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Old 27-11-2009, 00:42
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Geez.

How about we all take a sit down yes?

We have no idea how the story will pan out. Loretta and Chrissie murdered a child of their own age at the time, twelve years old. I think all this backlash is ridiculous! Wheres the substance to say its based on James Bulgers case? There is none.

I feel awful and disgusted for what happened to James but he isnt the only child to be murdered, why should his mother single this out as a threat against him? Exactly. She shouldn't.

We have no substance yet. Stop trying to bitch about the soap.

Television shows such as Law and Order, Prime Suspect and Taggart have featured storylines such as this in the past. Why the huge upset for Hollyoaks?
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Old 27-11-2009, 01:25
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Well said.

I think it's one of the most gripping storylines yet by the little we know.

Everyone here though, loves a good old moan.
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Old 27-11-2009, 03:05
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I could not agree more, Th case of James Bulger is very sad and I understand why she is upset as its close to home but its not like this type of storyline has never been done before only last year I think C4 did a drama called Boy A which storyline was pretty much similar too this one being done by Hollyoaks, its drama where do you think writers get they're inspiration... real life stories.
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Old 27-11-2009, 07:54
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Well said
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Old 27-11-2009, 09:26
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First off, I am not a Hollyoaks viewer, nor will I side with either party on this issue. However, in response to the questions, it is probably more of an issue for Hollyoaks because it is set and filmed on Merseyside where the terrible events occurred. If the producers and script writers did not take the time to consider that, then I think they made a mistake. Look at most soaps, they generally do take the time to consult with people affected by storylines they intend to show...mental health charities, sufferers of conditions / victims of crime etc...

Not to do so on this occasion in the area affected the most by this crime is at the very least short-sighted. It could have been handled a lot better in my opinion.
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Old 27-11-2009, 09:55
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Glad to see im not the only one who feels this way.
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:00
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I agree, nobody knows the ins and outs of the storyline yet but people are quick to complain as usual
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:02
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well said i was just about to put up a thread regarding this as i think its getting to OTT on people moaning & bitching about it!.... I wonder when archie dies at christmas people wil complain because it happened to somebody they know!!???!?! i think not! so do the same for other soaps
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:04
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First off, I am not a Hollyoaks viewer, nor will I side with either party on this issue. However, in response to the questions, it is probably more of an issue for Hollyoaks because it is set and filmed on Merseyside where the terrible events occurred. If the producers and script writers did not take the time to consider that, then I think they made a mistake. Look at most soaps, they generally do take the time to consult with people affected by storylines they intend to show...mental health charities, sufferers of conditions / victims of crime etc...

Not to do so on this occasion in the area affected the most by this crime is at the very least short-sighted. It could have been handled a lot better in my opinion.
it's happened all over the world not just in merseyside.. it's just it's james bulgers mother who has a problem about it and gone to press regarding it.. RIP the poor mite and it's awful awful thing what has happened but at the end of the day its not just happened once, and soaps are based on things what happen in real life.
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:08
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well said i was just about to put up a thread regarding this as i think its getting to OTT on people moaning & bitching about it!.... I wonder when archie dies at christmas people wil complain because it happened to somebody they know!!???!?! i think not! so do the same for other soaps
Can I just say something. I'm not a Hollyoaks viewer and am not planning on being one either. I'm an EE gal. But if you're referring to the thread I think you're referring too, then all I can say is, people were objecting to how the OP was describing Denise Fergus, ie delusional, pathetic, attention seeking. She's a grieving mother who was most likely contacted by the Sun tabloid newspaper. They were the ones who compared this upcoming story to James Bulger, so can you blame the woman for being distressed?

Regarding the actual storyline, I think it is an issue that deserves tackling as situations like these are not always black and white. For Denise Fergus it is black and white, for the rest of us it's a shaded grey area.
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:14
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Geez.

How about we all take a sit down yes?

We have no idea how the story will pan out. Loretta and Chrissie murdered a child of their own age at the time, twelve years old. I think all this backlash is ridiculous! Wheres the substance to say its based on James Bulgers case? There is none.

I feel awful and disgusted for what happened to James but he isnt the only child to be murdered, why should his mother single this out as a threat against him? Exactly. She shouldn't.

We have no substance yet. Stop trying to bitch about the soap.

Television shows such as Law and Order, Prime Suspect and Taggart have featured storylines such as this in the past. Why the huge upset for Hollyoaks?
Can i take this one stage further and just state that people are yet again running with something reported in the Sun - now we all know that newspapers like the Sun don't report fact, don"t we? Not only that, many of the people commenting on this haven't even read the original article and are just reacting to what other people have stated as being fact. Child by child murder is a horrific crime but its hardly a new story, there are no new stories just different ways of telling them and to make a judgement on a tv program before you have even seen it, makes absolutely no sense to me at all. We have enough censorship in our society so lets not support more!
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Old 27-11-2009, 10:49
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I do agree that soaps are suppose to portray storylines that happen in real life, but as there are similarites between the storyline and what happened to James it would have been respectful to get in contact with Denise and ask her about the storyline. It may have been a 15 years ago but I'm sure it's still as fresh in her mind as ever!
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Old 27-11-2009, 11:50
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Can I just say something. I'm not a Hollyoaks viewer and am not planning on being one either. I'm an EE gal. But if you're referring to the thread I think you're referring too, then all I can say is, people were objecting to how the OP was describing Denise Fergus, ie delusional, pathetic, attention seeking. She's a grieving mother who was most likely contacted by the Sun tabloid newspaper. They were the ones who compared this upcoming story to James Bulger, so can you blame the woman for being distressed?

