Playstation 3 for BluRay

organum · 03-12-2009, 16:58

I have a PS3 which I use for BluRay as well as the usual other goodies like BBC iPlayer and games for the grandchildren.

Thing is the picture quality is not that brilliant. Definition seems fine (HDMI of course) but is very grainy.

Any other comments on PS3 BR quality?

This is only a problem on BR.

grahamlthompson · 03-12-2009, 17:21

It's not typical at all, PS3's normally compare very well in picture quality to even players that cost more than the console. Remember all BR's are not equal in quality some even have grain deliberetely added to give a filmic effect.

gemma-the-husky · 03-12-2009, 17:47

the blu-ray picture should be rock solid and superb

it might be the connectiion/settings

for bestresults, connect with an HDMI cable, and then check the video settings

martysport · 03-12-2009, 18:57

I borrowed my brothers PS3 to see what bluray was like, I wasn't that impressed :sleep: I since bought an LG BD370 and it seems alot more vivid

tvsizedoesmatter · 03-12-2009, 19:12

Excellent on mine.

What movies are we talking about, some have been very poor transfers.

Transformers, Dark Knight, Casino Royale, Q of Solace & Kingdom of Heaven for me are awesome quality.

titcaptain · 03-12-2009, 21:37

Closeup viewing of HD images will often look grainy compared to looking at dvd .
Grain is a normal part of the film and movies where grain has been completely removed often look soft at normal viewing distance.

The PS3 is an excellent Bluray player . I swapped mine for a multiregion Panasonic player which is equally as good although it does give better results when upscaling dvd's.

Some people may not like the naturally grainy look of many films on Bluray but for normal viewing the grain should not be noticeable.

Bluray gets closer than ever to the real look of film and you would not watch a film from just a few feet away in a cinema otherwise those images would look a bit cack too

Pugwash69 · 03-12-2009, 22:31

I'd use a film like 2001 for a reference of quality - fantastic transfer and very clean scenes. I love the output from the PS3 on my TV.

Lucky_drawes · 03-12-2009, 22:41

I agree with the others here, it could be a grainy movie. Try and rent Angels and Demons that has a stunning transfer.

fastest finger · 03-12-2009, 22:59

Check your TV settings too. Having sharpness set too high or using 'dynamic' picture settings can really exaggerate any film grain.

martysport · 04-12-2009, 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by titcaptain

Closeup viewing of HD images will often look grainy compared to looking at dvd .

So does VHS

If your DVD looks better than Bluray then throw the PS3 in the bin and get a 'proper' BD player

PS3, jack of all trades and master of none

If you want a good BD player then don't use a games console

titcaptain · 04-12-2009, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by martysport

So does VHS

If your DVD looks better than Bluray then throw the PS3 in the bin and get a 'proper' BD player

PS3, jack of all trades and master of none

If you want a good BD player then don't use a games console

Have you ever used a PS3.

Its Bluray pictures are first rate and only price has taken away its status as the Bluray player to beat.

Its HD pix were certainly no worse than either the Sony I tried or the Panasonic I have

martysport · 05-12-2009, 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by titcaptain

Have you ever used a PS3.

If you read the other posts you'll see I have

I'm not saying there are crap, just that they arn't as good as a proper stand alone unit. And given the fact that the early PS3's can't output bitstream sound a stand alone is the better option IMHO

If you wanted a good camera you would buy one, not a mobile phone

Dizagaox · 05-12-2009, 09:27

The PS3 is a 4-star BR player, it should look great.

Send it back is all that can really be advised.

Echo1 · 05-12-2009, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by martysport

If you read the other posts you'll see I have

I'm not saying there are crap, just that they arn't as good as a proper stand alone unit. And given the fact that the early PS3's can't output bitstream sound a stand alone is the better option IMHO

If you wanted a good camera you would buy one, not a mobile phone

I'm quite sure my 40GB (phat) PS3 outputs Bitstream, in fact, I have that option setup. Also the picture quality from Blu-ray, and upscale, is top-notch.

My mobile takes a stunning picture and is an excellent MP3s player. It plays games and has a torch on it to.

As for the PS3 being a master of none; I'd disagree. It's a great media system.

martysport · 05-12-2009, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wash

I'm quite sure my 40GB (phat) PS3 outputs Bitstream.

No it doesn't

only the newer slim ones do.

If you think it does proove it

frasera · 05-12-2009, 13:05

more important than the player...your tv:P

and as said not all blurays are equal.

read reviews

Echo1 · 05-12-2009, 13:08

Just checked. Says Bitstream output for either or both HDMI and Optical.

martysport · 05-12-2009, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wash

Just checked. Says Bitstream output for either or both HDMI and Optical.

