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Alesha might quit report
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Ignazio
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“I'll debate that.

She can dance, as demonstrated during her time on the show and during her successful music career. Maybe not the style of dancing you'd like but she's a dancer.

She is a choreographer, having done so with most of her music videos. She may not choreograph the dances you like but she can choreograph a dance routine.

She is a judge in the eyes of the BBC. Maybe not as qualified as you'd like but she's a judge regardless.

2.5 out of 3 ain't bad.

I'm a singer. I may not be a professional and I may not do it well, but I'm still a singer when I open my mouth and sing along to a song.”

Ok - limited dancer - confined to winning SCD but not comparable to the pros; so if the pros are worth 1 out of 1, I'll be generous and award Alesha a half mark.

She may have choreographed a music video - but that does not qualify her to judge the choreography of either ballroom or latin dancing: still a mark of 0.

She may sit on the judge's panel - that does not make her a credible judge: still a mark of 0.

So now an overall score of 0.5 - room for improvement.
Balthus
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“At the risk of repeating myself - I refer you to the Alesha grammar bashing thread where I defended your Goddess.

Guess that wouldn't fit your Alesha hating agenda.”

LOL, she's a nice girl and I like her, but I wouldn't exactly call myself a fan -- and she most certainly is not my "Goddess". I'm just fed up of the continual vitriolic backlash against her.

Oh, and I'll make sure to take a look at that thread.
aleshadixonNET
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Irish Ninja:
“She can dance to a certain level, that is undisputed. But not to a professional standard at Ballroom and Latin (which this show mostly consists of.

She may have choreographed dance routines, again not in the correct genre for this programme.

Yes in the BBC's eyes she is a judge but it is the wisdom of that decision that has long been under scrutiny.

I like to cook but I aint no Delia Smith!”

I agree. The point being that we all have differing opinions on her placing on the show - none of which having more bearing than others. Alesha HAS the skills to be on the show, but it can be debated whether it's to a high enough level.

I have said that (as her biggest supporter) I didn't agree with her place on the panel BUT this is an ENTERTAINMENT show. Do you honestly think Len, Bruno and Craig give the same scores to pro dancers in an actual pro competition? They are ALL graded on entertainment value. A 10 for Ricky is not a 10 for a pro doing the same dance.

People are going on like they've stuck Alesha on the panel of the World Dance Championship. It's JUST entertainment and 99% of the people bitching on this forum about her cannot do a better job than she does and are likely to not have experience what she has, regardless of it being over a period of 4 months or whatever. If Alesha's comments were SO out of line then you'd have the other 3 judges screaming down her ear for being wrong. But they don't, so what she says MUST have some truth in it.

I honestly believe people ENJOY sitting behind their computers moaning about her because they have nothing else to fill the other 6 days of the week when she's not on the show. We're 10 weeks in now - how many times are people going to moan about her grammar, her blinking, her outfits, her accent, her comments etc?! She won't change now and shouldn't have to either! People should just enjoy what's left of the show ...
Balthus
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Ok - limited dancer - confined to winning SCD but not comparable to the pros; so if the pros are worth 1 out of 1, I'll be generous and award Alesha a half mark.

She may have choreographed a music video - but that does not qualify her to judge the choreography of either ballroom or latin dancing: still a mark of 0.

She may sit on the judge's panel - that does not make her a credible judge: still a mark of 0.

So now an overall score of 0.5 - room for improvement.”

In that case, why not just ignore her and just listen to the three credible (and forever squabbling) "experts".
Irish Ninja
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“I agree. The point being that we all have differing opinions on her placing on the show - none of which having more bearing than others. Alesha HAS the skills to be on the show, but it can be debated whether it's to a high enough level.

I have said that (as her biggest supporter) I didn't agree with her place on the panel BUT this is an ENTERTAINMENT show. Do you honestly think Len, Bruno and Craig give the same scores to pro dancers in an actual pro competition? They are ALL graded on entertainment value. A 10 for Ricky is not a 10 for a pro doing the same dance.

People are going on like they've stuck Alesha on the panel of the World Dance Championship. It's JUST entertainment and 99% of the people bitching on this forum about her cannot do a better job than she does and are likely to not have experience what she has, regardless of it being over a period of 4 months or whatever. If Alesha's comments were SO out of line then you'd have the other 3 judges screaming down her ear for being wrong. But they don't, so what she says MUST have some truth in it.

