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Old 27-11-2009, 21:09
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Len gets 60 grand for that load of old tut?
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Old 27-11-2009, 21:35
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Len gets 60 grand for that load of old tut?
Plus he gets a wedge fom the Yanks as well
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Old 27-11-2009, 21:54
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I hope she quits, I have actually loved her a judge. But I can't see the BBC renewing her contract and would rather she left with what's left of her pride rather than being sacked.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:01
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did you see she's got a new series though, Who's your daddy on bbc3.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:14
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Seeing her on ITT tonight confirmed my opinion that she is wrong for SCD and SCD is wrong for her.

I have actually come to the point where I find her so irritating that I mute the sound when she speaks.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:24
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Ah, I see. Naughty girl Craig can bitch and Bruno whine - and Spiv Len can whinge about lifts - but women are not allowed to be critical - because women judges are supposed to be 'nice' all the time?

It wouldn't matter what woman you put in there. One critical word and they'd be shot down in flames. Even Karen.
I am not an Alesha fan but have to agree with your post.
She has really got a backlash for saying nasty comments to Craig and Chris etc however everybody seems to love Craig who in previous series (he has toned it down a bit now) has destroyed celebs with comments he has made. Bruno can be rude as well. I personally did not blame her with Craig it was the only way to get through to him as he just would not listen to the judges comments ever and thought he was good - I expect she just expoloded and had to tell him he was not as good as he thought he was - it was only what everyone thought anyway!!

However I do think she has not really been accepted and a new judge would be better.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:37
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Ah, I see. Naughty girl Craig can bitch and Bruno whine - and Spiv Len can whinge about lifts - but women are not allowed to be critical - because women judges are supposed to be 'nice' all the time?

It wouldn't matter what woman you put in there. One critical word and they'd be shot down in flames. Even Karen.
Nope sofakat - nothing to do with the sexes.

Many females speak more eloquently, more knowledgeably and with more authority on dance than their male counterparts; think Karen Hardy!

Alesha however lacks eloquence, knowledge and/or authority - thus her critiques are meaningless.

The beeb did no one any favours when they foisted Alesha onto the SCD afficionados.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:40
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Quit or sacked its going to happen.

she has been EpicFail for the series her biggest mistake? trying to talk like a judge doing this for 20 odd years..instead of someone who was just like them she got her entire outlook on judging wrong.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:46
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she is just holding her options open...but I think she will jump before she is pushed...
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:51
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I love Alesha, she's brilliant and all of you are vile and cruel to the poor girl - making her out to be a monster when the real monsters are YOU!
Ughhhhhhh i really hate all of you who stick your nose up at Alesha.


Anyway, I do hope Alesha quits as music is far more important than you bunch of wannabe's slagging her off 24/7

YES, YOU ARE SAD PEOPLE.
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Old 27-11-2009, 22:55
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I am not an Alesha fan but have to agree with your post.
She has really got a backlash for saying nasty comments to Craig and Chris etc however everybody seems to love Craig who in previous series (he has toned it down a bit now) has destroyed celebs with comments he has made. Bruno can be rude as well. I personally did not blame her with Craig it was the only way to get through to him as he just would not listen to the judges comments ever and thought he was good - I expect she just expoloded and had to tell him he was not as good as he thought he was - it was only what everyone thought anyway!!

However I do think she has not really been accepted and a new judge would be better.
Both Craig and Bruno are experienced choreographers.

As a dancer Craig appeared in a number of musicals before picking up an Oliver award for Spend, spend, spend.

Bruno has spent his life in dance; as a dancer and choregrapher.

Alesha's credentials are nothing more than a pop singer who won SCD after 10 weeks dance training.

I know whose judgement I trust.
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:02
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Alesha's credentials are nothing more than a pop singer who won SCD after 10 weeks dance training.

I know whose judgement I trust.

This is where you are wrong - do you really think Alesha just got to where she is because of her singing voice? NO. She got their through her dancing skills and went to dance classes when she was younger, learning techniques.
While in Mis-Teeq she had to judge what dancers would be their backing dancers & learn dances herself. Then she joins Strictly, learns everything about dancing hands-on and wins the show. then has lots of success with singing & dancing being her real talent on stage.
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:08
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I love Alesha, she's brilliant and all of you are vile and cruel to the poor girl - making her out to be a monster when the real monsters are YOU!
Ughhhhhhh i really hate all of you who stick your nose up at Alesha.