Not HD formats

DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD

Echo1 · 05-12-2009, 13:58

Wow, I bet you're proud of yourself for being such a geek, aren't ya...

Just to add; who even bothers with HD audio. The average size living room is way too small to get the full advantage. My SD DD/DTS sounds awesome in my living room.

grahamlthompson · 05-12-2009, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by martysport

Not HD formats

DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD

It outputs them as full range PCM up to 7.1 channels afaik

martysport · 05-12-2009, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

It outputs them as full range PCM up to 7.1 channels afaik

That it does, some say its sound quality is the same too but a proper AV amp doing the decoding has the edge.

titcaptain · 05-12-2009, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by martysport

Not HD formats

DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD

The PS3 had an OTA update early in 2008 to enable full support for all audio formats even DTSHD-MA.

Obviously the HD formats are only available via the HDMI output

Unless your PS3 is connected to an HD audio capable amp you will not see any reference to HD audio formats anywhere onscreen as the PS3 (and standalones) will default to regular DD or DTS soundtracks which are often not even accessible from the disc menu - as seen on the new Star Trek movie Bluray

martysport · 06-12-2009, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wash

Just to add; who even bothers with HD audio.

lots of folk, I guess if your happy with mono sound and a B&W 10" tv why bother upgrading

Now go and play with your games machine

Echo1 · 06-12-2009, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by martysport

lots of folk, I guess if your happy with mono sound and a B&W 10" tv why bother upgrading

Now go and play with your games machine

I have a 37" HDTV with a 600w 5.1 DD/DTS sound system. It's most adequate and fills the room (if not the whole house, including neighbours') with top quality sound.

My games machine (as you call it) is awesome. It's a master of most trades.

McLovin85 · 06-12-2009, 13:05

Amazing quality on my PS3, wouldn't have it any other way. Play around with the settings on your PS3 like RGB or whatever it is and super white etc as well the settings on your TV.

It should not be grainy at all.

03-12-2009, 16:58	#1
organum Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 58	Playstation 3 for BluRay I have a PS3 which I use for BluRay as well as the usual other goodies like BBC iPlayer and games for the grandchildren. Thing is the picture quality is not that brilliant. Definition seems fine (HDMI of course) but is very grainy. Any other comments on PS3 BR quality? This is only a problem on BR.

03-12-2009, 17:21	#2
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	It's not typical at all, PS3's normally compare very well in picture quality to even players that cost more than the console. Remember all BR's are not equal in quality some even have grain deliberetely added to give a filmic effect.

03-12-2009, 17:47	#3
gemma-the-husky Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 17,858	the blu-ray picture should be rock solid and superb it might be the connectiion/settings for bestresults, connect with an HDMI cable, and then check the video settings

03-12-2009, 18:57	#4
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	I borrowed my brothers PS3 to see what bluray was like, I wasn't that impressed :sleep: I since bought an LG BD370 and it seems alot more vivid

03-12-2009, 19:12	#5
tvsizedoesmatter Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 144	Excellent on mine. What movies are we talking about, some have been very poor transfers. Transformers, Dark Knight, Casino Royale, Q of Solace & Kingdom of Heaven for me are awesome quality.

03-12-2009, 21:37	#6
titcaptain Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 408	Closeup viewing of HD images will often look grainy compared to looking at dvd . Grain is a normal part of the film and movies where grain has been completely removed often look soft at normal viewing distance. The PS3 is an excellent Bluray player . I swapped mine for a multiregion Panasonic player which is equally as good although it does give better results when upscaling dvd's. Some people may not like the naturally grainy look of many films on Bluray but for normal viewing the grain should not be noticeable. Bluray gets closer than ever to the real look of film and you would not watch a film from just a few feet away in a cinema otherwise those images would look a bit cack too

03-12-2009, 22:31	#7
Pugwash69 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Sticks Posts: 3,720	I'd use a film like 2001 for a reference of quality - fantastic transfer and very clean scenes. I love the output from the PS3 on my TV.

03-12-2009, 22:41	#8
Lucky_drawes Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,851	I agree with the others here, it could be a grainy movie. Try and rent Angels and Demons that has a stunning transfer.

03-12-2009, 22:59	#9
fastest finger Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Heart of England. Posts: 8,633	Check your TV settings too. Having sharpness set too high or using 'dynamic' picture settings can really exaggerate any film grain.

