I think it'd depend on the others.

I wish they'd scrap the dance off from the quarter finals (tbh I wouldn't miss it if they done away with it completely)

But then aren't we in the same position as we were last year with Tom?

No matter how much viewers vote, he couldn't have avoided the dance-off.

I thought the new scoring system was supposed to fix that?

I'm worried now!

Not necessarily

Judges vote

Ricky 3
Ali 2
Chris 1

Public vote
Chris 3
Ricky 2
Ali 1

If the one who tops the judges vote and comes 2nd in the public vote would see Chris in the bottom two.

I think I`ve worked that out right

No need to post a rude response. I am simply pointing out the system is weighted against him if the judges want a Ricky v Ali final. It seemed to me that many assumed the most popular with the public would get through to the final regardless.
I think that people should know this.

Well, no, because it depends on how much the other contestants get in this case. With Tom last year, there was no way whatsoever - in the scenario I used above, if Ricky and Ali's public scores were reversed, then Chris would be safe.

Thanks for doing the Maths for me folks!

I don't think a scenario should ever transpire where a couple cannot avoid the dance off.

Will they just not open Chris' phoneline if that situation arises?

No, you said that he can't win. It's just not true. We don't know yet whether Ali or Ricky will turn out to be more popular, or which one would top the leaderboard in the semi. Just have to wait and see.

On a personal note, I want Chris to win - I'd hate to think that someone who was gonna vote for him didn't because they read this stupid thread.

There can't be a situation where no matter what the public vote, one couple cannot get through - that's why if there are ties, the couple below the tie get the next number down, rather than the number they should be (ie, last year, Rachel and Lisa tied at 1, meaning Tom had 3. If that had happened under this system, Tom would have been on 2.).

I'm not sure I know what you mean, therefore, about not opening Chris' phoneline - he can still escape the dance off, even if it depends on the votes of the other couples as it does on his own.

To get Chris through the strategy is to give whoever is 2nd on the leaderboard a few votes as well and hope they come second in public vote to. This is the only way Chris is safe from the dance off. The caveat is the GB public is not renowned for tactical voting and the judges will have anticipated second in public vote and ordered leader board accordingly ( I believe)

Well Sid, there would really be no point of us wasting our money voting for Chris if he doesn't stand a chance avoiding the dance off.

If its a Ricky v Ali final I for one certainly won't be watching. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes

Yes he can!

Ricky CAN win
Ali CAN win
Laila (or however you spell it) CAN Win

Anyone can win maths aside the question is who will win.

I for one will be doing my best to make it happen even if it is pointless

The situation won't arise where it's impossible to save Chris. Last year the problem arose because there was no possible combination to keep Tom out of the dance-off. This year it is possible. Who ends up in the dance-off has always depended not only on a celeb's absolute ranking in the public vote, but also the relative popularity of the other celebs to each other.

Er, it's not the judges who are working for a Ricky V Ali final it's Ricky and Ali; this is a dance competition and they happen to be the two best dancers.

Sorry I'm being thick.

And I got an A Level in Maths as well!

I'm a bit brain-dead tonight.

This thread is nothing more than a sly way of getting people not to bother voting for Chris
If the OP wants to do that why not come out and fight like a man and just say it
This way is hiding behind a skirt .

Quite.


Aw, never mind Sid!

Has rigor mortis set in anywhere else?

and the dullest.

No to what ? Your response was rude and frankly still is.

If I may respond personally I am pointing out the scenario that is looming because I don't think it is fair to Chris, you seem to have missed this in my postings.

It is my belief with the rules at present he can't win ( maybe something can be done about that ) because the judges will engineer their favs to the final. This is my belief ( i fully accept it's not shared by all ) and it is a genuine one.

By all means carry on voting but I think a more effective strategy would be to start lobbying the production team now and by highlighting our awareness of the situation with threads such as this to show we're not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes.

Perhaps even do both ?

Well said!! I will be voting for Chris and Ola, and I hope all the rest of their supporters do too. There would be a big hoo-ha if the BBC let the Tom scenario happen again - so as I like to think positive - I will be voting COla!!

Not where it matters tiger

The day that happens, I'm topping myself.

I think you suggested earlier that the judges are privy to the public vote and could therefore use this to manipulate the dance off?

Am I right - if so how do you know this?

6 SCD finals how many has the best dancer won 2/3??

Not true, Im highlighting the issue in the hope that Cola fans can do something about it now before it's to late. TBH the thread title was written so as to get your attention asap!

Hehe, went through all the maths on this stuff couple weeks ago on other threads. The scoring isn't the same as the Tom situation last year, cos there is always mathematically a way that Chris can avoid a dance-off - but it depends on the positions the judges place Ricky and Ali relative to the positions the public vote.

When they ridiculously allow themselves to get down to a two couples final, the problem from a producer's POV is a different one ... you can't guarantee the public will at least get their favourite to a final under the current system. With three couples, you can.

So if semi-final comes and contestant Z is getting 60%+ of the public vote, for example, and the judges manage to score in a way that Z ends up in the dance-off and they kick him/her out, you just found yourself in the dumbest position the producer of any reality tv show can be in. Your judges just stuck two fingers up to your audience, said sorry you're not having your favourite in the final ... oh, and btw, tune in next week to watch the two people you like a lot less dance the final. Ratings disaster - not only for one series, but for future ones, as a good section of your audience comes to the realisation their vote does not necessarily influence anything. They can't even get their favourite to the final.

If they stick with two couples final, easiest way round this problem for production is to drop a DO for the semi-final ... judges scores + public scores then top two straight through will see the public favourite always come at least second.