greatly before Saturday.
kp2ni
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I'm sort of looking forward to seeing The Charleston, but feel Rock n Roll is an odd choice. And it sounds a bit wishy washy. I'd have preferred something like The Bolero (which would have offered a better contrast as well).”

I didn't like the Bolero on DWTS to similar to the Rumba and i think it caused Natalie exit as she did 2 similar dances back to back

I would have liked to see the jitterbug it my favourite out of all the 'new' dances they have tried on DWTS

Wonder if they are going to have the dance you did before to new choreography and music like last year??
-Sid-
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by kp2ni:
“I didn't like the Bolero on DWTS to similar to the Rumba and i think it caused Natalie exit as she did 2 similar dances back to back

I would have liked to see the jitterbug it my favourite out of all the 'new' dances they have tried on DWTS

Wonder if they are going to have the dance you did before to new choreography and music like last year??”

I hope so.

It's interesting seeing what the couples do differently and if they manage to improve on their first outing.

I agree re: The Jitterbug. Preferable to Rock n Roll.

And I was devastated to see Natalie go
Paace
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Despite all the hype about the new dances on Saturday, I really don't give a stuff.

I think it's down to the BBC trying to "engage" a younger audience, as they're being trounced by X-Factor.

The pros don't even know them.

How daft is that?”

Agree, its a total rubbish idea as both dances are rubbish and how well do the judges know these dances to be able to award fair marks. I bet Alesha has never seen the new dances.
Psychosis
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I'm sort of looking forward to seeing The Charleston, but feel Rock n Roll is an odd choice. And it sounds a bit wishy washy. I'd have preferred something like The Bolero (which would have offered a better contrast as well).

Ideally, I'd prefer they stuck to the old format but with the couples having performed two dances on week one, I accept this isn't possible.”

The Bolero is more similar to Strictly's rumba than rock & roll is to jive.
ellie1167
25-11-2009
Think it's a risk for the main 2 dances to be ones that have never been done before....they may or may not prove popular and the average viewer will vave nohing to base their opinions on not really knowing what a good chatleston or rock'n'roll look like (lets face it even after all these seies a lot of viewers wouldn't reallyknow if a paso is technically good or not so these new ones are going to turn into who/what was fun to watch even if it is a total disaster in terms of how the dance should be since there is no previous frame of reference). It would be different if they were doing 2 dances i.e. one new and one of the 'traditional' dances so that there was something familiar even if the new dances bomb in terms of popularity . (I know they are doing the VW but it is probably the least interesting ot the usual dances and, as I understand it, is being performed as a group albeit marked)
Doghouse Riley
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Agree, its a total rubbish idea as both dances are rubbish and how well do the judges know these dances to be able to award fair marks. I bet Alesha has never seen the new dances.”


The Charleston I accept is a recognised dance, but no more of any importance than the "Hully Gully" or the "Twist" and nowhere near as good to watch as the "Lindy Hop."

You rarely see more than a few moments of archive footage of the Charleston, as it must be pretty boring after that.

As for "The Rock and Roll," it sounded like those "experts" were making it up as they went along.

If they need more dances. let's have more recognised ones.
-Sid-
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“The Bolero is more similar to Strictly's rumba than rock & roll is to jive.”

Sorry Psychosis, I should have made myself clearer.

I meant Bolero would be a nice contrast to The Charleston.

One dance is slow and sensual, the other very upbeat.
Vodka_Drinka
25-11-2009
I didnt even know rock and roll was a dance? Why didn't they introduce the jitterbug or lindyhop instead? I dont know why the Mambo has never been done on SCD? The lambada is another dance the could have included. Both have been done on DWTS, I think the Mambo is a DWTS regular.

Looking forward to the Charleston though. That was good on DWTS.
Veri
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by kp2ni:
“...
I would have liked to see the jitterbug it my favourite out of all the 'new' dances they have tried on DWTS
...”

Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“...
I agree re: The Jitterbug. Preferable to Rock n Roll.
...”

Yes, the jitterbug would be the one I'd most like to see. The lindy hop might also be ok.

I can't stand the Charleston, and I don't have any interest in the mambo, bolero or lambada.
kp2ni
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Yes, the jitterbug would be the one I'd most like to see. The lindy hop might also be ok.

I can't stand the Charleston, and I don't have any interest in the mambo, bolero or lambada.”

I liked Derek and Joanna's Lambada and Mark and Melissa's Charleston was great though new dances can be hit or miss.
arddunol
25-11-2009
Originally Posted by Pentax20:
“I would think that any viewer in their 50s in more likely to have danced rock'n'roll in their youth than ballroom or latin, so why not include it in Strictly? It's a great fun dance as well as including a lot of moves from other dances.

From what I saw in the VT on ITT tonight though I'm not hopeful !!”

Anyone in their 50s now was , at the oldest born in 1950 and would have been 5 when R and R took off .

The 50 somethings were teenagers in the late 60s and early 70s .

I have taught jazz age History and there is quiet a bit of black and white footage around of Charleston .
Ad I understand it , swing came first , out of that developed Lindy hop in the 30s and then boogie woogie and R and R .

I can 't see any of these dances attracting younger viewers who aren't already interested in dance.
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