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Old 29-11-2009, 12:10
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The guest singers are accompanied EVERY week by dancers - so to use distraction as an excuse for poor singing is ridiculous.

James started off out of tune and really didn't recover. Nelly certainly saved the performance that's for sure.
But they should be accompanying the singers (and sometimes they do this quite well) but they weren't, they were slap bang in front of them and writhing about inappropriately.

I think it's the one spot in the show where the dancing should be secondary and last night it was not, otherwise it's just another pro-dance and the singers may as well not be there.
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:12
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But they should be accompanying the singers (and sometimes they do this quite well) but they weren't, they were slap bang in front of them and writhing about inappropriately.

I think it's the one spot in the show where the dancing should be secondary and last night it was not, otherwise it's just another pro-dance and the singers may as well not be there.
Although to be honest ... James' singing was particularly bad at the beginning of the song - with no dancers present.
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:13
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But they should be accompanying the singers (and sometimes they do this quite well) but they weren't, they were slap bang in front of them and writhing about inappropriately.
Excellent notion

I thought the singers were the stars not on this occasion the dancers
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:14
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Just want to agree with daziechain, the dance was the chacha and the staccato of the dance doesn't complement the lyrics of Broken Strings. I understand that it fits the beats and the rhythm but not the nature of the song. Perhaps it would have been better for there to be no dance to it this week.
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:21
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James who? I missed the name when Bruce introduced them.

EDIT: Aaaagh...it's in the thread title!

I still don't know who he is, though.
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:25
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Although to be honest ... James' singing was particularly bad at the beginning of the song - with no dancers present.
He was nervous no question but I think the performance got a lot better .. but it was hard to tell because of Darren and Lilia's bizarre routine
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:28
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James who? I missed the name when Bruce introduced them.

EDIT: Aaaagh...it's in the thread title!

I still don't know who he is, though.
James Morrison .. you know ..

'well, I know that it's a wonderful world but I can't see it right now .. well I thought that I was doing well but I just want to cry now'
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:34
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James Morrison .. you know ..

'well, I know that it's a wonderful world but I can't see it right now .. well I thought that I was doing well but I just want to cry now'
Nope. Never heard of him or his songs. Shows how much I know of contemporary singers, eh!
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Old 29-11-2009, 12:58
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Did you know JM is going to reprise the song on Top Gear?

With just a small lyric change to "You can't drive on broken springs"

Ahem, I'll get my coat.
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Old 29-11-2009, 13:05
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Darren and Lilia completely distracted .. they should have been an accompanyment but they weren't. I've heard other singers say it is distracting for them and it's totally un-necessary.
James didn't start well but I thought it got a lot better when Nelly joined him and would have been better still if they hadn't looked a bit bemused at what was going on in front of them and the fact that the crowd were reacting to the dancers.

Both of these singers are brilliant live .. but to put them on there with Darren and Lilia cavorting about and then having to sing an extremely abridged version of their song (I was constantly caught out trying to sing along) .. I'm not surprised they struggled.
Darren and Lilia saved the performance from being a complete let down, I'm just sorry they were dancing to such a dire rendition. The crowd were obviously pleased to have something else to focus on
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Old 29-11-2009, 13:09
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Any time I've seen James perform (although I may be wrong) he's usually behind a mike stand, holding a guitar. Tonight he was kind of out there by himself until Nelly came on, and didn't look totally comfortable to me, which could have thrown him off a bit.

Also, what exactly were Darren and Lilia dancing? From where I was sitting it looked like what can only be called a 'Rhumba-cha-cha'.
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Old 29-11-2009, 13:31
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Just listened to the start of the singing on I-Player and it was painful. Then Nelly came on and she sounded whiny and nasal. I didn't listen till the end of the song.
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:13
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Nope. Never heard of him or his songs. Shows how much I know of contemporary singers, eh!
so I'm guessing that the pro dance to rock royalty Muse's song passed you by completely
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:29
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Nope. Never heard of him or his songs. Shows how much I know of contemporary singers, eh!
I thought Bruce said Van Morrison and I got all excited.

Boy was I disappointed
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:38
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so I'm guessing that the pro dance to rock royalty Muse's song passed you by completely
Yes, absolutely. I was wondering who or what was Muse, when I saw it mentioned on here.
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:40
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I also saw him at TT and heard a bit of his set at V Festival in August and he sounded brilliant both times. Not really a fan though and I haven't watched his performance from last night yet but as far as I'm aware, he's usually very good live.
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:40
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Starpuss, I agree: Van Morrison would be fab!
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Old 29-11-2009, 16:40
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The start of the number was so embarrassingly flat I muted the rest of it.
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Old 29-11-2009, 17:06
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It was a performance that wouldn't have been out of place on the X factor. That bad
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:02
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Yes: James Morrison DID sing out of tune - dreadfully last night. For all those people that complain about the singers and band: he outdid any of their performances with 'pitchy' singing. I have heard him live before and he had intonation problems then.
I also know from people working in recording studios that his singing is 'fiddled' with when it is recorded, to make him sound he's singing in tune.....
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:04
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Was it my ears or did James start off very flat and off key tonight. He seemed to be struggling with the song, and even when Nellie joined him it was not brill. Is it a case of 'The curse of SCD Live on Saturday' that's the case. Not many pros do well when they star.
I heard the same as you. He doesn't have a "traditional" voice by any stretch of the imagination, but last night he was most definitely off key.
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:15
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I could hardly hear him at first. It wasn't a good performance of what is normally a great song.
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:16
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As someone who never usually notices these things but did this time, I'm pleased others saw the same. I love that song but that was dreadful to start with, it did get better but I was disappointed with the dancing by my favourite professionals I really didn't understand the smiles when the song is about a relationship breaking up.
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:25
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As someone who never usually notices these things but did this time, I'm pleased others saw the same. I love that song but that was dreadful to start with, it did get better but I was disappointed with the dancing by my favourite professionals I really didn't understand the smiles when the song is about a relationship breaking up.
I have to say by the time Darren and Lilia came out I had pretty much stopped listening to the "singing" for my own protection! It was a bit weird for it to be so smiley, but it was beautifully danced.
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Old 29-11-2009, 19:36
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Starpuss, I agree: Van Morrison would be fab!
George Ivan Morrison wouldnt turn up for this gig
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