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What leader board will the judges ensure next week
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indigomoon
29-11-2009
To prevent an Ali and Ricky dance off.
I suspect they have to place Anton and Laila last on the leader board whatever they do on the night.

Chris has the samba what other dances do the couples have?
Ali strictly
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by indigomoon:
“To prevent an Ali and Ricky dance off.
I suspect they have to place Anton and Laila last on the leader board whatever they do on the night.

Chris has the samba what other dances do the couples have?”

not another conspiracy thread..........
Vic
29-11-2009
If it's 2 dances next week then I think Laila and Anton have the AS and Salsa left...I think.

Chris and Ola: Samba and Waltz
Ali and Brian: Samba and Tango
Ricky and Natalie: Paso and Foxtrot

I think these are right!
TylerTango
29-11-2009
Laila and Anton: Salsa and American Smooth
Chris and Ola: Samba and Waltz
Ali and Brian: Samba and Tango
Ricky and Natalie: Cha Cha Cha and Foxtrot
Vic
29-11-2009
Ah yes what was I looking at! They've done the Paso. It's the Char-Char-Chaaar!
TylerTango
29-11-2009
Ricky's footwork isn't always great so Foxtrot might be a struggle for him. I think he'll find the Cha Cha Cha easier.

I think Ali, Chris and Laila will do fine with their Ballroom dances but the Samba's and Salsa will be eh... not so good.
Vic
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“Ricky's footwork isn't always great so Foxtrot might be a struggle for him. I think he'll find the Cha Cha Cha easier.

I think Ali, Chris and Laila will do fine with their Ballroom dances but the Samba's and Salsa will be eh... not so good.”

No TT have faith, we will see the new improved Laila next week, she will wow with her sexy Latin ways!! (maybe even Anton will manage)
I'm being optimistic after last night because I felt like I watched a different dancer!

Dunno about Ali I don't 'study' her very closely
TylerTango
29-11-2009
I think as long as Laila likes the Salsa she will pull it off .
Just4Tonight
29-11-2009
Next week Ricky will be top - lots of 'your back to your best etc etc', they'll cool off Ali a little bit and get the knives out for Laila.

To be fair she's dancing a Salsa with Anton which should be shocking enough to get them in the bottom two with not much help from the judges.
mossy2103
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ali strictly:
“not another conspiracy thread..........”

Oh yes.

Conspiracies on this forum always seem to depend upon some poster's "favourite" being hard done by, or some other poster's "hated" coupled doing better than expected.

Quite sad really.
keggyhander
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Ali strictly:
“not another conspiracy thread..........”

It's only a conspiracy theory if it's not so bloody obviously true.
Vic
29-11-2009
Delete wrong thread!!
Robert Romarin
29-11-2009
A reasonably ordered one as usual I suspect...notwithstanding the odd questionable individual mark here and there.

The judges didn't hesitate to place Ricky in the danger zone this week...albeit I would have placed him 4th.
mossy2103
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by keggyhander:
“It's only a conspiracy theory if it's not so bloody obviously true.”

And the documented proof is where exactly? In truth, the proof exists in the minds of those who choose to believe it.
keggyhander
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Robert Romarin:
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The judges didn't hesitate to place Ricky in the danger zone this week...albeit I would have placed him 4th.”

With Ali safe at the top of the LB there was no dangerzone for RW. In fact, had I been Natalie Cassidy I would have refused to dance off.
Robert Romarin
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by keggyhander:
“With Ali safe at the top of the LB there was no dangerzone for RW. In fact, had I been Natalie Cassidy I would have refused to dance off.”

That might work if Ali had been 'safe'...but as I suspect you well know it was perfectly possible for her to have been in the DO...potentially with Ricky.

I don't mind conspiracy theories and they may have some truth in them...but invariably they're half-baked.
Saturn
29-11-2009
Anton and Laila last on the leaderboard with no ties would ensure that we don't have an Ali and Ricky dance-off.

If they do put Chris last then it's difficult to know how they'd need to place the rest to avoid an Ali and Ricky dance-off.
Saturn
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Robert Romarin:
“That might work if Ali had been 'safe'...but as I suspect you well know it was perfectly possible for her to have been in the DO...potentially with Ricky.

I don't mind conspiracy theories and they may have some truth in them...but invariably they're half-baked.”

You do need a lot of reversal for the person at the top to be in the dance-off.

To get both Ricky and Ali then Ali would need to be last. Natalie top. Laila 2nd. Also Chris would need to be ahead of Ricky...

1 Natalie
2 Laila
3 Chris
4 Ricky
5 Ali


So only 1 possible combination Hardly half-baked.
Robert Romarin
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“You do need a lot of reversal for the person at the top to be in the dance-off.

To get both Ricky and Ali then Ali would need to be last. Natalie top. Laila 2nd. Also Chris would need to be ahead of Ricky...

1 Natalie
2 Laila
3 Chris
4 Ricky
5 Ali


So only 1 possible combination Hardly half-baked.”

Pretending there's no danger zone when a) there is one and b) there's no way of accurately assessing how big it is amounts to half-baked theorising...however you spin it.
Jan2555*GG*
29-11-2009
Well I think the judges ARE manipulative even if it isnt completely deliberate, they get blinkered by what they would like to see as an outcome.

With only 4 couples in if Chris is bottom of the board he could still get the top public vote and be in the dance off....it would all depend on the order the public votes for the others.....the judges (particularly Len) dont understand this. In series 5 he said that the public should have voted more to keep Gethin in....what he failed to understand was that Gethin could have got 3 times as many votes as the others and still been in the dance off thats the way the scoring works when there are less couples....it doesnt only depend on your own vote it also depends on the others vote to a certain extent. On Saturday the person with the lowest public support could go through and the one with the most be sent home.
uptowngirl
29-11-2009
Unlike some of you I have faith in the judges and don't believe they will "fix" the leaderboard. I'm sure they will mark accordingly on what they see on the night as always. [even if i don't agree]
Saturn
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Robert Romarin:
“Pretending there's no danger zone when a) there is one and b) there's no way of accurately assessing how big it is amounts to half-baked theorising...however you spin it.”

Well simple maths tells us that if there are 5 couples and 5 placings the total possible combinations is 5x4x3x2x1 = 120.

So the dangerzone you refer to is 1/120
Robert Romarin
29-11-2009
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“Well simple maths tells us that if there are 5 couples and 5 placings the total possible combinations is 5x4x3x2x1 = 120.

So the dangerzone you refer to is 1/120 ”

I don't accept that we're dealing with equally likely outcomes...so simple maths is too simplistic.
beanbean
29-11-2009
I think this could be the order vote wise 1st Chris, 2nd Laila, 3rd/4th Ricky Ali,

So all they need to do is switch that round on the leaderboard.
Ie put chris bottom and Ali or ricky top.
Kez100
29-11-2009
Ricky, Ali, Laila and Chris and no ties.

If they know they stand no chance withlosing Chris, they may go for Ricky, Ali, Chris and Laila with no ties but that is going to be difficult to substantiate with Chris on Samba if Laila has ballroom (I've no idea what Laila has left).

If they know the exact order of voting then hey are in the best position as they can completely turn it on a head with their scores.

Next week is a dangerous week for Chris and I think we have to assume he will be bottom with the judges. The only way to get him through next week is on public vote as a Samba in the dance off stands no chance against anything! I will vote for them so long as Ola doesn't play the 'look at me' catsuit vote.
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