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Can the top placed person in public vote be in the dance off? |
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Can the top placed person in public vote be in the dance off?
I thought that due to the issues in the semi final last year this could no longer happen?
If Chris tops the public vote each week I believe he is guaranteed to be safe even if he comes bottom of the judges leaderboard. I thought of the different points scenarios and as far as I can see the two most likely is this chris 1 and 4= 5 laila 2 and 3= 5 ali 3 and 2=5 ricky 4 and 1 =5 It then goes down to the public vote which means Ali and Ricky in the dance off. Can anyone give me the points scenario where the top places dancer in public vote is in the dance off because I can't think of it |
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You are correct.Anyone winning the public vote will be safe.This scenario is true for all weeks.
Of course anyone wining the judges votes is not always safe So the public vote is the ultimate judgement So if Chris wins the public vote every week then he will be the winner I also will be richer |
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I don't think so; the issue last year was that the judge's scoreboard in the semi final meant that Tom could not avoid the dance-off even if he topped the public vote (which he did, as revealed the following week in the final) - there was absolutely no way he could have avoided the dance-off and so anyone voting for him would be wasting their money. The only thing the public vote decided was whether Lisa or Rachel would be joining him. If Lisa and Rachel hadn't tied on judges points there wouldn't have been an issue.
This year, based on the new scoreboard system, there should be no way that could happen. |
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Usually the public come through in the final and the joke act doesn't win.
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The semi is where he can be eliminated even coming top of the public vote:
For eg if the judges order is Ali(3), Ricky(2) and Chris (1) but the public put them C(3) Ali(2) and R(1) both R and C are in the dance off and I think we know who will go. Is my maths wrong? (it often is)
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You are correct.Anyone winning the public vote will be safe.This scenario is true for all weeks.
Of course anyone wining the judges votes is not always safe So the public vote is the ultimate judgement So if Chris wins the public vote every week then he will be the winner I also will be richer |
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You are correct.Anyone winning the public vote will be safe.This scenario is true for all weeks.
Of course anyone wining the judges votes is not always safe So the public vote is the ultimate judgement So if Chris wins the public vote every week then he will be the winner I also will be richer
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The semi is where he can be eliminated even coming top of the public vote:
For eg if the judges order is Ali(3), Ricky(2) and Chris (1) but the public put them C(3) Ali(2) and R(1) both R and C are in the dance off and I think we know who will go. |
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The semi is where he can be eliminated even coming top of the public vote:
For eg if the judges order is Ali(3), Ricky(2) and Chris (1) but the public put them C(3) Ali(2) and R(1) both R and C are in the dance off and I think we know who will go. Is my maths wrong? (it often is) ![]() |
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The semi is where he can be eliminated even coming top of the public vote:
For eg if the judges order is Ali(3), Ricky(2) and Chris (1) but the public put them C(3) Ali(2) and R(1) both R and C are in the dance off and I think we know who will go. Ali - 3 Ricky - 3 Chris - 2 Say Chris tops the public vote, Ali comes 2nd and Ricky 3rd, the scores will be Ali - 3 + 2 = 5 Ricky - 3 + 1 = 4 Chris - 2 + 3 = 5 Chris and Ali are tied on 5; because Chris scored higher in the public vote the dance-off would be Ali and Ricky. Which I suppose is more about how the new scoring system won't guarantee anyone ending up in the dance-off rather than answer the point of the thread....... |
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Unless hypothetically Ricky and Ali tie on scores, so the final leader board is
Ali - 3 Ricky - 3 Chris - 2 Say Chris tops the public vote, Ali comes 2nd and Ricky 3rd, the scores will be Ali - 3 + 2 = 5 Ricky - 3 + 1 = 4 Chris - 2 + 3 = 5 Chris and Ali are tied on 5; because Chris scored higher in the public vote the dance-off would be Ali and Ricky. Which I suppose is more about how the new scoring system won't guarantee anyone ending up in the dance-off rather than answer the point of the thread....... |
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I can't see any tied scores occuring after what happened last year tbh
and whoever is the public fave is not 'safe' until the final.
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The semi is where he can be eliminated even coming top of the public vote:
For eg if the judges order is Ali(3), Ricky(2) and Chris (1) but the public put them C(3) Ali(2) and R(1) both R and C are in the dance off and I think we know who will go. Is my maths wrong? (it often is) ![]() 14 + 2 = 16 13 + 3 = 16 12 + 4 = 16 11 + 5 = 16 10 + 6 = 16 9 + 7 = 16 8 + 8 =16 7 + 9 = 16 6 + 10 = 16 5 + 11 = 16 4 + 12 =16 3 +13 = 16 2 + 1 = 3 1 + 14 = 15 |
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Usually the public come through in the final and the joke act doesn't win.
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The following scenario puts the top placed dancer with the public in the dance-off (I think it may have happened last year with Austin):
Judges Couple A 4 points Couple B 3 points Couple C 2 points Couple D 1 point Public Couple D 4 points + 1 = 5 Couple B 3 points + 3 = 6 Couple A 2 points + 4 = 6 Couple C 1 point + 2 = 3 The couple placed first by the public will then dance off with the couple they placed bottom, but whom the judges placed higher. |
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Yeah it can definitely happen. The judges tendency to create ties makes it quite hard to work out all the different combos though. If the celeb topping the public vote is near the bottom of the leaderboard, then having 2 couples tie above them is a definite advantage; it used to be a disadvantage under the old system.
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Yeah it can definitely happen. The judges tendency to create ties makes it quite hard to work out all the different combos though. If the celeb topping the public vote is near the bottom of the leaderboard, then having 2 couples tie above them is a definite advantage; it used to be a disadvantage under the old system.
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So are we pretty clear Chris and Ola are topping the public vote - I am.
They just have so much more likeability than the other 3. |
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Usually the public come through in the final and the joke act doesn't win. I agree and can still remember holding my breath after watching Natasha & Brendan dancing against Chris and Hanna, waiting to hear that the public chose the dancer and not the joker in the end. He was a nice guy though!Quote:
Luckily there's no joke act this year.
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Indeed, if there are ties anywhere on the leaderboard the person with the most votes will go through.
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