04-12-2009, 06:16	#10
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by titcaptain Closeup viewing of HD images will often look grainy compared to looking at dvd . So does VHS If your DVD looks better than Bluray then throw the PS3 in the bin and get a 'proper' BD player PS3, jack of all trades and master of none If you want a good BD player then don't use a games console

04-12-2009, 20:38	#11
titcaptain Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 408	Quote: Originally Posted by martysport So does VHS If your DVD looks better than Bluray then throw the PS3 in the bin and get a 'proper' BD player PS3, jack of all trades and master of none If you want a good BD player then don't use a games console Have you ever used a PS3. Its Bluray pictures are first rate and only price has taken away its status as the Bluray player to beat. Its HD pix were certainly no worse than either the Sony I tried or the Panasonic I have

05-12-2009, 08:54	#12
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by titcaptain Have you ever used a PS3. If you read the other posts you'll see I have I'm not saying there are crap, just that they arn't as good as a proper stand alone unit. And given the fact that the early PS3's can't output bitstream sound a stand alone is the better option IMHO If you wanted a good camera you would buy one, not a mobile phone

05-12-2009, 09:27	#13
Dizagaox Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,417	The PS3 is a 4-star BR player, it should look great. Send it back is all that can really be advised.

05-12-2009, 12:52	#14
Echo1 Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 5,864	Quote: Originally Posted by martysport If you read the other posts you'll see I have I'm not saying there are crap, just that they arn't as good as a proper stand alone unit. And given the fact that the early PS3's can't output bitstream sound a stand alone is the better option IMHO If you wanted a good camera you would buy one, not a mobile phone I'm quite sure my 40GB (phat) PS3 outputs Bitstream, in fact, I have that option setup. Also the picture quality from Blu-ray, and upscale, is top-notch. My mobile takes a stunning picture and is an excellent MP3s player. It plays games and has a torch on it to. As for the PS3 being a master of none; I'd disagree. It's a great media system.

05-12-2009, 13:00	#15
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by Wash I'm quite sure my 40GB (phat) PS3 outputs Bitstream. No it doesn't only the newer slim ones do. If you think it does proove it

05-12-2009, 13:05	#16
frasera Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,063	more important than the player...your tv:P and as said not all blurays are equal. read reviews

05-12-2009, 13:08	#17
Echo1 Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 5,864	Just checked. Says Bitstream output for either or both HDMI and Optical.

05-12-2009, 13:47	#18
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by Wash Just checked. Says Bitstream output for either or both HDMI and Optical. Not HD formats DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD

05-12-2009, 13:58	#19
Echo1 Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 5,864	Wow, I bet you're proud of yourself for being such a geek, aren't ya... Just to add; who even bothers with HD audio. The average size living room is way too small to get the full advantage. My SD DD/DTS sounds awesome in my living room.

05-12-2009, 14:12	#20
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by martysport Not HD formats DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD It outputs them as full range PCM up to 7.1 channels afaik

05-12-2009, 19:33	#21
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by grahamlthompson It outputs them as full range PCM up to 7.1 channels afaik That it does, some say its sound quality is the same too but a proper AV amp doing the decoding has the edge.

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05-12-2009, 21:01	#22
titcaptain Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 408	Quote: Originally Posted by martysport Not HD formats DTS-HD and Dolby TRUEHD The PS3 had an OTA update early in 2008 to enable full support for all audio formats even DTSHD-MA. Obviously the HD formats are only available via the HDMI output Unless your PS3 is connected to an HD audio capable amp you will not see any reference to HD audio formats anywhere onscreen as the PS3 (and standalones) will default to regular DD or DTS soundtracks which are often not even accessible from the disc menu - as seen on the new Star Trek movie Bluray

06-12-2009, 12:42	#23
martysport Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Exciled in France Posts: 363	Quote: Originally Posted by Wash Just to add; who even bothers with HD audio. lots of folk, I guess if your happy with mono sound and a B&W 10" tv why bother upgrading Now go and play with your games machine

06-12-2009, 13:00	#24
Echo1 Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 5,864	Quote: Originally Posted by martysport lots of folk, I guess if your happy with mono sound and a B&W 10" tv why bother upgrading Now go and play with your games machine I have a 37" HDTV with a 600w 5.1 DD/DTS sound system. It's most adequate and fills the room (if not the whole house, including neighbours') with top quality sound. My games machine (as you call it) is awesome. It's a master of most trades.

06-12-2009, 13:05	#25
McLovin85 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,849	Amazing quality on my PS3, wouldn't have it any other way. Play around with the settings on your PS3 like RGB or whatever it is and super white etc as well the settings on your TV. It should not be grainy at all.