I honestly believe people ENJOY sitting behind their computers moaning about her because they have nothing else to fill the other 6 days of the week when she's not on the show. We're 10 weeks in now - how many times are people going to moan about her grammar, her blinking, her outfits, her accent, her comments etc?! She won't change now and shouldn't have to either! People should just enjoy what's left of the show ...”

Of course you're right it is an entertainment show, and one which I do enjoy and plan to for the duration of the series. However I would still have liked to have somone with a little more relevant dance experience as a judge. I believe it was a mis-step for Alesha to put herself in that position.

Some people may enjoy moaning about Alesha, I'm not one of those at all, as I've stated previously there is alot to admire about her. Some comments are personal and have very little to do with her abilities as a judge and like you I can't condone them.
Iphigenia
28-11-2009
I don't hate Alesha but I do think she has been promoted beyond her competence. That happens in very many walks of life; unfortunately for Alesha, she is in a very visible position.

It is also the case that, by virtue of her role, she is paid to criticize other people - that in itself sets her up for 'who the fk does she think she is'-type criticism in her own right: the fact that some of her comments have lacked balance, fairness, depth and grammar (upon occasion) means that she is bound to receive similar criticism.

The further fact that the BBC have done what TV channels always do, and begun to ubiquitize her (CIN, Who's the Daddy) also grates on many people.

She may, in time, learn to have the skills and manner to deliver soundbytes that don't bite her back - unfortunately, people get hacked off at watching what is effectively her on the job training.

And someone - friends? family? management? - should have seriously advised her against taking on the SCD role - however tempting - until she was ready for it.
JethroUK
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by jkennedy737:
“This is where you are wrong - do you really think Alesha just got to where she is because of her singing voice? NO. She got their through her dancing skills ....”

Rubbish - she has zero 'dancing credibility'

She got there because Brucie fancies the pants off her - end of

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oulandy
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Its that cackling forced laugh which I can't stand, its not a natural laugh but a forced cackle which she deliberately uses. I had to switch over ITT when she was on yesterday.”

You suggest that she is deliberately cultivating a vulgar cackle. I would think that highly unlikely. Why on earth would she want to do that?
lach doch mal
28-11-2009
No disrespect to Alesha, but I hope they will have a proper judge next year (e.g. Karen). She still hasn't made up her mind if she is tough boots Alesha or Alesha the voice of the public. The other problem with Alesha is that she is as biased as Arlene (e.g. Ricky), I found her also extremely irritating yesterday, when she was imitating Chris' mouth movement in ITT (we have Craig to do these pantomine bad judge gestures). Overall she seems a bad imitation of the different judges (e.g. Len's seeven).

My post is a bit confusing, I know what I'm saying.
gorlagon
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Iphigenia:
“I don't hate Alesha but I do think she has been promoted beyond her competence. That happens in very many walks of life; unfortunately for Alesha, she is in a very visible position.

It is also the case that, by virtue of her role, she is paid to criticize other people - that in itself sets her up for 'who the fk does she think she is'-type criticism in her own right: the fact that some of her comments have lacked balance, fairness, depth and grammar (upon occasion) means that she is bound to receive similar criticism.

The further fact that the BBC have done what TV channels always do, and begun to ubiquitize her (CIN, Who's the Daddy) also grates on many people.

She may, in time, learn to have the skills and manner to deliver soundbytes that don't bite her back - unfortunately, people get hacked off at watching what is effectively her on the job training.

And someone - friends? family? management? - should have seriously advised her against taking on the SCD role - however tempting - until she was ready for it.”

Seconded.
JethroUK
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“..She still hasn't made up her mind if she is tough boots Alesha or Alesha the voice of the public. ....”

I've always felt she should been the voice of the people and it would be a refreshing contrast to the other judges starchy opinions

And since Aleisha cant do it, maybe we shoulds just get Mrs Blewit from Acacia Avenue to sit on the panel

It would be great to have someone on the panel that reflects what we (non-professionals) have to say at home

"That was very exciting dance, very nice frock and i loved all the illegal lifts - i'll give it a 10"

" I was bored sh1tless I'll give that 2"

etc

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Ignazio
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Seeing her on ITT tonight confirmed my opinion that she is wrong for SCD and SCD is wrong for her.

I have actually come to the point where I find her so irritating that I mute the sound when she speaks.”

Originally Posted by Balthus:
“In that case, why not just ignore her and just listen to the three credible (and forever squabbling) "experts".”

Post 80.
ewoodie
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“Seconded.”

