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The ONLY way Chris can make the final is if...
Lalia goes this week....
...then Ricky finishes top of the leaderboard NEXT week. This is why I think. Next week judges score Ricky 3 Ali 2 Chris 1 Public score Ricky 1 Ali 2 Chris 3 The public vote means it would be Ali and Ricky in the dance off. I assume Ali is more liked than Ricky so that is my feeling. However if Ali tops next weeks judges leaderboard (5) it would leave Ricky (3) and Chris (4) in the dance off.... withg Chris going... I think it is out of Chris's hands. He can only really hope. However if he does make the 2 way final I think he WILL win.. |
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Or...he could work hard and try to get a higher score from the judges, like he managed this week. Just a thought.
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Or...he could work hard and try to get a higher score from the judges, like he managed this week. Just a thought.
![]() ![]() He was second this week the waltz is a known high scorer, I think the samba will suit him so maybe he'll do well. |
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Or...he could work hard and try to get a higher score from the judges, like he managed this week. Just a thought.
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Lalia goes this week....
...then Ricky finishes top of the leaderboard NEXT week. This is why I think. Next week judges score Ricky 3 Ali 2 Chris 1 Public score Ricky 1 Ali 2 Chris 3 The public vote means it would be Ali and Ricky in the dance off. I assume Ali is more liked than Ricky so that is my feeling. However if Ali tops next weeks judges leaderboard (5) it would leave Ricky (3) and Chris (4) in the dance off.... withg Chris going... I think it is out of Chris's hands. He can only really hope. However if he does make the 2 way final I think he WILL win.. |
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Oh great so now Laila is some kind of sacrificial lamb in the Hollins to win at all costs masterplan?
![]() I actually quite like Chris and Ola but I'm going rapidly off them reading some threads on here! Can't we just leave it all up to fate and the voting public?
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Oh great so now Laila is some kind of sacrificial lamb in the Hollins to win at all costs masterplan?
![]() I actually quite like Chris and Ola but I'm going rapidly off them reading some threads on here! Can't we just leave it all up to fate and the voting public? ![]() Chris winning would be bad news.. he is ok but id say the 6th best dancer out of all of them.. and he grates on me so much!! I much prefer he goes this week to be honest!! |
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Vic, I DONT want him to win.. I want Ali and Brian to win all the way!! If it was a dance comp they would take it!! I just hope the rest of us back her too..
Chris winning would be bad news.. he is ok but id say the 6th best dancer out of all of them.. and he grates on me so much!! I much prefer he goes this week to be honest!! Ricky has got it a lot harder as male celeb yet is at the same level as Ali (if not better). Ali's latin just isn't up to scratch, and the shaky arm in ballroom is offputting. That said, Ricky keeps making mistakes which is his weak link. Showdance wise, I'd put my money on Ricky's being FAR more entertaining and spectacular than Ali's. |
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I wouldn't say it's the only way. Looking at how some people have 'guessed' public voting over recent weeks, it wouldn't be a complete surprise to see the public vote this Saturday look like:
Chris - 4 Laila - 3 Ali - 2 Ricky - 1 If the judges then score, entirely possibly: Ricky - 4 Ali - 3 Laila - 2 Chris -1 Everybody would have 5 points and because Laila and Chris came higher in the public vote, the DO would be Ali vs Ricky. That would take him to the semi, with a much better chance of making the final. |
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Or...he could work hard and try to get a higher score from the judges, like he managed this week. Just a thought.
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I am loving your maths!
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I wouldn't say it's the only way. Looking at how some people have 'guessed' public voting over recent weeks, it wouldn't be a complete surprise to see the public vote this Saturday look like:
Chris - 4 Laila - 3 Ali - 2 Ricky - 1 If the judges then score, entirely possibly: Ricky - 4 Ali - 3 Laila - 2 Chris -1 Everybody would have 5 points and because Laila and Chris came higher in the public vote, the DO would be Ali vs Ricky. That would take him to the semi, with a much better chance of making the final. |
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How much would I enjoy seeing the judges faced with this scenario!