Anyway, I do hope Alesha quits as music is far more important than you bunch of wannabe's slagging her off 24/7

YES, YOU ARE SAD PEOPLE.
Alesha is not a monster - nor is she brilliant.

I have difficulty understanding why those who fail to adore her are sad, just as I am confused with your hatred of those who disagree with your veneration.

Please explain your definition of wannabe.
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:12
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she is just holding her options open...but I think she will jump before she is pushed...
Hello my friend - if she doesn't jump soon, she might find her options limited.
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:25
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Both Craig and Bruno are experienced choreographers.

As a dancer Craig appeared in a number of musicals before picking up an Oliver award for Spend, spend, spend.

Bruno has spent his life in dance; as a dancer and choregrapher.

Alesha's credentials are nothing more than a pop singer who won SCD after 10 weeks dance training.

I know whose judgement I trust.
I don't know how you can say that after the way Len, Craig and Bruno are forever contradicting each other...
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:30
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Poor Alesha - she must be kicking herself - if only she'd had the sense to accidentally clip a paparazzo while in her car and get herself arrested, she could have been the toast of this forum!
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Old 27-11-2009, 23:34
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I hope Alesha comes back next year -- just to p*ss off all her haters.
I'd like her to make a return next year but not old Bruce. His presentation is bad and he's pushing the limits of my tolerance

If Alesha's been disliked only for her work as a judge then fair enough, the only thing I find annoying about her is her duck like laugh , do ducks laugh ?

If she's hated for any nasty reasons then tough t.
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:11
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I don't know how you can say that after the way Len, Craig and Bruno are forever contradicting each other...
It's ever so easy - I touch type.
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:32
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It's ever so easy - I touch type.
I guess it was too much to expect a credible answer from you...

You don't like Alesha, full stop. If they'd given the job to someone equally inexperienced that you really liked, I doubt you'd kick up such a stink about it.
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:33
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Both Craig and Bruno are experienced choreographers.

As a dancer Craig appeared in a number of musicals before picking up an Oliver award for Spend, spend, spend.

Bruno has spent his life in dance; as a dancer and choregrapher.

Alesha's credentials are nothing more than a pop singer who won SCD after 10 weeks dance training.

I know whose judgement I trust.
Well said - I agree 100%
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:40
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Well said - I agree 100%
Well, you would, wouldn't you?

You've been repeating the same thing ad nauseum, for the past three or four months. Honestly, I wish you people would give it a rest.
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:53
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I guess it was too much to expect a credible answer from you...

You don't like Alesha, full stop. If they'd given the job to someone equally inexperienced that you really liked, I doubt you'd kick up such a stink about it.
Upon what do you base this assumption?

If you check out the 'Alesha grammar' thread you will see that I defended her against the grammar police. However I see no reason to support her place on the judge's panel when she clearly lacks authority and you can rest assured that my opinion rests solely on her inexperience and has nothing to do with like or dislike.

Alesha does not have the experience, the knowledge or the authority to critique dance.

That is unarguable.
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Old 28-11-2009, 00:54
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Well, you would, wouldn't you?

You've been repeating the same thing ad nauseum, for the past three or four months. Honestly, I wish you people would give it a rest.
Perhaps those of us with the opposite opinion wish you would do the same.
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Old 28-11-2009, 01:14
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Upon what do you base this assumption?

If you check out the 'Alesha grammar' thread you will see that I defended her against the grammar police. However I see no reason to support her place on the judge's panel when she clearly lacks authority and you can rest assured that my opinion rests solely on her inexperience and has nothing to do with like or dislike.

Alesha does not have the experience, the knowledge or the authority to critique dance.

That is unarguable.
With the exception of last Saturday , on the whole, I think her critique and scoring has been fine. She's been working with choreographers for a long time, so no doubt she has picked up a lot of dance techniques from them -- as well as Matthew Cutler, of course.
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Old 28-11-2009, 01:20
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I feel a bit sorry for Alesha. She's clearly stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't think she's done the best job of making where she is more comfortable but on the other hand it was never going to be easy to do that anyway. If I were her I'd get out now. She's gorgeous and she has talent - I'm sure there's a niche for her that's a little less rough on her behind!
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