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If Chris keeps topping the public vote, he'll progress through to the final no matter where he is on the table - won't he?
I wish they'd scrap the dance off from the quarter finals (tbh I wouldn't miss it if they done away with it completely) |
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Not necessarily, I don't think.
In this circumstance: (first column is judges) Ricky - 3 + 2 = 5 Ali - 2 + 1 = 3 Chris - 1 + 3 = 4 No matter how much viewers vote, he couldn't have avoided the dance-off. I thought the new scoring system was supposed to fix that? I'm worried now! |
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If Chris keeps topping the public vote, he'll progress through to the final no matter where he is on the table - won't he?
Judges vote Ricky 3 Ali 2 Chris 1 Public vote Chris 3 Ricky 2 Ali 1 If the one who tops the judges vote and comes 2nd in the public vote would see Chris in the bottom two. I think I`ve worked that out right
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Good of you to create such a pointless, negative thread, and be flat out wrong. All it needs is for the judges' order and the public order to be reversed, and Chris and Ola are in the final. For example:
Judges Ricky & Natalie - 3 points Ali & Brian - 2 points Chris & Ola - 1 point Public Chris & Ola - 3 point Ali & Brian - 2 points Ricky & Natalie - 1 points Net result - everyone has 4 points. In such a scenario, which is entirely plausible, Chris and Ola would go straight through to the final as the public vote takes precedence in a tie, and Ali and Ricky would be in the dance off. I think that people should know this. |
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But then aren't we in the same position as we were last year with Tom?
No matter how much viewers vote, he couldn't have avoided the dance-off. I thought the new scoring system was supposed to fix that? I'm worried now!
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Thanks for doing the Maths for me folks!
I don't think a scenario should ever transpire where a couple cannot avoid the dance off. Will they just not open Chris' phoneline if that situation arises? |
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No need to post a rude response. I am simply pointing out the system is weighted against him if the judges want a Ricky v Ali final. It seemed to me that many assumed the most popular with the public would get through to the final regardless.
I think that people should know this. On a personal note, I want Chris to win - I'd hate to think that someone who was gonna vote for him didn't because they read this stupid thread. |
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Thanks for doing the Maths for me folks!
I don't think a scenario should ever transpire where a couple cannot avoid the dance off. Will they just not open Chris' phoneline if that situation arises? I'm not sure I know what you mean, therefore, about not opening Chris' phoneline - he can still escape the dance off, even if it depends on the votes of the other couples as it does on his own. |
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But then aren't we in the same position as we were last year with Tom?
No matter how much viewers vote, he couldn't have avoided the dance-off. I thought the new scoring system was supposed to fix that? I'm worried now! |
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Thanks for doing the Maths for me folks!
I don't think a scenario should ever transpire where a couple cannot avoid the dance off. Will they just not open Chris' phoneline if that situation arises? If its a Ricky v Ali final I for one certainly won't be watching. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes
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Yes he can!
Ricky CAN win Ali CAN win Laila (or however you spell it) CAN Win Anyone can win maths aside the question is who will win. I for one will be doing my best to make it happen even if it is pointless |
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Thanks for doing the Maths for me folks!
I don't think a scenario should ever transpire where a couple cannot avoid the dance off. Will they just not open Chris' phoneline if that situation arises? |
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Er, it's not the judges who are working for a Ricky V Ali final it's Ricky and Ali; this is a dance competition and they happen to be the two best dancers.
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Sorry I'm being thick.
And I got an A Level in Maths as well! I'm a bit brain-dead tonight. |
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This thread is nothing more than a sly way of getting people not to bother voting for Chris
If the OP wants to do that why not come out and fight like a man and just say it This way is hiding behind a skirt . |
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Er, it's not the judges who are working for a Ricky V Ali final it's Ricky and Ali; this is a dance competition and they happen to be the two best dancers.
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Sorry I'm being thick.
And I got an A Level in Maths as well! I'm a bit brain-dead tonight.
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Sorry I'm being thick.
And I got an A Level in Maths as well! I'm a bit brain-dead tonight.
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Er, it's not the judges who are working for a Ricky V Ali final it's Ricky and Ali; this is a dance competition and they happen to be the two best dancers.
and the dullest. |
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No, you said that he can't win. It's just not true. We don't know yet whether Ali or Ricky will turn out to be more popular, or which one would top the leaderboard in the semi. Just have to wait and see.
On a personal note, I want Chris to win - I'd hate to think that someone who was gonna vote for him didn't because they read this stupid thread. If I may respond personally I am pointing out the scenario that is looming because I don't think it is fair to Chris, you seem to have missed this in my postings. It is my belief with the rules at present he can't win ( maybe something can be done about that ) because the judges will engineer their favs to the final. This is my belief ( i fully accept it's not shared by all ) and it is a genuine one. By all means carry on voting but I think a more effective strategy would be to start lobbying the production team now and by highlighting our awareness of the situation with threads such as this to show we're not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes. Perhaps even do both ? |
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This thread is nothing more than a sly way of getting people not to bother voting for Chris
If the OP wants to do that why not come out and fight like a man and just say it This way is hiding behind a skirt . - I will be voting COla!!
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Has rigor mortis set in anywhere else?
![]() ![]() The day that happens, I'm topping myself. |
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No to what ? Your response was rude and frankly still is.
If I may respond personally I am pointing out the scenario that is looming because I don't think it is fair to Chris, you seem to have missed this in my postings. It is my belief with the rules at present he can't win ( maybe something can be done about that ) because the judges will engineer their favs to the final. This is my belief ( i fully accept it's not shared by all ) and it is a genuine one. By all means carry on voting but I think a more effective strategy would be to start lobbying the production team now and by highlighting our awareness of the situation with threads such as this to show we're not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes. Perhaps even do both ? Am I right - if so how do you know this? |
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Er, it's not the judges who are working for a Ricky V Ali final it's Ricky and Ali; this is a dance competition and they happen to be the two best dancers.
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This thread is nothing more than a sly way of getting people not to bother voting for Chris
If the OP wants to do that why not come out and fight like a man and just say it This way is hiding behind a skirt . |
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Hehe, went through all the maths on this stuff couple weeks ago on other threads. The scoring isn't the same as the Tom situation last year, cos there is always mathematically a way that Chris can avoid a dance-off - but it depends on the positions the judges place Ricky and Ali relative to the positions the public vote.
When they ridiculously allow themselves to get down to a two couples final, the problem from a producer's POV is a different one ... you can't guarantee the public will at least get their favourite to a final under the current system. With three couples, you can. So if semi-final comes and contestant Z is getting 60%+ of the public vote, for example, and the judges manage to score in a way that Z ends up in the dance-off and they kick him/her out, you just found yourself in the dumbest position the producer of any reality tv show can be in. Your judges just stuck two fingers up to your audience, said sorry you're not having your favourite in the final ... oh, and btw, tune in next week to watch the two people you like a lot less dance the final. Ratings disaster - not only for one series, but for future ones, as a good section of your audience comes to the realisation their vote does not necessarily influence anything. They can't even get their favourite to the final. If they stick with two couples final, easiest way round this problem for production is to drop a DO for the semi-final ... judges scores + public scores then top two straight through will see the public favourite always come at least second. |
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