Then what was the point of the past 10 weeks?

It was clear from the outset that Ali & Ricky were the most able dancers.

We might as well have had the final two months ago.

Quite agree Sid. As I said earlier, I won't be watching the final if it is between Rickly and Ali.

Trust me they are; well at least those who vote in BB evictions are......It happens virtually every year and FM`s on the BB site often discuss tactical voting.....But your probably right about the public who vote in Strictly.I doubt the thought of casting a tactical vote crosses their minds.

It wasn't me who responded initially, that was Icarus17, although they happened to be right. People are getting angry because you're trying to create confusion and make Chris' fans not vote for him. I'm of the opinion that's quite a dishonest thing to do.
I'm not interested in whether or not you 'believe' that he can't win. It is a fact that it is mathematically possible for him to win.
I would prefer there was no dance-off at this stage of the competition. But you see what I'm doing there? I'm distinguishing fact from my opinion. You are entitled to hold an opinion about a subjective matter (the fairness of the dance-off), but not about an objective fact (whether or not it is possible for Chris to escape the dance-off). That is what people take issue with.

Thats a shame, you may miss out on some excellent dancing and amazing showdances in particular.

I'll watch because I enjoy the show regardless of who is dancing, but it will be my least favourite final to date.

How about if we all ignore Indigomoon's message of doom and do our best (if that is what we want) to get Chris and Ola to the final

I'm afraid I don't find either of them particularly exciting. I would rather see Laila in the final as at least she has improved over the weeks. Those two have just tread water and are the same every week so I can't imageine that they will be any different in the final.

However, each to his own. It would be pretty boring if we all agreed.

I would love to see Chris and Ola in the final as I think they would do a good show dance like Tom did last year because they have personality which I am afraid I don't find in Ali.

Aw, you might be surprised!

I'm hoping I will be...

Yeah lets

Well at least I won't be nervous!

I didn't have any nails left last year when Rachel & Vinny were in the final.

Oh absolutely, would be deadly dull on here if we all agreed.

I just think you should consider being more open-minded about the final. Sometimes even the couples we find dull can suprise us.

For example, I wasnt a Rachel fan and found a lot of her dances, whilst executed well, unexciting to the extreme.

However her AT is still one of my most re-watched dances!

Your response was indeed rude. I thank you for allowing me to have my own opinions very kind.
It is indeed mathematically possible for him to win but it depends on the judges not weighting the board against him ( I believe they will ).
You would prefer COLA fans to remain in blissful ignorance of the fact that public vote alone is less than likely to carry him to the final?
I want Cola fans to know their votes are likely wasted unless they start kicking up a fuss now.
If you were friendly to Chris's win you would see this more readily I feel and would not take issue with my approach.
Cola fans keep voting but also eye the tactical strategy and make your opinions known to the production team now not when it is to late.

You know if you were Laila or Anton and you came on here you'd be hard pressed not to think you'd gone to bed last night and woken up on the 13th Dec.

It would appear we now have the semi-final line up sorted and are well on our way to deciding just who will be the final 2 couples.

You are all completely right we don't need a public vote, we don't really need to have them dance at all over the next 2 weeks by the sounds of it either!

Well we've got a few more weeks to see what happens. I'll reserve judgement until the semis are over.

Did you not read what I just said? You called Icarus17 rude, I responded to your reply to them. Then you responded to me and said I was being rude again. I never said that my response wasn't rude, only that I was not the poster you originally replied to.


There is a difference between what is likely and what is possible. What I have taken issue with up until now is you presenting a lie about what is possible as a fact. What I will now take issue with is a separate issue: how do you know what is likely? What are you basing that on?
The system will not be changed because it is possible for Chris to avoid the dance-off. The only precedent for changing the system was last year and that was because it was impossible for Tom to avoid the dance-off. That is not the case this year, so the system will not be changed.



I vote for Chris. I want him to win. In fact, I stand to win 170 quid if he does, so I am biased in exactly the opposite way to what you imply. Putting that aside, again you did not read my post. I said that what I took issue with was your statement that it is not possible for Chris to win, which is not true. I take no issue with the discussion of how the system could be fairer, because that is a matter of opinion, not fact.

I have exercised admirable restraint in resisting the temptation to say something about stiffs.

oops - I said it.

Ok say if it was Ricky or Ali in Chris's position on YOUR leaderboard as it COULD conceivably be considering we havent seen them dance and we only can summise Chris' apparent popularity in the public in that he hasnt been in the dance off yet (nothing to say Ali or Ricky couldnt beat him in the public votes one week)...would you protest then?

Yes because I don't like the hypocrisy of asking for a public vote and then disregarding it.

I do not know why everyone assumes that Ricky is the judges favourite. I think he may have started like that but every week they have a go at him (apart from that incredable quickstep). Now although I like Ali very much I do feel from their attitude (not their marks) she is the judges favourite.

Even my son who dips in and out of SCD watched it again last night and said nothings changed why do the judges always have a go at Ricky when he is such a good dancer
(although he did enjoy Chris and Ali's dances as well)

Ok, so why isnt this thread entitled: None of them can win?

The scenario I have stated is conceivebly possible for all 3 presumed semi-finalists so really, you should be encouraging everyone to either stop voting for their faves/protesting to the BBC against the hypocrisy in general. Or perhaps you are going to create threads for Ricky fans and Ali fans too?

Im not saying you dont have a valid point, the potential scenario is unfair absolutely. But it is potentially unfair for al the finalists.

Plus, its a bit premature...we do have the quarter finals to contend with first and anyone could leave. 3 of the quarter finalists have been in the DO previously and Chris being one of the weaker dancers (based on his average score which is the worst out of the final 4) and has the Dreaded Samba...he could possibly leave next week.

There is, of course, another scenario.

Straight through next week are Chris and Laila, leaving the two bots to dance off. What would happen to the maths then, if you're calculating Chris, Laila and only one of R Whittle or Ali? [This is a genuine question, by the way - I can't do sums]

You continue to post a rude response,surely you would support a campaign for a fairer system. If you can't argue your point with good manners I will have to resort to the ignore button. I think it is fact that Chris can't win as things stand at the moment like Gethin , possibly Austin and there but by the grace of overkill Tom the judges will engineer the finalists they want. For me this is fact for you obviously not but stop being rude about the fact I don't agree with you please.

I'll leave the maths to someone else I'm useless but apart from anything the world might stop spinning on its axis if this happens!!

My thread is based on the premise that Chris has the popular vote and was aimed at COLA fans with whom he is obviously the most popular.