Regarding the actual storyline, I think it is an issue that deserves tackling as situations like these are not always black and white. For Denise Fergus it is black and white, for the rest of us it's a shaded grey area.
She should be annoyed with the sun though for comparing the storeyline to her sons death. As i have previously stated on here, you don't see people who have had people they love die via arson complain when theres a fire death in a soap, or rape ect... i do feel for the woman, i feel for anybody having to lose a child, i just think its all been blown out or proportion and she shouldn't be reacting the way she has. As you have said it is an issue that deserves tackling, it's happened to many people not just one person, which i think the sun in general have forgotten about that.
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Old 27-11-2009, 12:07
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She should be annoyed with the sun though for comparing the storeyline to her sons death. As i have previously stated on here, you don't see people who have had people they love die via arson complain when theres a fire death in a soap, or rape ect... i do feel for the woman, i feel for anybody having to lose a child, i just think its all been blown out or proportion and she shouldn't be reacting the way she has. As you have said it is an issue that deserves tackling, it's happened to many people not just one person, which i think the sun in general have forgotten about that.
Yes it should be the SUN in the firing line for making a comparison. There is no comparison. Even the fact that they have new identities is hardly a DIRECT comparison really as many people get new identities for things, lets face it someone else had one in HO already.

The Bill recently ran a sl where a young boy killed a child his age by accident, it was quite powerful but nothing in the papers about that.
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Old 27-11-2009, 14:08
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Yes it should be the SUN in the firing line for making a comparison. There is no comparison. Even the fact that they have new identities is hardly a DIRECT comparison really as many people get new identities for things, lets face it someone else had one in HO already.

The Bill recently ran a sl where a young boy killed a child his age by accident, it was quite powerful but nothing in the papers about that.
i remember that.... and also remember there wasnt anything in the paper i think its just people trying to drag a soap down for the sake of it... typical really
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Old 27-11-2009, 15:31
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The fact is soap tend to try and write stories that are similar to real life and this type of thing happens all over the place. It was irresponsible of the sun to throw accusations and get James' mum involved, it has no correlation to her situation anyway.

Loretta and the other girl and the girl they killed are all supposed to be the same age, so instantly not the same. Plus (withouth taking away from the hideousness that was imposed on poor James) he is unfotaunetly not the only child to have suffered this fate.

I would say it has more of a similarity to the poor girl that jumped out of a window to avoid her bullies. May she rest in peace!
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Old 27-11-2009, 16:06
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This story seems more like the Brookside one from a few years ago when the Murray kids killed Imelda.
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Old 27-11-2009, 16:10
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well said i was just about to put up a thread regarding this as i think its getting to OTT on people moaning & bitching about it!.... I wonder when archie dies at christmas people wil complain because it happened to somebody they know!!???!?! i think not! so do the same for other soaps
Archie Dies!?!?! Omg I can't believe you just said that!!!!

How when?
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Old 27-11-2009, 16:13
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Archie Dies!?!?! Omg I can't believe you just said that!!!!

How when?
Evil Lydia!
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Old 28-11-2009, 12:18
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If the rumours (not spoilers, only rumours!) are true that the 12 year old died as a result of a prank gone wrong or bullying gone too far by Loretta and her friend, then that is similar to that story last week where this 15 year old jumped out of a window and killed herself because these two girls who used to be friends with her were bullying her and encouraging her to jump. Both were convicted of manslaughter. Much more similar to the James Bulger case anyway, with the only simiarity being the new identities on release, which will probably happen to those two girls convicted last week anyway
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Old 29-11-2009, 11:47
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Archie Dies!?!?! Omg I can't believe you just said that!!!!

How when?
what ? didnt hear bout that one ?
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Old 29-11-2009, 13:27
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Lol they mean archie in eastenders.
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Old 29-11-2009, 14:33
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Lol they mean archie in eastenders.
Damnit =/
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Old 29-11-2009, 14:53
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Lol they mean archie in eastenders.
Ahhhh thank goodness! Can't help liking the poor boy
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Old 29-11-2009, 15:05
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I agree too, i can understand why his mother is kind of upset about the storyline and especially on in Merseyside where it happened.
But soaps have loads of storylines that could upset people.

Didn't Ray Quinn actually kill a girl in Brookside, i think that's a tad worse!
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