It's hard to respect Alesha and not just as a judge. She has clearly got far too big for her boots and become the big I am. For expecting her and her entourage to be admitted to an exclusive London nightclub and her reaction after refusal, shows how arrogant she is.
Bhoy1888
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“It's hard to respect Alesha and not just as a judge. She has clearly got far too big for her boots and become the big I am. For expecting her and her entourage to be admitted to an exclusive London nightclub and her reaction after refusal, shows how arrogant she is.”

But she is the biggest star ever of SCD
Danslink
28-11-2009
looks like myleene klass will be stepping in next year then...
barnabeebear
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Seeing her on ITT tonight confirmed my opinion that she is wrong for SCD and SCD is wrong for her.

I have actually come to the point where I find her so irritating that I mute the sound when she speaks.”

Never mind when Alesha Dixon speaks, it's when she laughs that it's agony. The other night when she was on ITT, even when the camera wasn't on her, she could be heard doing 'Donald Duck' in the background. Honestly, will someone get this woman the equivalent of elocution lessons to deal with the way she laughs. It is so unladylike.
ewoodie
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by Bhoy1888:
“But she is the biggest star ever of SCD”


In what respect, a winning contestant? Whatever it is you mean, I don't see how you can quantify your statement.

What does being the 'biggest star of SCD' have to do with expecting to get into an exclusive nightclub?
Mr Giggles
28-11-2009
Originally Posted by dancingfan:
“According to the Mirror today...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21853333/

Alesha might quit to focus upon her music career in America”

I don't care what she is planning, as long as she leaves SCD that's enough for me.

Her constant babble and over-marking is annoying.:sleep:
Spidey
28-11-2009
Reply to OP...

"we live in hope"
JethroUK
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Danslink:
“looks like myleene klass will be stepping in next year then...”

no way - she's also got no credibility as dance judge - what are SCD producers thinking about?

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aleshadixonNET
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“It's hard to respect Alesha and not just as a judge. She has clearly got far too big for her boots and become the big I am. For expecting her and her entourage to be admitted to an exclusive London nightclub and her reaction after refusal, shows how arrogant she is.”

And your belief in what the press write being true only highlights your ignorance. There are videos online of her saying to the door people 'No worries guys, it's cool. Have a nice night'. Her dancer booked a table for 6 and they all tried to see if they could get in. They couldn't. They went elsewhere. End of. Unless you want to go into depth about the abuse she has been recieving from a press member for a while, causing her little outburst ...

Of course the press only wrote and published enough to make Alesha look like the devil ...
dancingfan
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“And your belief in what the press write being true only highlights your ignorance. There are videos online of her saying to the door people 'No worries guys, it's cool. Have a nice night'. Her dancer booked a table for 6 and they all tried to see if they could get in. They couldn't. They went elsewhere. End of. Unless you want to go into depth about the abuse she has been recieving from a press member for a while, causing her little outburst ...

Of course the press only wrote and published enough to make Alesha look like the devil ...”

I would disagree - I think certainly the red tops loved Alesha - the nightclub incident will have lost her points because she ranted at the paps (and I hate the paps and what they do) and the red tops won't like that ...I think the recent photos might have done her harm and I don't think this is not rocket science but photos of anyone giving the press the two fingers is going to get printed - school boy error and she was punished - it is horrible but Alesha (as have others have used the press) cannot complain when they turn on them


I genuinely do think the SCD has harmed Alesha big style - if I were her agent /friend/adviser I would be advising her to concentrate on her music career and to move away from it asap
PANNAL1
29-11-2009
She comes across as a very personable woman but i don't think she has bought anything new to the show and i wouldn't miss her if she was to quit. Am looking forward to Darcey Bussells critiques from next week.
ewoodie
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“And your belief in what the press write being true only highlights your ignorance. There are videos online of her saying to the door people 'No worries guys, it's cool. Have a nice night'. Her dancer booked a table for 6 and they all tried to see if they could get in. They couldn't. They went elsewhere. End of. Unless you want to go into depth about the abuse she has been recieving from a press member for a while, causing her little outburst ...

Of course the press only wrote and published enough to make Alesha look like the devil ...”

Genuine question: How do you know all this? Are you a spokes-person for Alesha?
Vincy82
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“And your belief in what the press write being true only highlights your ignorance. There are videos online of her saying to the door people 'No worries guys, it's cool. Have a nice night'. Her dancer booked a table for 6 and they all tried to see if they could get in. They couldn't. They went elsewhere. End of. Unless you want to go into depth about the abuse she has been recieving from a press member for a while, causing her little outburst ...

Of course the press only wrote and published enough to make Alesha look like the devil ...”


Thanks adnet. However, you wasting your energy. Please dont let the truth get in the way of the prejudice again AD.
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