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Though couldn't Laila be in the dance off with Ricky, and as she will be dancing her ballroom she could possbly be better than Ricky - especially of he makes one of his usual mistakes! It is not likely but it could happen!
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How much would I enjoy seeing the judges faced with this scenario!
If he comes above Laila with the judges, I think Laila will be almost certain to go. If she comes third with the judges though and Chris fans also tactically throw some votes her way, could just be down to which order the judges place Ricky and Ali. Get it wrong and they could easily end up with the big, non-appreciation thread stylee, Rapid vs Vapid dance-off. |
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I think I'm missing something here; if Chris & Ola are getting the most votes from the public, then they will be in the final regardless of how the judges score them.
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Or...he could work hard and try to get a higher score from the judges, like he managed this week. Just a thought.
Next you'll be suggesting that the judges award scores based on dance performance. |
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How much would I enjoy seeing the judges faced with this scenario!
Yeah. That'd be a laugh a minute, that one. |
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I think I'm missing something here; if Chris & Ola are getting the most votes from the public, then they will be in the final regardless of how the judges score them.
JUDGES SCORES X = 3 Y = 2 Z = 1 PUBLIC VOTE Z = 3 X = 2 Y = 1 Combined scores: X=5, Y=3, Z=4 X goes through to the final, and the public vote winner Z goes in to a dance-off with Y. Z came bottom with the judges first time around, so would be favourite to get kicked from the DO. |
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I think I'm missing something here; if Chris & Ola are getting the most votes from the public, then they will be in the final regardless of how the judges score them.
The DO brings with it the possibility of the televote winner being eliminated. |
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The judges can manipulate Chris out of it, if they know the order of public popularity (which they probably do). They can do the same with any of the contestants.
eg. Judges Ali 4 Laila 3 Ricky 2 Chris 1 Public Chris 4 + 1 = 5 Laila 3 + 3 = 6 Ali 2 + 4 = 6 Ricky 1 + 2 = 3 Dance off Ricky and Chris, with Chris going. |
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The judges can manipulate Chris out of it, if they know the order of public popularity (which they probably do). They can do the same with any of the contestants.
eg. Judges Ali 4 Laila 3 Ricky 2 Chris 1 Public Chris 4 + 1 = 5 Laila 3 + 3 = 6 Ali 2 + 4 = 6 Ricky 1 + 2 = 3 Dance off Ricky and Chris, with Chris going. |
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Oh great so now Laila is some kind of sacrificial lamb in the Hollins to win at all costs masterplan?
![]() I actually quite like Chris and Ola but I'm going rapidly off them reading some threads on here! Can't we just leave it all up to fate and the voting public? ![]() |
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Even 4th on the LB can go through
Whoever ends up bottom of the leaderboard has all these chances to avoid the Dance Off
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This thread pretty much sums up for me the whole problem with Strictly now. It's got very little to do with the dancing. Why have a 'try to save Chris' thread before he's even danced on Sat?
Personally, I don't believe there are any conspiracies to save or get rid of certain couples. I just think the judges see things from a different perspective (ie dancing). Yes I think they do perhaps over mark sometimes, but generally I think they've got the leaderboard positioning right most weeks. Can we just ditch the dancing next year? |
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If Chris is to go, it'll be in a 3-person semi-final next week, provided that it's Laila voted out this week, and the judges know who is higher in public voting, Ali or Ricky. This doesn't even have to the result of a BBC conspiracy, but of the judges' inside knowledge picked up over the weeks - or even via Arlene and her contacts at the Sun.
That person will then collect 3 judges' + 2 public points =5 Chris and the other one then have 4 & 3 points respectively, and it's all over for him bar the shouting. But on another thread it's being claimed that Chris got 40% more votes than anyone else last week. I think the BBC might be fearing a mass switch-off, and would therefore be prepared to let him reach the final, and so certainly win the title. All they have to do to achieve that is let everyone through this week and so create a 3-person final. All Chris has to do is amass more judges points than Laila next week, not too tall an order. |
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